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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 25, 2023 16:07:19 GMT -5
JWH has already saved more than enough cash this year. I would have rather one good prospect than 2 meh guys. But I guess its good that he's never going to play SS again. It's not about saving money for Henry, it's about having additional room under the threshold to add more at the deadline Which they already do. Unless you're expecting something crazy like Ohtani.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 25, 2023 16:07:21 GMT -5
At least his deal was only for this year there was no options, player options nothing else attached
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Post by remmartin34 on Jul 25, 2023 16:08:03 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd rather no return and the Dodgers take on his entire salary, than us paying it down to take back a back end prospect that needs to be added to the 40 in December Edit: Welp Sox kind of need to find more relievers to add to their offseason 40 Do they? Article I was reading today was saying that there is going to be a major crunch with the amount of players Bloom covets that are Rule 5 eligible... Feel like it has to be no-name, older relievers that have major league experience that they can use in a jam the rest of the season, that they don't mind letting go of in the offseason.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 25, 2023 16:08:30 GMT -5
It was clear to me that they would trade either Kiké or Duval, and I stand by my conclusion that IF Kiké could clear his head and be other than a black hole offensively going forward, he would be the guy you keep.
They apparently believe he can't. I'm fine with that; it's perfectly credible, and I like Duval and look forward to another hot streak.
And yeah, I suggested that Duval would have trouble getting his swing back while playing just against LHP, but the very good announcing team at ESPN mentioned how advanced pitching machines have become, to the point that rehab stints are no longer a must. If Duval indeed has a defined role now -- more or less strict platoon with Duran -- I would hope that he could work on recovering his sweet swing that way and in extended BP.
The other big advantage doing it this way is that you are unquestionably better off should you have --- I'm sorry, I have to say this! -- a major injury to one of the three outfield starters.
Finally, if Kiké hits better in LA, that doesn't mean he could have done it here.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jul 25, 2023 16:08:32 GMT -5
It's not about saving money for Henry, it's about having additional room under the threshold to add more at the deadline Which they already do. Unless you're expecting something crazy like Ohtani. They have like skin of their teeth room. If they want to add a middle infielder, a starter, and maybe a reliever, but stay under, that'll limit your options
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 25, 2023 16:09:31 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if the Sox didnt get two Justin Garza level relievers for Hernandez. Anything more valuable than that cannot be expected.
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Post by remmartin34 on Jul 25, 2023 16:09:53 GMT -5
Which they already do. Unless you're expecting something crazy like Ohtani. They have like skin of their teeth room. If they want to add a middle infielder, a starter, and maybe a reliever, but stay under, that'll limit your options Yuppppp ^^^^^
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Post by cdj on Jul 25, 2023 16:11:00 GMT -5
Manifesting Jake Pilarski
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 25, 2023 16:11:53 GMT -5
Which they already do. Unless you're expecting something crazy like Ohtani. They have like skin of their teeth room. If they want to add a middle infielder, a starter, and maybe a reliever, but stay under, that'll limit your options Who are you expecting them to add? They'll find a starter cheap and move on. The infielder is Story. Takes care of that.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 25, 2023 16:12:24 GMT -5
Another side effect of this is that I feel like you’d have to keep Turner around next year. No one pops out to me as veteran leadership material w/ Kiké now gone.
I also hope this trade doesn’t bog down the vibes in the clubhouse ala 2022.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jul 25, 2023 16:12:55 GMT -5
They have like skin of their teeth room. If they want to add a middle infielder, a starter, and maybe a reliever, but stay under, that'll limit your options Who are you expecting them to add? They'll find a starter cheap and move on. The infielder is Story. Takes care of that. Just going by Bloom's comments the other day. No idea who the targets are yet, the market hasn't been determined
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Post by passedball on Jul 25, 2023 16:15:34 GMT -5
I laughed.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 25, 2023 16:18:20 GMT -5
Two names.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 25, 2023 16:21:36 GMT -5
Thanx for the time Kiké. Especially that playoff run. Good luck back with the Dodgers. Hope it wasnât to late to screw the season
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 25, 2023 16:22:40 GMT -5
Robertson and Hudson are the only relievers they have in AAA playing any better than the JAGs we have at Worcester.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 25, 2023 16:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 25, 2023 16:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 25, 2023 16:23:15 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if the Sox didnt get two Justin Garza level relievers for Hernandez. Anything more valuable than that cannot be expected. Yeah, they can't be guys that need to be protected from Rule 5.
So, yeah, these are Brennan Bernardino (as of last year) types.
(The point being that they may have something in mind for one or both guys, something creative that the Dodgers haven't tried. One in 20 odds they get a player of any sort, but that's better than zero. And always interesting!)
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 25, 2023 16:24:20 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 25, 2023 16:24:21 GMT -5
Thank you to the SP staff for adding the auto-accent for Kiké's name during his tenure here, not demonizing the guy for not doing it in the tweet or anything but man it just looks so much worse without it lol
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 25, 2023 16:24:39 GMT -5
Robertson and Hudson are the only relievers they have in AAA playing any better than the JAGs we have at Worcester. Doubt the return will be that good. Honestly probably looking at jags in AA that need to be added in November
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Post by mparker on Jul 25, 2023 16:25:05 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 25, 2023 16:25:13 GMT -5
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 25, 2023 16:27:31 GMT -5
Pitched well in a brutal league. Would be better than expected.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 25, 2023 16:27:59 GMT -5
JWH has already saved more than enough cash this year. I would have rather one good prospect than 2 meh guys. But I guess its good that he's never going to play SS again. It's not about saving money for Henry, it's about having additional room under the threshold to add more at the deadline To be fair, I don't think everyone is in agreement that we should be buying at the deadline, period. Full stop.
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