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6/2-6/5 Red Sox vs. Rays Series Thread
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Post by ramireja on Jun 2, 2023 10:08:18 GMT -5
6/2 Red Sox (RHP Garrett Whitlock, 2-2, 5.14, 21.0 IP, 15K:3BB) vs. Rays (LHP Tyler Glasnow, 0-0, 6.23, 4.1 IP, 8K:1BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/3 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 3-4, 5.30, 52.2 IP, 50K:17BB) vs. Rays (LHP Josh Fleming, 3-1, 4.62, 48.2 IP, 24K:19BB) 1:10 pm ET, ESPN+, NESN/WEEI 6/3 Red Sox (TBD) vs. Rays (TBD) 6:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/4 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 3-3, 3.89, 39.1 IP, 41K:14BB) vs. Rays (RHP Taj Bradley, 3-2, 3.60, 30.0 IP, 42K:5BB) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2023: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 2, 2023 10:52:29 GMT -5
Messing with any semblance of a sleep schedule.
If Sale is out of the rotation for any significant time, I want Crawford as the replacement starter.
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Post by rhswanzey on Jun 2, 2023 11:03:30 GMT -5
Not sure why there are now scheduled doubleheaders, but the bullpen is already totally wrecked heading into four games in three days:
Wincowski, Martin and Pivetta all worked previous two games. AC did go to Wincowski for a third day in a row during the Toronto series, but obviously he generally avoids it. If you use any of them tonight, they are down for the next three games. How do you get through Saturday with 1-3 of them down for both games?
Garza threw 19 last night with one day’s rest after 41. He’s down. Even though he’s pitched well, he has to be swapped out for any fresh arm.
Sherriff threw 31 and could go tonight after two day’s rest, but he’s the other easily optioned arm. Since he’s available, maybe you get as much as you can out of him tonight, before swapping him out for a Saturday arm - Kluber?
Rodriguez will have had two days off after 36; available, but no length and belongs in mop up right now.
Crawford threw 24 and had last night off. He is going to have to pitch a back-to-back beginning tonight, or Sat/Sun.
Available tonight:
Bernardino/Ort (Garza optioned)
Crawford
Sherriff
Rodriguez
Jansen
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 2, 2023 12:35:20 GMT -5
I’m heading to all 4 this weekend. Weather looks a bit sketchy. Don’t care as long as Sox win
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Post by incandenza on Jun 2, 2023 12:47:01 GMT -5
Not sure why there are now scheduled doubleheaders, but the bullpen is already totally wrecked heading into four games in three days: Wincowski, Martin and Pivetta all worked previous two games. AC did go to Wincowski for a third day in a row during the Toronto series, but obviously he generally avoids it. If you use any of them tonight, they are down for the next three games. How do you get through Saturday with 1-3 of them down for both games? Garza threw 19 last night with one day’s rest after 41. He’s down. Even though he’s pitched well, he has to be swapped out for any fresh arm. Sherriff threw 31 and could go tonight after two day’s rest, but he’s the other easily optioned arm. Since he’s available, maybe you get as much as you can out of him tonight, before swapping him out for a Saturday arm - Kluber? Rodriguez will have had two days off after 36; available, but no length and belongs in mop up right now. Crawford threw 24 and had last night off. He is going to have to pitch a back-to-back beginning tonight, or Sat/Sun. Available tonight: Bernardino/Ort (Garza optioned) Crawford Sherriff Rodriguez Jansen It's nice that the Rays get the day off before the series with the scheduled doubleheader but the Red Sox do not. |
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 2, 2023 12:55:34 GMT -5
Not sure why there are now scheduled doubleheaders, but the bullpen is already totally wrecked heading into four games in three days: Wincowski, Martin and Pivetta all worked previous two games. AC did go to Wincowski for a third day in a row during the Toronto series, but obviously he generally avoids it. If you use any of them tonight, they are down for the next three games. How do you get through Saturday with 1-3 of them down for both games? Garza threw 19 last night with one day’s rest after 41. He’s down. Even though he’s pitched well, he has to be swapped out for any fresh arm. Sherriff threw 31 and could go tonight after two day’s rest, but he’s the other easily optioned arm. Since he’s available, maybe you get as much as you can out of him tonight, before swapping him out for a Saturday arm - Kluber? Rodriguez will have had two days off after 36; available, but no length and belongs in mop up right now. Crawford threw 24 and had last night off. He is going to have to pitch a back-to-back beginning tonight, or Sat/Sun. Available tonight: Bernardino/Ort (Garza optioned) Crawford Sherriff Rodriguez Jansen It's nice that the Rays get the day off before the series with the scheduled doubleheader but the Red Sox do not. Is there still an extra roster spot for game 2? And who the hell is going to start game 2?? A lot of presure on Whitlock and especially houck to make some innings |
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Post by cba82 on Jun 2, 2023 13:00:50 GMT -5
“Not sure why there are now scheduled doubleheaders” — A change this year, in conjunction with the new un-unbalanced schedule (play every team in the MLB at least one series, resulting in more longer-distance travel); the benefit of the doubleheaders is more days off sprinkled throughout the season, which the players wanted.
Believe teams are still allowed to add one pitcher to the roster for doubleheaders.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 2, 2023 13:06:32 GMT -5
The Rays are 27th in team pitching fWAR since May 1st. (Red Sox are 23rd.) Though that's distorted a bit by their position players giving up 10 runs or something in that Toronto game.
And helpfully they're not making us face their two top starters, McClanahan and Eflin. Glasnow's making just his second start back after TJ; I'd speculate that he might be a bit wobbly except that that would guarantee he'd throw a no-hitter.
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Post by notstarboard on Jun 2, 2023 13:54:28 GMT -5
Looking forward to our revenge sweep. Tampa has exceeded reasonable expectations for too long. Time to restore balance.
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Post by rhswanzey on Jun 2, 2023 14:11:36 GMT -5
Totally blanked on the extra roster spot for doubleheaders (facepalm). Thank you for the clarification on DH’s. I wasn’t sure if that was something we were getting, but that most teams were avoiding. It just suddenly became unfortunate timing.
So with the extra roster spot, if they want to, they can get all three of Ort, Bernardino and Kluber up by the end of Saturday, while still getting to use Sherriff tonight before farming him tomorrow. They can avoid a decision with Sale even though it sounds, at a bare minimum, unlikely that he’s making his next start.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2023 14:18:52 GMT -5
Turner 1B, Casas DH in the lineup is interesting
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jun 2, 2023 15:23:03 GMT -5
Hopefully the Sox don't need a scoop out of their first basemen late with the lead considering Turner has botched 2 already.
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Post by greenmonster on Jun 2, 2023 15:31:05 GMT -5
Turner 1B, Casas DH in the lineup is interesting I was curious when I saw this as well....could Casas be nursing something or they just trying to get JT more time in the field? |
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jun 2, 2023 15:39:38 GMT -5
Turner 1B, Casas DH in the lineup is interesting I was curious when I saw this as well....could Casas be nursing something or they just trying to get JT more time in the field? I was wondering if they did this to keep a 1B in the game in case they need to PH Refsnyder for Casas at some point. That is probably me over thinking it though. We may see a lot more of Turner at 1B anyway when Duval is back. |
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Post by rhswanzey on Jun 2, 2023 16:09:38 GMT -5
I think you nailed it - Tampa currently carries four lefties in the pen - Poche, old friend Diekman, older friend Beeks, and someone apparently named Joe La Sorsa.
Wow, and Trevor Kelley is still kicking around. This seems on the light side for a Tampa pen.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 2, 2023 16:18:04 GMT -5
I think you nailed it - Tampa currently carries four lefties in the pen - Poche, old friend Diekman, older friend Beeks, and someone apparently named Joe La Sorsa. Wow, and Trevor Kelley is still kicking around. This seems on the light side for a Tampa pen. Their bullpen is 29th in MLB by fWAR, 22nd by ERA. Not a very good pitching team! |
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Post by incandenza on Jun 2, 2023 16:26:10 GMT -5
On the other hand... here is the Rays' lineup, but just their wRC+ numbers:
179 138 100 162 161 140 148 112 135
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jun 2, 2023 16:34:49 GMT -5
Not looking good for tonight. Going to come down hard around 8.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2023 16:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 2, 2023 16:46:00 GMT -5
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Post by Montana Lemonious-Craig on Jun 2, 2023 17:03:24 GMT -5
Sale to IL with shoulder inflammation. *Sigh* Kluber returning to the rotation for the time being 😕
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jun 2, 2023 17:07:44 GMT -5
Sale to IL with shoulder inflammation. *Sigh* Kluber returning to the rotation for the time being 😕 Can't they keep him on paterinty for another 3 months? |
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Post by greenmonster on Jun 2, 2023 17:17:20 GMT -5
Sale to IL with shoulder inflammation. *Sigh* Kluber returning to the rotation for the time being 😕 Can't they keep him on paterinty for another 3 months? Where I work they do |
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 2, 2023 17:25:40 GMT -5
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Post by notstarboard on Jun 2, 2023 17:28:40 GMT -5
Well that sounds awful. When's the last time this team hasn't had at least one stud injured? 2018? |
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