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5/1-5/4 Red Sox vs. Blue Jays Series Thread
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Post by seamus on May 1, 2023 12:33:35 GMT -5
Median regular*? * = if you don't pronounce the R this is a drink at Dunkin actually. What’s a median egular? It's a so-so seasonal drink, but sometimes Uncle Ned spikes it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 1, 2023 12:41:01 GMT -5
lol, anyplace else you get a black coffee middle size except in Mass. where you get a coffee with cream and sugar.
For those from Mass, don't ask for a tonic when you are out of state.
It took me years to learn how to pronounce saw, war and drawer.
Let's be wicked good against the Jays.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on May 1, 2023 12:49:53 GMT -5
Just need a split. Losing 3 out of 4 is a disaster and a sweep would be catastrophic. They can't afford to go behind the Jays by 7.5 games. Plus assuming the other 3 win a few games during this series.
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Post by julyanmorley on May 1, 2023 13:11:48 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Sale was awesome yesterday, Schreiber continuing to pitch great, and Bernandino is putting up good scores
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2023 13:13:58 GMT -5
Just need a split. Losing 3 out of 4 is a disaster and a sweep would be catastrophic. They can't afford to go behind the Jays by 7.5 games. Plus assuming the other 3 win a few games during this series. Seeing how bad the Sox were last season against the Jays, a split is indeed necessary to help put to rest some of the chatter that they're terrible against AL East opponents.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2023 13:22:29 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Sale was awesome yesterday, Schreiber continuing to pitch great, and Bernandino is putting up good scores Really hope Cora can give Schreiber a couple days of rest. I feel like he's been using him a little too much, too early.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on May 1, 2023 13:30:13 GMT -5
Pitch modeling thinks Sale was awesome yesterday, Schreiber continuing to pitch great, and Bernandino is putting up good scores Really hope Cora can give Schreiber a couple days of rest. I feel like he's been using him a little too much, too early. Crawford and Martin should be go to guys tonight. I'm torn between hoping Houk succeeds as a starter and the fact he would be so valuable in the pen right now.
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Post by keninten on May 1, 2023 13:48:49 GMT -5
NYY have 14 games vs Tampa, Toronto & Baltimore from 5/5 to 5/25. Yankee fans are going to have such a happy month! It will be hard rooting for Toronto, Baltimore, and TB.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 1, 2023 14:03:41 GMT -5
Yankee fans are going to have such a happy month! It will be hard rooting for Toronto, Baltimore, and TB. No need, just root for the Skankees to lose.
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Post by notstarboard on May 1, 2023 14:06:51 GMT -5
Adam Duvall + His replacement Jarren Duran would lead the majors in WAR if they were one player. I also note that the Red Sox are tied for 3rd among all teams in B-Ref RF WAR. They're at 1.0 They're second behind Pittsburgh in OF WAR. The Red Sox are at 2.9, the Pirates at 3.0. They're in the top third at C, despite being low-budget at the position. They're toward the bottom at 1B, 2B, SS and of course SP. So, by that analysis you could make the argument that in terms of roster construction, they did a decent job at most positions. The weaknesses at 1B and 2B are due to events that were hard to predict - Story's injury and Casas' enormous struggles. OTOH, SS and SP are squarely on them. It's too early to start praising/knocking parts of the roster construction when successes and failures thus far are driven by injuries and SSS. Mondesi was not expected to be 60 day'd. Arroyo is on a bit of a hot streak now, but early season struggles still have him at a 62 wRC+, well below his career pace. Hernandez has been way worse than expected at SS and he was called into duty in the first place because plans A and B (Story and Mondesi) are on hold. There is little chance all of the Sox SP are going to regress this year. Paxton, Bello, Whitlock, and a number of relievers have missed time thus far. Chang had just started hitting his stride after issues getting into the country and a shortened Spring Training before he got injured. Duvall and Duran have combined to perform unsustainably well. Etc. I guarantee you in a few weeks time you'll feel differently about some of this comment. They are always going to hit. The bullpen would need to be decimated to be poor. There is always going to be good SP depth unless if the rotation gets decimated too. SP performance is going to be the key, and while that's still a question mark, there are plenty of reasons for optimism on that front. Sale has been rusty to start the year, for obvious reasons given the time he's missed, but he seems to be trending up. The odds of Bello continuing to have a 33% HR/FB ratio and a .417 BABIP going forward are extremely low. Kluber's command was back in his last start and he did great against a quality Baltimore lineup. Paxton just dominated in his last rehab start. And, of course, the defense should be better long term when guys like Mondesi, Story, and Duvall come back, which should improve the numbers for all pitchers.
I'm feeling very good about where we're at right now. The roster should improve over time in the likely event that injury luck doesn't worsen, and the schedule should also get easier; per tankathon.com, the other 4 AL East teams are in the top 5 for hardest remaining schedules while the Sox are at #12. CF is the only offensive position that stands to regress, while a couple others are likely to positively regress, 1B and 2B in particular. Yoshida looks like he's shaken off his injuries and/or adjusted to MLB pitching. And we're over .500 at 15-14! Gotta love it.
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Post by incandenza on May 1, 2023 14:25:27 GMT -5
I also note that the Red Sox are tied for 3rd among all teams in B-Ref RF WAR. They're at 1.0 They're second behind Pittsburgh in OF WAR. The Red Sox are at 2.9, the Pirates at 3.0. They're in the top third at C, despite being low-budget at the position. They're toward the bottom at 1B, 2B, SS and of course SP. So, by that analysis you could make the argument that in terms of roster construction, they did a decent job at most positions. The weaknesses at 1B and 2B are due to events that were hard to predict - Story's injury and Casas' enormous struggles. OTOH, SS and SP are squarely on them. It's too early to start praising/knocking parts of the roster construction when successes and failures thus far are driven by injuries and SSS. Mondesi was not expected to be 60 day'd. Arroyo is on a bit of a hot streak now, but early season struggles still have him at a 62 wRC+, well below his career pace. Hernandez has been way worse than expected at SS and he was called into duty in the first place because plans A and B (Story and Mondesi) are on hold. There is little chance all of the Sox SP are going to regress this year. Paxton, Bello, Whitlock, and a number of relievers have missed time thus far. Chang had just started hitting his stride after issues getting into the country and a shortened Spring Training before he got injured. Duvall and Duran have combined to perform unsustainably well. Etc. I guarantee you in a few weeks time you'll feel differently about some of this comment. They are always going to hit. The bullpen would need to be decimated to be poor. There is always going to be good SP depth unless if the rotation gets decimated too. SP performance is going to be the key, and while that's still a question mark, there are plenty of reasons for optimism on that front. Sale has been rusty to start the year, for obvious reasons given the time he's missed, but he seems to be trending up. The odds of Bello continuing to have a 33% HR/FB ratio and a .417 BABIP going forward are extremely low. Kluber's command was back in his last start and he did great against a quality Baltimore lineup. Paxton just dominated in his last rehab start. And, of course, the defense should be better long term when guys like Mondesi, Story, and Duvall come back, which should improve the numbers for all pitchers.
I'm feeling very good about where we're at right now. The roster should improve over time in the likely event that injury luck doesn't worsen, and the schedule should also get easier; per tankathon.com, the other 4 AL East teams are in the top 5 for hardest remaining schedules while the Sox are at #12. CF is the only offensive position that stands to regress, while a couple others are likely to positively regress, 1B and 2B in particular. Yoshida looks like he's shaken off his injuries and/or adjusted to MLB pitching. And we're over .500 at 15-14! Gotta love it. Mark this date: May 28th. Between now and then they play TOR, PHI, ATL, STL, SEA, SDP, LAA, and ARI. It'll be a third of the way through the season and the only legitimately bad team they'll have faced will have been the Tigers. If they're a game or two over .500 at that point it'll be a really good sign.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 1, 2023 14:28:30 GMT -5
Big Night. I like the fact that we are likely considered the underdogs. The ballpark, and the thread, should be rockin'. That is how it darn well should be.
LFG !!!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 1, 2023 14:34:25 GMT -5
Just need a split. Losing 3 out of 4 is a disaster and a sweep would be catastrophic. They can't afford to go behind the Jays by 7.5 games. Plus assuming the other 3 win a few games during this series. No, most assuredly. We need a GD sweep ! That is the mentality needed right here, right now. !!
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Post by keninten on May 1, 2023 14:39:18 GMT -5
It will be hard rooting for Toronto, Baltimore, and TB. No need, just root for the Skankees to lose. I guess I can hope for lots of errors and HBPs.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2023 14:41:25 GMT -5
Really hope Cora can give Schreiber a couple days of rest. I feel like he's been using him a little too much, too early. Crawford and Martin should be go to guys tonight. I'm torn between hoping Houk succeeds as a starter and the fact he would be so valuable in the pen right now. Crawford may need one more day of rest seeing he went on Friday. Winck is probably the go to option if they have the lead/if it's close.
And I feel you on Houck. I'd like to see how his next couple of starts shake out and where Paxton is at after his next start to see where the team is at.
EDIT: a note this could change very quickly if Jansen has to miss any significant amount of time.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2023 14:43:49 GMT -5
I also note that the Red Sox are tied for 3rd among all teams in B-Ref RF WAR. They're at 1.0 They're second behind Pittsburgh in OF WAR. The Red Sox are at 2.9, the Pirates at 3.0. They're in the top third at C, despite being low-budget at the position. They're toward the bottom at 1B, 2B, SS and of course SP. So, by that analysis you could make the argument that in terms of roster construction, they did a decent job at most positions. The weaknesses at 1B and 2B are due to events that were hard to predict - Story's injury and Casas' enormous struggles. OTOH, SS and SP are squarely on them. It's too early to start praising/knocking parts of the roster construction when successes and failures thus far are driven by injuries and SSS. Mondesi was not expected to be 60 day'd. Arroyo is on a bit of a hot streak now, but early season struggles still have him at a 62 wRC+, well below his career pace. Hernandez has been way worse than expected at SS and he was called into duty in the first place because plans A and B (Story and Mondesi) are on hold. There is little chance all of the Sox SP are going to regress this year. Paxton, Bello, Whitlock, and a number of relievers have missed time thus far. Chang had just started hitting his stride after issues getting into the country and a shortened Spring Training before he got injured. Duvall and Duran have combined to perform unsustainably well. Etc. I guarantee you in a few weeks time you'll feel differently about some of this comment. They are always going to hit. The bullpen would need to be decimated to be poor. There is always going to be good SP depth unless if the rotation gets decimated too. SP performance is going to be the key, and while that's still a question mark, there are plenty of reasons for optimism on that front. Sale has been rusty to start the year, for obvious reasons given the time he's missed, but he seems to be trending up. The odds of Bello continuing to have a 33% HR/FB ratio and a .417 BABIP going forward are extremely low. Kluber's command was back in his last start and he did great against a quality Baltimore lineup. Paxton just dominated in his last rehab start. And, of course, the defense should be better long term when guys like Mondesi, Story, and Duvall come back, which should improve the numbers for all pitchers.
I'm feeling very good about where we're at right now. The roster should improve over time in the likely event that injury luck doesn't worsen, and the schedule should also get easier; per tankathon.com, the other 4 AL East teams are in the top 5 for hardest remaining schedules while the Sox are at #12. CF is the only offensive position that stands to regress, while a couple others are likely to positively regress, 1B and 2B in particular. Yoshida looks like he's shaken off his injuries and/or adjusted to MLB pitching. And we're over .500 at 15-14! Gotta love it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a general expectation that Mondesi would start on the 60 day IL? Also, I'm concerned I have seen zero updates about his rehab progress since the beginning of the season...
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Post by kwodes on May 1, 2023 14:58:31 GMT -5
Really hope Cora can give Schreiber a couple days of rest. I feel like he's been using him a little too much, too early. Crawford and Martin should be go to guys tonight. I'm torn between hoping Houk succeeds as a starter and the fact he would be so valuable in the pen right now. I'm surprised Martin didn't close the game yesterday. Get him into a low leverage situation to ease his way back.
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Post by notstarboard on May 1, 2023 15:03:31 GMT -5
It's too early to start praising/knocking parts of the roster construction when successes and failures thus far are driven by injuries and SSS. Mondesi was not expected to be 60 day'd. Arroyo is on a bit of a hot streak now, but early season struggles still have him at a 62 wRC+, well below his career pace. Hernandez has been way worse than expected at SS and he was called into duty in the first place because plans A and B (Story and Mondesi) are on hold. There is little chance all of the Sox SP are going to regress this year. Paxton, Bello, Whitlock, and a number of relievers have missed time thus far. Chang had just started hitting his stride after issues getting into the country and a shortened Spring Training before he got injured. Duvall and Duran have combined to perform unsustainably well. Etc. I guarantee you in a few weeks time you'll feel differently about some of this comment. They are always going to hit. The bullpen would need to be decimated to be poor. There is always going to be good SP depth unless if the rotation gets decimated too. SP performance is going to be the key, and while that's still a question mark, there are plenty of reasons for optimism on that front. Sale has been rusty to start the year, for obvious reasons given the time he's missed, but he seems to be trending up. The odds of Bello continuing to have a 33% HR/FB ratio and a .417 BABIP going forward are extremely low. Kluber's command was back in his last start and he did great against a quality Baltimore lineup. Paxton just dominated in his last rehab start. And, of course, the defense should be better long term when guys like Mondesi, Story, and Duvall come back, which should improve the numbers for all pitchers.
I'm feeling very good about where we're at right now. The roster should improve over time in the likely event that injury luck doesn't worsen, and the schedule should also get easier; per tankathon.com, the other 4 AL East teams are in the top 5 for hardest remaining schedules while the Sox are at #12. CF is the only offensive position that stands to regress, while a couple others are likely to positively regress, 1B and 2B in particular. Yoshida looks like he's shaken off his injuries and/or adjusted to MLB pitching. And we're over .500 at 15-14! Gotta love it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a general expectation that Mondesi would start on the 60 day IL? Also, I'm concerned I have seen zero updates about his rehab progress since the beginning of the season... I don't think so, no. It wasn't even thrown out as an option on the SP podcast when discussing how guys like Tapia might find a spot on the 40 man. Here was the quote from Bloom after he was acquired:
"Our expectation is that he may be a little delayed to start the season, but opening day is still a possibility. With an athlete like this, I wouldn’t rule it out. ... We are expecting him, whether he’s on time or not to contribute for the bulk of the year.”
I agree that it's weird there haven't been any updates on his recovery process, though. That plus the 60-day status makes me wonder if he had some sort of setback.
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Post by bensbrothersbrother on May 1, 2023 15:32:27 GMT -5
Sorry to intrude on gamely thread but I couldn't find a help forum: I broke my laptop & I forget my password and can't get a recovery email. I've tried via User Name: BenOgliviesbrother and my email on the account. A couple of times. No dice.
Can one of you fine moderators assist?
Back to your regularly scheduled hashing & thrashing.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on May 1, 2023 15:54:25 GMT -5
Something of note is that the Jays pen is stretched pretty thin after a couple of extra inning games. If the Sox can get starters out by the 5th or 6th innings, their chances are good.
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Post by Guidas on May 1, 2023 16:15:53 GMT -5
Arroyo's been hot the last few days so...Let's sit him down.
Verdugo RF
Yoshida LF
Turner DH
Devers 3B
Duran CF
Hernández SS
Casas 1B
Valdez 2B
McGuire C
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Post by kwodes on May 1, 2023 16:20:17 GMT -5
Arroyo's been hot the last few days so...Let's sit him down. Verdugo RF Yoshida LF Turner DH Devers 3B Duran CF Hernández SS Casas 1B Valdez 2B McGuire C all lefties + turner and Kiké to face berrios
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 1, 2023 16:32:38 GMT -5
lol, anyplace else you get a black coffee middle size except in Mass. where you get a coffee with cream and sugar. For those from Mass, don't ask for a tonic when you are out of state. It took me years to learn how to pronounce saw, war and drawer. Let's be wicked good against the Jays. Native Rhode Islander here. From "Patuckut". A few years ago my wife needed a coffee - went to DD, almost gagged - like sweet lightly coffee milk. Ugh!
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Post by incandenza on May 1, 2023 16:36:37 GMT -5
Arroyo's been hot the last few days so...Let's sit him down. Verdugo RF Yoshida LF Turner DH Devers 3B Duran CF Hernández SS Casas 1B Valdez 2B McGuire C all lefties + turner and Kiké to face berrios Good looking offense, horrifying defense.
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Post by shagworthy on May 1, 2023 16:39:33 GMT -5
Which version of Kluber do we get tonight...
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