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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 22, 2024 8:11:10 GMT -5
4/23 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 3-1, 1.35, 26.2 IP, 28K:2BB) @ Guardians (RHP Ben Lively, 0-1, 3.60, 5.0 IP, 7K:1BB) 6:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/24 Red Sox (TBD) @ Guardians (RHP Carlos Carrasco, 1-1, 3.44, 18.1 IP, 16K:12BB) 6:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/25 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 3-1, 3.04, 26.2 IP, 26K:7BB) @ Guardians (RHP Triston McKenzie, 2-2, 5.00, 18.0 IP, 11K:15BB) 1:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by trotman on Apr 22, 2024 8:43:09 GMT -5
Hopefully the offense can take care of Lively and Carrasco this time around. Bello needs to wake up 12 hours before his daytime start, wear horse blinders and/or borrow Pablo's eclipse glasses to trick himself into believing it's nighttime.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 22, 2024 8:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Apr 22, 2024 9:44:39 GMT -5
Cleveland doesn’t beat themselves but we should be able to get some runs off their pitching this series
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Post by jbur521 on Apr 22, 2024 9:54:33 GMT -5
Casas down...where is CJ Cron?
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Post by sibbysisti on Apr 22, 2024 10:05:26 GMT -5
Free Agent. Working out; waiting for a contract.
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Post by art on Apr 22, 2024 11:13:24 GMT -5
Criswell Wednesday?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 22, 2024 12:58:26 GMT -5
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 22, 2024 13:17:40 GMT -5
If Casas is going to be out for a long time I think I’d like to see Brandon Belt signed. It is odd that he isn’t in general though so maybe there’s something weird there
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Post by itinerantherb on Apr 22, 2024 13:27:27 GMT -5
If Casas is going to be out for a long time I think I’d like to see Brandon Belt signed. It is odd that he isn’t in general though so maybe there’s something weird there I wondered about this, too. He just turned 36 and had a solid, Turner-level 23 season. You'd think he'd have a ML contract if he wanted one.
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Post by trotman on Apr 22, 2024 13:30:29 GMT -5
If Casas is going to be out for a long time I think I’d like to see Brandon Belt signed. It is odd that he isn’t in general though so maybe there’s something weird there I wondered about this, too. He just turned 36 and had a solid, Turner-level 23 season. You'd think he'd have a ML contract if he wanted one. Yeah if it is a long-term injury that could happen. Belt like Cron will need some time to time to get ready. On the short term side we're probably looking at some funky split duties with some of our AAA depth like Westbrook or Kavadas
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Post by nomar on Apr 22, 2024 13:34:58 GMT -5
If Casas is going to be out for a long time I think I’d like to see Brandon Belt signed. It is odd that he isn’t in general though so maybe there’s something weird there Yeah I was thinking the other day that it was pretty surprising Houston and Boston haven’t been fighting for him because he seemingly makes a ton of sense for both. Cron is really meh. I do think he’s better than Kavadas, but the Kavadas stan in me would rather see him work counts, strike out a ton, and hit the occasional bomb.
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Post by itinerantherb on Apr 22, 2024 13:42:16 GMT -5
I wondered about this, too. He just turned 36 and had a solid, Turner-level 23 season. You'd think he'd have a ML contract if he wanted one. Yeah if it is a long-term injury that could happen. Belt like Cron will need some time to time to get ready. On the short term side we're probably looking at some funky split duties with some of our AAA depth like Westbrook or Kavadas Both seem pretty unlikely. Neither are on the 40. Kavadas is kind of a left-handed Dalbec who can't play 3B and is worse at 1B and on the bases. Westbrook could play 3B but with Grissom on the way back, I doubt it's worth the spot on the 40 man.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 22, 2024 13:48:41 GMT -5
I wonder how much the ramp up period for Belt/Cron is as much a question mark for those players as it is for the team. As of yet we don't know how long Casas will be out for. Do guys like that want to be in the minor leagues for a few weeks ramping up, finally join the Red Sox, only to then get cut after a month when Casas comes back?
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Apr 22, 2024 14:13:35 GMT -5
Sox had all winter to get rid of Dalbec but chose not to. They even protected him from Rule 5. I know he has been terrible, but I think this is the scenario they have been keeping him around for and he will get plenty more opportunity to come around.
Kavadas can been added with a simple roster move and seems to have adjusted well to AAA. It would mean sending down Valez or Hamilton but I'd like to see him get a shot.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 22, 2024 14:21:48 GMT -5
Sox had all winter to get rid of Dalbec but chose not to. They even protected him from Rule 5. I know he has been terrible, but I think this is the scenario they have been keeping him around for and he will get plenty more opportunity to come around. Kavadas can been added with a simple roster move and seems to have adjusted well to AAA. It would mean sending down Valez or Hamilton but I'd like to see him get a shot. They didn't protect him from the Rule 5 this offseason he was already on the 40 man, that choice was made years ago. They would have had to DFA him to open a spot (as opposed to choosing not to add him). Kavadas isn't as simple as you made it either, he needs to be added to the 40 man to get a shot, which means they need to remove another player. I think Mata or Walter to the 60 day IL is possible, or maybe they would DFA Uwasawa or Guitierrez. I doubt they're ready to DFA any of the position players right now. This also poses somewhat of an issue for signing Bell given the ramp up period he'd need, they might need him to be willing to accept a minor league deal so they can keep him off the 40 until he's ready to play, but not sure if he'd want to do that.
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Post by rhswanzey on Apr 22, 2024 15:26:04 GMT -5
Can MILB make the weekly off day Tue instead of Mon since MLB off days rarely occur on Tuesdays
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 22, 2024 15:38:04 GMT -5
Can MILB make the weekly off day Tue instead of Mon since MLB off days rarely occur on Tuesdays My initial instinct as to why this isn't feasible is that the off days being synced up makes call-up logistics a lot easier.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 22, 2024 15:39:45 GMT -5
Brandon Belt K%:
2019: 20.6% 2020: 20.1% 2021: 27.0% 2022: 27.2% 2023: 34.9%
His walk rate is great (career 12.4%, 15.1% last year) and his xwOBA is above average, but that K rate is pretty scary for a guy who is now 36 and will have to ramp up.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Apr 22, 2024 15:40:43 GMT -5
Sox had all winter to get rid of Dalbec but chose not to. They even protected him from Rule 5. I know he has been terrible, but I think this is the scenario they have been keeping him around for and he will get plenty more opportunity to come around. Kavadas can been added with a simple roster move and seems to have adjusted well to AAA. It would mean sending down Valez or Hamilton but I'd like to see him get a shot. They didn't protect him from the Rule 5 this offseason he was already on the 40 man, that choice was made years ago. They would have had to DFA him to open a spot (as opposed to choosing not to add him). Kavadas isn't as simple as you made it either, he needs to be added to the 40 man to get a shot, which means they need to remove another player. I think Mata or Walter to the 60 day IL is possible, or maybe they would DFA Uwasawa or Guitierrez. I doubt they're ready to DFA any of the position players right now. This also poses somewhat of an issue for signing Bell given the ramp up period he'd need, they might need him to be willing to accept a minor league deal so they can keep him off the 40 until he's ready to play, but not sure if he'd want to do that. I fully understand the logistics involved in both cases, but the bottom line does not change. The Sox have purposely held on to Dalbec and Kavadas could be added to the active roster today if they wished.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 22, 2024 15:51:45 GMT -5
Brandon Belt K%: 2019: 20.6% 2020: 20.1% 2021: 27.0% 2022: 27.2% 2023: 34.9% His walk rate is great (career 12.4%, 15.1% last year) and his xwOBA is above average, but that K rate is pretty scary for a guy who is now 36 and will have to ramp up. Counterpoint: Pablo Reyes
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Post by itinerantherb on Apr 22, 2024 16:49:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Ref could manage 1B as well or better than Kavadas, and probably contribute more on offense. Once O'Neill comes back, he's a 5th outfielder and thus more or less available for that role.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 22, 2024 16:53:23 GMT -5
Brandon Belt K%: 2019: 20.6% 2020: 20.1% 2021: 27.0% 2022: 27.2% 2023: 34.9% His walk rate is great (career 12.4%, 15.1% last year) and his xwOBA is above average, but that K rate is pretty scary for a guy who is now 36 and will have to ramp up. Counterpoint: Pablo Reyes You dont mess with Pablo, Pablo is the glue keeping this team together. I think Belt or Cron would gladly take a MiLB contract if theyve been staying in game shape. Same goes for Andrus and Segura, because a minor league deal beats the couch.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 22, 2024 18:22:00 GMT -5
Brandon Belt K%: 2019: 20.6% 2020: 20.1% 2021: 27.0% 2022: 27.2% 2023: 34.9% His walk rate is great (career 12.4%, 15.1% last year) and his xwOBA is above average, but that K rate is pretty scary for a guy who is now 36 and will have to ramp up. Counterpoint: Pablo Reyes Counter-counterpoint: Rob Refsnyder. Reyes shouldn't be playing 1B so long as Refsnyder and Dalbec are on the roster. Height is important at 1B.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 22, 2024 20:18:22 GMT -5
Counterpoint: Pablo Reyes Counter-counterpoint: Rob Refsnyder. Reyes shouldn't be playing 1B so long as Refsnyder and Dalbec are on the roster. Height is important at 1B.
I don’t disagree, but all signs point to that not being in the cards.
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