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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 22, 2013 18:28:00 GMT -5
Ortiz is like fine wine, only gets better with age.
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Post by awall on Jun 22, 2013 18:33:31 GMT -5
I don't like Webster's motion at all. Looks like the ball is really easy to pick up.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 18:34:20 GMT -5
Allen Webster is fool's gold.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 22, 2013 18:38:17 GMT -5
Allen Webster is fool's gold. Based on what?
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 22, 2013 18:38:45 GMT -5
NO command of fastball.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 18:40:58 GMT -5
Hype vs. reality.
"He'd be awesome if he could just throw strikes."
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 18:42:34 GMT -5
Please get Morales or anyone in their before this jackass replicates his last MLB start.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 22, 2013 18:43:18 GMT -5
He's still not ready but it's easy to see that the stuff is clearly there. Just has to work on his command.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 22, 2013 18:43:50 GMT -5
Lord, I hate watching rookie pitchers. Ya know, had we kept Aceves on the roster. He'd have been able to pitch today. He pitched 5 innings on Tuesday afternoon. We kept Pedro Beato around for a few days and that really helped us win a couple of games.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 18:45:17 GMT -5
He's still not ready but it's easy to see that the stuff is clearly there. Just has to work on his command. Definitely. And I need to work on getting taller.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 22, 2013 18:49:03 GMT -5
Quick question. Will Webster still be in the game when the puck drops about 8:20pm EST?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 22, 2013 18:50:35 GMT -5
Three ground ball singles, a walk to Cabrera... and who wouldn't do that... and one mistake pitch. In between all that he strikes out the side. It's definitely a steep learning curve, but for all that it's worth, Gameday had many of those pitches with a nasty factor in the vicinity of 70. I'm reminded of what it's like the first time you jump into a high performance car, or onto a crotch rocket. Learning all the shift points can take some time.
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Post by godot on Jun 22, 2013 18:50:39 GMT -5
Most pitchers take time to develop, but they can lose their confidence early if they are pushed too soon. The dude who said Aceves should have pitched today was on target. I am not too hopeful about De La Rosa at this stage either. There was a reason why the Dodgers did not balk putting these two into the trade. Can't blame the Sox thou, as they really did not have much in the minors at the time. Morales will see some time today hopefully. He is still working his way back and the work will be fine. You do realize the Sox have been about 500 for about the last 50 games.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 22, 2013 18:50:46 GMT -5
Guidas you really need to relax. This is what the second time you've ever seen him and you are already declaring him "fools gold", quick to jump the gun are you?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 22, 2013 18:53:00 GMT -5
Three ground ball singles, a walk to Cabrera... and who wouldn't do that... and one mistake pitch. In between all that he strikes out the side. It's definitely a steep learning curve, but for all that it's worth, Gameday had many of those pitches with a nasty factor in the vicinity of 70. I'm reminded of what it's like the first time you jump into a high performance car, or onto a crotch rocket. Learning all the shift points can take some time. Agreed 100%
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jun 22, 2013 18:53:17 GMT -5
My god, you guys couldn't be more reactionary...
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 19:10:20 GMT -5
Guidas you really need to relax. This is what the second time you've ever seen him and you are already declaring him "fools gold", quick to jump the gun are you? Well, there's thosebeen back-to--back AAA starts where he was ejected for hitting batters - not becuase he was doing it on purpose, either. Dude is not ready. Aceves or Morales would've been better choices.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 22, 2013 19:16:17 GMT -5
Not ready, but I don't think we can label it a horrible decision to start him tonight. Aceves certainly would have made sense, though.
Can't deny that all these swing-and-misses he's getting are quite encouraging.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 22, 2013 19:18:02 GMT -5
He's still not ready but it's easy to see that the stuff is clearly there. Just has to work on his command. The movement on his pitches are carrying them out of the strike zone. He just doesn't throw a straight ball. It's a lot harder for someone like that to improve his command. Hard to pin-point a ball on the corner when you don't know where it's going. I looked up his stats in AAA and he's already plunked 11 guys in 51 1/3 innings. That's more hit batters than guys with good control issue walks. I'm sure he's not doing it on purpose. He just doesn't know where the heck his ball is going.
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 22, 2013 19:24:22 GMT -5
Guidas you really need to relax. This is what the second time you've ever seen him and you are already declaring him "fools gold", quick to jump the gun are you? He always does that. Not everyone is reasonable like me, and waits till guys are established players before bashing them.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 19:29:49 GMT -5
My bad - I thought this was the major leagues and not, like, daycare or some event where we give trohies and attaboys for being lousy but not quite as lousy as last time. But still lousy. And immediately blowing a two-run lead against one of the best pitchers in the major leagues right now - times two.
I hope he does better. I'm sure he's improving. He's probably a nice guy and a snappy dresser. But he has no business starting for a first place team in the major leagues.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 22, 2013 19:38:02 GMT -5
My bad - I thought this was the major leagues and not, like, daycare or some event where we give trohies and attaboys for being lousy but not quite as lousy as last time. But still lousy. And immediately blowing a two-run lead against one of the best pitchers in the major leagues right now - times two. Not burying his career based on one start = giving him a trophy?
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Post by marrcus on Jun 22, 2013 19:38:29 GMT -5
Things could be worse, he could be in Fenway (v.Detroit) tonight. If he can keep it under six with 5 inn work that's not ...horrible (given the slam).
Iggy is seeing some shots hit at him.
Kenny is annoying.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 22, 2013 19:51:30 GMT -5
My bad - I thought this was the major leagues and not, like, daycare or some event where we give trohies and attaboys for being lousy but not quite as lousy as last time. But still lousy. And immediately blowing a two-run lead against one of the best pitchers in the major leagues right now - times two. Not burying his career based on one start = giving him a trophy? I'm not burying it either. I'm saying he's not an MLB pitcher at this juncture of his professional career, and anyone who thinks he is, is holding fool's gold. This would be based on his inconsistent performances from and including his last major league start through his AAA startsupto and including this evening. Myopinionisthat heneedstospend more time in AAA until he can show mpre proficient and consistent. That and - as crazy as it sounds - Aceves has been dependable in his spot starts since he was put on the Pawtucket shuttle.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jun 22, 2013 20:03:09 GMT -5
Franklin Morales is fool's gold.
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