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Post by bettsonmookie on Aug 20, 2023 9:59:39 GMT -5
Another interesting wrinkle to Urias career stats:
The 2022 WAR (3.1) was achieved in only 119 games. If you adjust that rate across his game total from 2021 (150 games), you end up with a result of 3.9~4.0 WAR across a 'fully healthy season,' at age 25 no less.
I am excited to see what he can do at 27/28 as he plays for his next contract and bridges to the Mayer/Yorke era. If he shines the rest of the way, it also serves to make the off-season to-do list even more concise and clear: Add. Premium. Starting. Pitching.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 21, 2023 2:21:02 GMT -5
I was reading that he’s a pull hitter so he’s one of these built for Fenway types. I’m not sure how true that is I didn’t do any research but does anyone know how true that is? I really love Valdez swing I was praying he would get it together and he the guy next year but something tells me if Urias gets healthy and back to himself that Yorke is getting traded for pitching and he’s our guys for the foreseeable future, maybe until Mikey is ready. I know that’s a long ways out but he’s young and we need all the RHH we can get at this point. He also can play a good 3rd base if Devers goes down and can spell him while he’s healthy if Turner leaves which I pray to god every night that he doesn’t.
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Post by jimoh on Aug 21, 2023 5:48:29 GMT -5
I was reading that he’s a pull hitter so he’s one of these built for Fenway types. I’m not sure how true that is I didn’t do any research but does anyone know how true that is? I really love Valdez swing I was praying he would get it together and he the guy next year but something tells me if Urias gets healthy and back to himself that Yorke is getting traded for pitching and he’s our guys for the foreseeable future, maybe until Mikey is ready. I know that’s a long ways out but he’s young and we need all the RHH we can get at this point. He also can play a good 3rd base if Devers goes down and can spell him while he’s healthy if Turner leaves which I pray to god every night that he doesn’t. Is he a pull hitter well suited for Fenway? Go back one page and look for an Aug 2 post by Scotty Smalls linking to his spray chart.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 22, 2023 1:03:26 GMT -5
I was reading that he’s a pull hitter so he’s one of these built for Fenway types. I’m not sure how true that is I didn’t do any research but does anyone know how true that is? I really love Valdez swing I was praying he would get it together and he the guy next year but something tells me if Urias gets healthy and back to himself that Yorke is getting traded for pitching and he’s our guys for the foreseeable future, maybe until Mikey is ready. I know that’s a long ways out but he’s young and we need all the RHH we can get at this point. He also can play a good 3rd base if Devers goes down and can spell him while he’s healthy if Turner leaves which I pray to god every night that he doesn’t. Is he a pull hitter well suited fur Fenway? Go back one page and look for an Aug 2 post by Scotty Smalls linking to his spray chart. I was reading it on twitter. I didn't see that post but thank you!
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Post by badfishnbc on Aug 22, 2023 9:50:09 GMT -5
Eh, he seems a little one-note for me. Like, does the guy do anything other than hit grand slams?
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Post by mobaz on Aug 22, 2023 13:04:44 GMT -5
Eh, he seems a little one-note for me. Like, does the guy do anything other than hit grand slams? Remember when Tim McCarver liked to insist a walk was better than a solo home run? It's like that!
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 26, 2023 21:51:31 GMT -5
Urias played almost as much SS as 2B last year (he was their primary third baseman). He has over 1100 MLB innings at SS. He could probably handle a primary backup role behind (finally) a near everyday starter, no? He's -15 OAA in those 1100 innings. For context, Kiké was -13 in 484 innings this year. Urias is so bad at SS that he's almost half as bad as Kiké!
Only -2 in 1275 innings at 3B, though, so he has some value in backing up Devers.
You were right - if they prefer Devers over Urias at SS, there’s no scenario where they will roll out a non emergency type roster where Urias is the primary backup at SS, even in the event they expect Story to start 145+ games.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 27, 2023 9:24:50 GMT -5
I think people are reading way too much into playing Devers at SS - that decision was 100% about where would Devers be more comfortable/less likely to hurt himself. If they felt SS was the better bet (not unreasonable due to the amount of time spent playing in a similar spot on the field when in a shift) compared to 2B, that's where he was going to play. Obviously can't prove this, but I see it as very doubtful that decision happened because they felt Urias was unplayable at SS and then scrambled to find the best defensive alternative. There was also the option of leaving Urias at 2B, leaving Devers at 3B, and giving up the DH to put Story at SS, which they ended up doing the next inning anyway 😁 It's also worth considering that the Sox probably don't prefer Devers to Urias in a vacuum at SS. But since Urias is an average defender at 3B, he's actually a big upgrade on Devers there. So, all putting Devers at SS says is that the delta between Urias at 3B vs Devers at 3B outweighs the delta between Urias at SS vs Devers at SS.
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Post by dcb26 on Aug 27, 2023 9:31:45 GMT -5
I think people are reading way too much into playing Devers at SS - that decision was 100% about where would Devers be more comfortable/less likely to hurt himself. If they felt SS was the better bet (not unreasonable due to the amount of time spent playing in a similar spot on the field when in a shift) compared to 2B, that's where he was going to play. Obviously can't prove this, but I see it as very doubtful that decision happened because they felt Urias was unplayable at SS and then scrambled to find the best defensive alternative. There was also the option of leaving Urias at 2B, leaving Devers at 3B, and giving up the DH to put Story at SS, which they ended up doing the next inning anyway 😁 It's also worth considering that the Sox probably don't prefer Devers to Urias in a vacuum at SS. But since Urias is an average defender at 3B, he's actually a big upgrade on Devers there. So, all putting Devers at SS says is that the delta between Urias at 3B vs Devers at 3B outweighs the delta between Urias at SS vs Devers at SS. Yup, I deleted my post as soon as I posted it because I completely misremembered how that transpired. Was hoping someone wouldn't see and respond in that amount of time Yeah, I STILL don't think its as simple as "Devers is a better SS than Urias" but it certainly does raise questions
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