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Post by ramireja on Aug 1, 2023 20:11:14 GMT -5
Side note: Did the Red Sox trade their only HS pitching prospect left in the system? Almost. ERC still here though. Do you count Aaron Perry or starters only?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 1, 2023 20:11:20 GMT -5
Side note: Did the Red Sox trade their only HS pitching prospect left in the system? ERC (thought I could see where you could split hairs there)
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 1, 2023 20:16:30 GMT -5
Side note: Did the Red Sox trade their only HS pitching prospect left in the system? Almost. ERC still here though. Do you count Aaron Perry or starters only? I'll count Perry and other true HS pitchers. Wouldn't count Cutter Coffey or a similar dual prospect. Thanks for the quick response. Would be wild if the Sox didn't have a single HS pitcher in the system.
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Post by Jimmy on Aug 1, 2023 20:19:18 GMT -5
Is there logic to assigning him to AAA today despite thinking he’s going to replace one of the MIFs on the current roster?
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 1, 2023 20:22:03 GMT -5
Is there logic to assigning him to AAA today despite thinking he’s going to replace one of the MIFs on the current roster? He's a good player having a tough year. I'd imagine its hard to change teams in the middle of the season and probably harder when you are struggling. The Sox can give him a chance to reset for a week or two and bring him up after he's acclimated.
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Post by redsox56 on Aug 1, 2023 20:25:50 GMT -5
Brewers fans not very happy overall about this one It feels like a pure salary dump (the rest of the 2 million owed). Hard to be a Milwaukee fan a lot of times.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Aug 1, 2023 20:26:55 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline has Bradley Blalock as #15 in the Brewers updated ranking.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 1, 2023 20:30:41 GMT -5
MLB Pipeline has Bradley Blalock as #15 in the Brewers updated ranking. Honestly shows the strength of the system currently.
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 1, 2023 21:10:17 GMT -5
I feel like I’d cut Arroyo and bring him up. Gotta see what they got here
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 1, 2023 21:59:33 GMT -5
We’re assembling the Team Mexico stars here (Verdugo, Duran, and now Urias), great potential!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2023 22:39:52 GMT -5
I'd guess that Bloom is thinking that Urias could bridge the gap to Nick Yorke.
I'd say Arroyo's days are numbered. He is simply not going to be an every day 2b. Apparently Valdez's inability to play 2b will keep him as a AAAA player.
So Urias will get the next crack because he can stay healthy, play a decent 2b, and has potential with the bat, but the fact is he has never even managed to hit .250 in a season which is odd because he was a .300 hitter consistently in the minors although this year he's only hitting in the .230s in AAA.
He has power and can draw walks to keep his OBP respectable. But if he cant get his hit tool working he wont be able to keep his job. He can get away with hitting .240, although with his minor league track record you'd think he could hit .270, but it hasn't happened.
Probably worth the gamble but it's possible Blalock could turn into a useful reliever or something while Urias flounders and the deal doesnt work, but in probability Blalock wouldnt be protected on the 40 man roster anyways.
Its worth a shot. It could work?
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Post by cdj on Aug 1, 2023 22:50:30 GMT -5
I'd guess that Bloom is thinking that Urias could bridge the gap to Nick Yorke. I'd say Arroyo's days are numbered. He is simply not going to be an every day 2b. Apparently Valdez's inability to play 2b will keep him as a AAAA player. So Urias will get the next crack because he can stay healthy, play a decent 2b, and has potential with the bat, but the fact is he has never even managed to hit .250 in a season which is odd because he was a .300 hitter consistently in the minors although this year he's only hitting in the .230s in AAA. He has power and can draw walks to keep his OBP respectable. But if he cant get his hit tool working he wont be able to keep his job. He can get away with hitting .240, although with his minor league track record you'd think he could hit .270, but it hasn't happened. Probably worth the gamble but it's possible Blalock could turn into a useful reliever or something while Urias flounders and the deal doesnt work, but in probability Blalock wouldnt be protected on the 40 man roster anyways. Its worth a shot. It could work? I could see a Valdez/Urias platoon, Urias has significant splits in his career Vs RHP- .221/.324/.369 Vs LHP- .275/.352/.444
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2023 23:02:17 GMT -5
I'd guess that Bloom is thinking that Urias could bridge the gap to Nick Yorke. I'd say Arroyo's days are numbered. He is simply not going to be an every day 2b. Apparently Valdez's inability to play 2b will keep him as a AAAA player. So Urias will get the next crack because he can stay healthy, play a decent 2b, and has potential with the bat, but the fact is he has never even managed to hit .250 in a season which is odd because he was a .300 hitter consistently in the minors although this year he's only hitting in the .230s in AAA. He has power and can draw walks to keep his OBP respectable. But if he cant get his hit tool working he wont be able to keep his job. He can get away with hitting .240, although with his minor league track record you'd think he could hit .270, but it hasn't happened. Probably worth the gamble but it's possible Blalock could turn into a useful reliever or something while Urias flounders and the deal doesnt work, but in probability Blalock wouldnt be protected on the 40 man roster anyways. Its worth a shot. It could work? I could see a Valdez/Urias platoon, Urias has significant splits in his career Vs RHP- .221/.324/.369 Vs LHP- .275/.352/.444 It would be nice if Valdez can play a passable 2b. I dont think he was passable when he was up.
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Post by cdj on Aug 1, 2023 23:12:55 GMT -5
I could see a Valdez/Urias platoon, Urias has significant splits in his career Vs RHP- .221/.324/.369 Vs LHP- .275/.352/.444 It would be nice if Valdez can play a passable 2b. I dont think he was passable when he was up. He was the worst defensive 2B I had ever seen when he first came up. By the end of his stint I found him merely bad rather than embarrassing. He was making the majority of the basic plays he needed to make. If he can do that I think he can stick as a platoon player/LHH bench bat.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 1, 2023 23:15:26 GMT -5
I'd guess that Bloom is thinking that Urias could bridge the gap to Nick Yorke. I'd say Arroyo's days are numbered. He is simply not going to be an every day 2b. Apparently Valdez's inability to play 2b will keep him as a AAAA player. So Urias will get the next crack because he can stay healthy, play a decent 2b, and has potential with the bat, but the fact is he has never even managed to hit .250 in a season which is odd because he was a .300 hitter consistently in the minors although this year he's only hitting in the .230s in AAA. He has power and can draw walks to keep his OBP respectable. But if he cant get his hit tool working he wont be able to keep his job. He can get away with hitting .240, although with his minor league track record you'd think he could hit .270, but it hasn't happened. Probably worth the gamble but it's possible Blalock could turn into a useful reliever or something while Urias flounders and the deal doesnt work, but in probability Blalock wouldnt be protected on the 40 man roster anyways. Its worth a shot. It could work? this is assuming Yorke can beat Mayer to the ML. I like the Valdez/Urias split idea. I love Valdez swing.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2023 23:17:46 GMT -5
I'd guess that Bloom is thinking that Urias could bridge the gap to Nick Yorke. I'd say Arroyo's days are numbered. He is simply not going to be an every day 2b. Apparently Valdez's inability to play 2b will keep him as a AAAA player. So Urias will get the next crack because he can stay healthy, play a decent 2b, and has potential with the bat, but the fact is he has never even managed to hit .250 in a season which is odd because he was a .300 hitter consistently in the minors although this year he's only hitting in the .230s in AAA. He has power and can draw walks to keep his OBP respectable. But if he cant get his hit tool working he wont be able to keep his job. He can get away with hitting .240, although with his minor league track record you'd think he could hit .270, but it hasn't happened. Probably worth the gamble but it's possible Blalock could turn into a useful reliever or something while Urias flounders and the deal doesnt work, but in probability Blalock wouldnt be protected on the 40 man roster anyways. Its worth a shot. It could work? this is assuming Yorke can beat Mayer to the ML. I like the Valdez/Urias split idea. I love Valdez swing. Right now Yorke is out hitting Mayer in AA. I'd say they're both expected to be knocking in the door come 2025 so Urias is probably plan A to get them to 2025. As an aside I d figure it's likely when Mayer is ready Story probably moves to 2b. You have to figure either Yorke or Story winds up getting dealt. Not sure how they co-exist on the same roster unless Story winds up at 3b with Devers DHing and Yoshida goes back to LF. I think that scenario is less likely because I think by 2025 Duran is the LF with Rafaela in CF as I expect that to be the alignment beginning next season.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 1, 2023 23:31:05 GMT -5
this is assuming Yorke can beat Mayer to the ML. I like the Valdez/Urias split idea. I love Valdez swing. Right now Yorke is out hitting Mayer in AA. I'd say they're both expected to be knocking in the door come 2025 so Urias is probably plan A to get them to 2025. As an aside I d figure it's likely when Mayer is ready Story probably moves to 2b. You have to figure either Yorke or Story winds up getting dealt. Not sure how they co-exist on the same roster unless Story winds up at 3b with Devers DHing and Yoshida goes back to LF. I think that scenario is less likely because I think by 2025 Duran is the LF with Rafaela in CF as I expect that to be the alignment beginning next season. yes but a platoon will build some value in Valdez who can then be traded for something. I could see Yorke at DH and backing up Story at 2nd. Story backing up Mayer at SS for a nice middle infield trifecta when they are both ready. That being said starting 2024 I want Valdez/Urias platoon. Reyes/Chang fight for backup SS
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 1, 2023 23:44:53 GMT -5
Urias/Valdez platoon is pretty tough since neither of them can play SS or the OF. You'd need your last bench spot to cover SS and CF and I don't know where we would possibly find a player that could pull that off.
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Post by keninten on Aug 1, 2023 23:45:48 GMT -5
Urias/Valdez platoon is pretty tough since neither of them can play SS or the OF. You'd need your last bench spot to cover SS and CF and I don't know where we would possibly find a player that could pull that off. Rafaela
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Post by soxfaninnj on Aug 1, 2023 23:52:38 GMT -5
Urias/Valdez platoon is pretty tough since neither of them can play SS or the OF. You'd need your last bench spot to cover SS and CF and I don't know where we would possibly find a player that could pull that off. Kiké is a free agent lol
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Post by bettsonmookie on Aug 1, 2023 23:54:41 GMT -5
Right now Yorke is out hitting Mayer in AA. I'd say they're both expected to be knocking in the door come 2025 so Urias is probably plan A to get them to 2025. As an aside I d figure it's likely when Mayer is ready Story probably moves to 2b. You have to figure either Yorke or Story winds up getting dealt. Not sure how they co-exist on the same roster unless Story winds up at 3b with Devers DHing and Yoshida goes back to LF. I think that scenario is less likely because I think by 2025 Duran is the LF with Rafaela in CF as I expect that to be the alignment beginning next season. yes but a platoon will build some value in Valdez who can then be traded for something. I could see Yorke at DH and backing up Story at 2nd. Story backing up Mayer at SS for a nice middle infield trifecta when they are both ready. That being said starting 2024 I want Valdez/Urias platoon. Reyes/Chang fight for backup SS *IF* Valdez becomes passable enough in the field to hold down the strong side of a platoon, the whole conversation around him will change, just like it has with Duran, who is currently overcoming his big *IF* with contact/K-rates, etc. I don't think it happens in Valdez case (would love to be wrong), but if it does, I think he becomes too valuable to flip. He is a RHP masher and cost-controllable thru age 31. IMO - Urias indicates a lack of confidence in Arroyo & Valdez as worthy bridge players to Mayer/Yorke in '25.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 1, 2023 23:58:38 GMT -5
While a Valdez/Urias platoon could work I expect Urias sooner or later will get first crack at holding the 2b job on a regular basis and will only lose it if he doesn't hit enough.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Aug 2, 2023 1:10:51 GMT -5
Brewers fans not very happy overall about this one The only thing that makes me leery on the deal is what do the Brewers know that the Sox don't? On its face a 2nd baseman who is just 26 and prior to this season had back to back 2 fWAR seasons with some pop in his bat would seem to be worth more than Blalock. I still like it for the Sox but just wonder why the Brewers would deal him. Not like he's making a lot. Think Benintendi trade in reverse.
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Post by cdj on Aug 2, 2023 1:59:07 GMT -5
Urias/Valdez platoon is pretty tough since neither of them can play SS or the OF. You'd need your last bench spot to cover SS and CF and I don't know where we would possibly find a player that could pull that off. Worcester, MA
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Post by cmax on Aug 2, 2023 6:20:25 GMT -5
David Hamilton is also a potential complement. If you think of how fun Duran is on the bases (and how much he improved from last year to this year), remember Hamilton steals 2x as much and would cause havoc for opponents on the basepaths. Hamilton significantly improved from last year to this year and got a taste of the show this year, which might help him get over the hump even if he wasn't quite ready yet to shine in the MLB in 2023. Hamilton and Refaela can add so much fun athleticism and dynamism to this team. Meantime, Urias seems like a solid bet to be a legit 2-3 WAR second baseman with 20 HR pop and the clutch gene...
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