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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 23, 2024 14:59:24 GMT -5
Wouldn’t hate it if they scooped him up.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 23, 2024 15:00:31 GMT -5
I’d really like to know what the hell is going on w/ Masa. I mean if he was hurt, wouldn’t we have heard something by now?
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 23, 2024 15:02:06 GMT -5
Many here seem MUCH higher on Kavadas than I am, but maybe I'm missing something. To those who want to see him called up, what about his Dalbecian strike out numbers in Portland and Worcester make you think he'll be better than Dalbec? I can see the plate discipline, but that's got to be more than offset by worse base running and defense. It’s the defense. He’s not good on that end of the ball. Would be happy if the team picked up Cooper or even Votto if he opts out on May 1st.
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Post by nomar on Apr 23, 2024 15:02:52 GMT -5
Cooper would be great compared to our options. Go get him please
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Post by briam on Apr 23, 2024 15:02:55 GMT -5
Yeah something isn't adding up there. Yoshi hits a clutch homerun on 4/20 in Pittsburgh and then sits vs Martin Perez (L) and Lively (R) tonight? You'd have to think it's some sort of injury or other issue, right? Milliken on the "Section 10" podcast was ludicrously suggesting he might get DFA'd soon, to which I would say: A) it's April 23rd, and B) EVERYONE IS HURT WHO ARE YOU REPLACING HIM WITH, and C) again, it's April 23rd. Are people completely unaware he's been one of the team's hottest hitters lately? 162 wRC+ in his last 30 PAs.
Are people further unaware that he has the third (Steamer) or fourth (Zips) best projection of any hitter on the team? This is a classic game of telephone. He didn’t suggest that and nobody else on the show were advocating for him being DFA’d. Milliken was actually losing his mind over why he hasn’t been playing. They said that if healthy, the team is treating him as a player that’s not valued by the current regime.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 23, 2024 15:03:49 GMT -5
Manifesting Craig’s Cub connections playing a role here
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 23, 2024 15:10:30 GMT -5
Niko is hot. He strikes out a lot but he's also walking and hitting doubles and Home runs which is why his on base percentage is so high. His numbers this year are very good yes only 15 games but we need a 1st baseman right now and instead of Bobby who no longer deserves a look at this point why not put Niko in there. If your argument is to play him because he's hot but "hot" involves a 30+% K%, then I am more or less out on that idea. If he were already on the 40 man roster, then sure. But if you're going to do some reconfiguration of the 40 man anyway, you might as well pursue an option that has some sort of major league track record. I understand but he's an internal option that is worth a look right now until Casas comes back. I understand where you're coming from but why get someone from outside the organization for just a few weeks. He can also build some trade value at the very least but it would probably help him to come up with and play with the big boys and get a taste. He did win minor league player of the year for us so he's got the potential. I would rather see him then Dalbec or Reyes at 1st right now which was my main point.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 23, 2024 15:10:37 GMT -5
I’d really like to know what the hell is going on w/ Masa. I mean if he was hurt, wouldn’t we have heard something by now? Scoping Twitter and someone made an excellent point why Masa would be sitting tonight. Given that this is O’Neill’s first game back and you need to DH him plus the fact that you have no backup OFs, it does make sense that Cora wants to keep him on the bench in the event someone in the OF goes down.
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Post by nomar on Apr 23, 2024 15:11:14 GMT -5
Manifesting Craig’s Cub connections playing a role here PTBNL or Cash Considerations, get ready to learn Chicagoan
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Apr 23, 2024 15:12:14 GMT -5
If your argument is to play him because he's hot but "hot" involves a 30+% K%, then I am more or less out on that idea. If he were already on the 40 man roster, then sure. But if you're going to do some reconfiguration of the 40 man anyway, you might as well pursue an option that has some sort of major league track record. I understand but he's an internal option that is worth a look right now until Casas comes back. I understand where you're coming from but why get someone from outside the organization for just a few weeks. He can also build some trade value at the very least but it would probably help him to come up with and play with the big boys and get a taste. He did win minor league player of the year for us so he's got the potential. I would rather see him then Dalbec or Reyes at 1st right now which was my main point. Counterpoint is that you would actually get better trade value with someone like Garrett Cooper if he rakes for a few weeks. We also don’t even know how long Casas will be out. If we are going by the sound bites from Cora, it would sound like he’s done for the whole season.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 23, 2024 15:13:52 GMT -5
I understand but he's an internal option that is worth a look right now until Casas comes back. I understand where you're coming from but why get someone from outside the organization for just a few weeks. He can also build some trade value at the very least but it would probably help him to come up with and play with the big boys and get a taste. He did win minor league player of the year for us so he's got the potential. I would rather see him then Dalbec or Reyes at 1st right now which was my main point. Counterpoint is that you would actually get better trade value with someone like Garrett Cooper if he rakes for a few weeks. We also don’t even know how long Casas will be out. If we are going by the sound bites from Cora, it would sound like he’s done for the whole season. Cooper is a better option yes. Especially since he a RHH.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 23, 2024 15:16:42 GMT -5
If your argument is to play him because he's hot but "hot" involves a 30+% K%, then I am more or less out on that idea. If he were already on the 40 man roster, then sure. But if you're going to do some reconfiguration of the 40 man anyway, you might as well pursue an option that has some sort of major league track record. I understand but he's an internal option that is worth a look right now until Casas comes back. I understand where you're coming from but why get someone from outside the organization for just a few weeks. He can also build some trade value at the very least but it would probably help him to come up with and play with the big boys and get a taste. He did win minor league player of the year for us so he's got the potential. I would rather see him then Dalbec or Reyes at 1st right now which was my main point. I think if you get the right external option there’s no guarantee he’s just a stopgap. I think Garrett Cooper makes a ton of sense as a rest of season option as a RHH platoon to Casas who can also probably slide in left in certain situations against lefties. But even if it is a short term option either one is going to be here for a few weeks so you should maximize your window now as this team is good enough to at least compete. If you put Kavadas on the 40 man you’ve potentially got Dalbec 2.0, the cost of cutting a guy off the 40 is way higher than the cost of never putting him on to begin with.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 23, 2024 15:18:18 GMT -5
Casas has a rib fracture and is out "awhile" according to Cora. Is that a full season type thing? It would seem possible that it may be. Probably no telling at this moment how long it may take his rib to heal 100 percent.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 23, 2024 15:19:15 GMT -5
Yeah something isn't adding up there. Yoshi hits a clutch homerun on 4/20 in Pittsburgh and then sits vs Martin Perez (L) and Lively (R) tonight? You'd have to think it's some sort of injury or other issue, right? Milliken on the "Section 10" podcast was ludicrously suggesting he might get DFA'd soon, to which I would say: A) it's April 23rd, and B) EVERYONE IS HURT WHO ARE YOU REPLACING HIM WITH, and C) again, it's April 23rd. Are people completely unaware he's been one of the team's hottest hitters lately? 162 wRC+ in his last 30 PAs.
Are people further unaware that he has the third (Steamer) or fourth (Zips) best projection of any hitter on the team? The only argument for Kavadas I could get on board with is maybe he catches lightning in a bottle before the league really figures him out. That being said, at this stage due to injury our lineup resembles the land of misfit toys. I am not rooting against Dalbec, but I haven't seen any reason to believe he's about to turn a corner and become a productive player either. At least not here in Boston. I was hoping the Sox would do the right thing and trade him to a place with maybe a little less pressure and a lot more opportunity. He seems like a stand up dude but I can't watch him watch strike 1 and 2 and then swing wildly at a pitch 5 inches off the plate for strike 3 anymore. I don't have enough nitroglycerine for it.
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Post by trotman on Apr 23, 2024 15:24:29 GMT -5
Casas has a rib fracture and is out "awhile" according to Cora. Is that a full season type thing? It would seem possible that it may be. Probably no telling at this moment how long it may take his rib to heal 100 percent. Sounds like that's a minimum of 6 weeks without activity. So you're looking at the All-Star break.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 23, 2024 15:27:45 GMT -5
I’d really like to know what the hell is going on w/ Masa. I mean if he was hurt, wouldn’t we have heard something by now? Scoping Twitter and someone made an excellent point why Masa would be sitting tonight. Given that this is O’Neill’s first game back and you need to DH him plus the fact that you have no backup OFs, it does make sense that Cora wants to keep him on the bench in the event someone in the OF goes down. But why couldn't - shouldn't - that be Refsnyder with a righty on thge mound for CLE?
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Post by wamderingdude on Apr 23, 2024 15:30:17 GMT -5
So, Masa is healthy but they wanted TON to DH and apparently refsnyder is a more viable option in the outfield against a righty. Tomorrow Devers is DHing so Masa sits again meaning he will have played twice in like an 8 day span. Whether it’s fair or not i do not think he’s on this team august 1st. And i also don’t know if they are going to be able to trade him, but i don’t know if it matters all that much.
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Post by trotman on Apr 23, 2024 15:32:23 GMT -5
So, Masa is healthy but they wanted TON to DH and apparently refsnyder is a more viable option in the outfield against a righty. Tomorrow Devers is DHing so Masa sits again meaning he will have played twice in like an 8 day span. Whether it’s fair or not i do not think he’s on this team august 1st. And i also don’t know if they are going to be able to trade him, but i don’t know if it matters all that much. TON will likely sit tomorrow and Masa will get the start. As others have said, Masa has actually been heating up of late. There is more to it than just not hitting.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 23, 2024 15:33:21 GMT -5
Casas has a rib fracture and is out "awhile" according to Cora. Is that a full season type thing? It would seem possible that it may be. Probably no telling at this moment how long it may take his rib to heal 100 percent. Sounds like that's a minimum of 6 weeks without activity. So you're looking at the All-Star break. The buzzard luck the Sox have had so far I wouldn't bet on the minimum unfortunately. Either way it's going to be tough to stack up enough W's to stay competitive without arguably their best hitter.
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Post by wamderingdude on Apr 23, 2024 15:33:39 GMT -5
So, Masa is healthy but they wanted TON to DH and apparently refsnyder is a more viable option in the outfield against a righty. Tomorrow Devers is DHing so Masa sits again meaning he will have played twice in like an 8 day span. Whether it’s fair or not i do not think he’s on this team august 1st. And i also don’t know if they are going to be able to trade him, but i don’t know if it matters all that much. TON will likely sit tomorrow and Masa will get the start. As others have said, Masa has actually been heating up of late. There is more to it than just not hitting. Masa is going to start in the outfield tomorrow? Why isn’t he today then?
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 23, 2024 15:34:31 GMT -5
Sounds like a stress fracture. Aaron Judge in 2020 and David Dahl in 2017 are two guys that got that from swinging a bat.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 23, 2024 15:37:37 GMT -5
Are people completely unaware he's been one of the team's hottest hitters lately? 162 wRC+ in his last 30 PAs.
Are people further unaware that he has the third (Steamer) or fourth (Zips) best projection of any hitter on the team? This is a classic game of telephone. He didn’t suggest that and nobody else on the show were advocating for him being DFA’d. Milliken was actually losing his mind over why he hasn’t been playing. They said that if healthy, the team is treating him as a player that’s not valued by the current regime. This isn’t a classic game of telephone, I listened to the podcast with Section 10. Quoting Milliken: “Cora could have made the point [about Yoshida not playing vs Martin Perez] after that the game, ‘Hey he needed a day,;’ he said it after the game ‘he’s fine.’ Which is telling, if that’s how you feel about this guy and he’s making 18 million and he’s making the roster this hard to manipulate for you, you’re not far from DFAing a guy like that.” (1 hour, 9 minutes like 39 seconds in on their YouTube channel.) Maybe he’s right and they do feel like that - but it seems way more likely that Cora is not being fully transparent about Yoshida’s health or some other factor. You’re not cutting bait in April for a guy you’re playing that much money for - especially when you literally have no other healthy players on the 40 man roster to substitute him with! (I may be too harsh on Milliken here, but I have a particular annoyance with people who get paid to follow and comment on baseball who make absurdly lazy and dumb takes.)
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Apr 23, 2024 15:38:35 GMT -5
Scoping Twitter and someone made an excellent point why Masa would be sitting tonight. Given that this is O’Neill’s first game back and you need to DH him plus the fact that you have no backup OFs, it does make sense that Cora wants to keep him on the bench in the event someone in the OF goes down. But why couldn't - shouldn't - that be Refsnyder with a righty on thge mound for CLE? Seems like Masa must be in the dog house, right ?? Maybe he did not hustle on a grounder or something but the conflict with Cora has been less public than with Verdugo last year. Has to be something.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 23, 2024 15:44:12 GMT -5
Looks like we went with our best defensive OF for the Ace would be the only reason I can come up with. Why Masa wouldn't start over Rob is beyond my understanding especially against a RHP
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 23, 2024 15:48:14 GMT -5
That's in the MLB though, Kavadas has a 32% K Rate in AAA so far on his life, and actually had an even higher K rate in AA. How many guys have an >30% K rate in AAA and are able to be average MLB hitters? (Serious question, I have no idea, but my sense is it is a low number). Before Dalbec's good MLB stretch in 2020-2021 he struck out <25% of the time across AA and AAA in 2019. I was curious about this question, so looked it up and found a few "successes" since 2014 (your mileage may vary on how successful these are): Matt Chapman - Struck out 30.8% of the time in 289 PAs in AAA. Been an above 100 wrc+ player each year in MLB. Brent Rooker - struck out 34.7% in AAA in 2019, 30% in 2021, got it down to 28% in 2022, and had a big 2023 (127 wrc+) after struggling in his initial major league exposure until then. TBD if he is able to repeat that level. Josh Lowe - Struck out 26.2% in AAA in 2021, climbed up to 32.8% in AAA in 2022. Had a bad first year in the majors, broke out last year with 131 wrc+. TBD if he repeats. Joey Gallo - nobody can really compare to him, since his raw power is so insane he might be above average wrc+ while striking out 40+% of the time again this year. Jose Siri - Was decent last year, but I personally don't believe in his bat. K'd 30.7% of the time in 2021 in AAA, but had cut it down to 25.6 in 78 plate appearances in 2022 before getting the call up. TBD on Nelson Velasquez. Elly De La Cruz struck out 30.9% of the time in AA in 207 PAs, then 26.9% in AAA in 186. Is destroying in small sample size so far this year. Most others didn't make it, or only had a year or two of note with replacement level seasons mixed in (like Trayce Thompson). Don't know if this says anything about Niko's chances, but it was interesting to look at. I see what you did there
Edit: Yes, they will always be the Devil Rays to me
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