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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 18:08:10 GMT -5
It's very telling that my two interactions with you this week have been 1. You using a benign statement saying I will miss a player who I liked as a jumping off point as to whining about why you won't. 2. A several-post diatribe about why winning championships, and not domestic violence, is "what really matters." I never said domestic violence doesn't matter, learn to read. In fact, I stated the opposite. That's really offensive from my point of view. I didn't use your post as a start off point. It was being talked about for 3 posts and I chimed in soon thereafter. Not my favorite Sox player. He was very frustrating and good all throughout the course of his career here. Ohh and in pro sports, winning is all that matters. If you want to watch baseball and just watch for the enjoyment of it, go watch youth baseball for a living.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 14:53:51 GMT -5
Maybe Stevens doesn’t know how to coach or develop a star player.. You do wonder how much success Stevens would have in the big 3 ERA. At least I do wonder. He couldn't manage that team at all last year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 14:27:56 GMT -5
I won't miss Porcello. Goodbye. He absolutely stunk in the postseason in Cy Young season. He was decent last postseason, but he blew up against the Astros once. He was better than the crappy bullpen depth at the time, but that isn't saying much.
He was either always one pitch from getting out of a jam, or one pitch from getting blown up. It was either good or bad. The only thing he gave consistently was innings, which has value. Not enough to keep paying someone, as we have found out with the Khechul market.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 14:18:25 GMT -5
I'm all for the automated strike zones, no time outs, and whatever.
MLB has got to do something with extra innings and make it end at a certain point.
Ohh and the games last too long. The pitch clock will help, but not much I think.
The best idea I've seen to make games go shorter, is to not change anything, but the count. 3 balls take a walk. 2 strikes and you're out. It tells the batter to be more aggresive because he has fewer mistakes to make. It increases the action of the game. It would also allow starting pitching to be more relevant. All of a sudden, starters can go longer because they're throwing fewer pitches. This also leads to less pitching changes and such. It's the only fair thing that I can come up with that doesn't change anything but the count of the batter.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 4:36:09 GMT -5
I would welcome Theo back. He's a very flawed GM when it comes to spending money, but he builds a team basically the way you want it to be done.
He's very creative. He understands windows and tries to maximize when he can.
It seems like it's his job if he wants it, but you have no idea if he wants it or if the Cubs will allow it.
He made so many critical mistakes, but he's also made so many beautiful moves too. He's not afraid to take risks, and that's exactly what the Sox GM has to do.
The Sox had 6 or 7 winning seasons out of 9 when he was the GM back then. He made the postseason 5 times and a near 6 in 2011. That's as good as it gets. The rules were different back then, but he's proven to build a team from even the ground up with the Cubs too.
If he ever fixes his free agency problems and his money spending problems, he'd be even better.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 4:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 25, 2019 2:30:30 GMT -5
Yes, all the teams that stunk 3-4 years ago are way better save for the Knicks and the Hornets. It's not even close.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 21:27:14 GMT -5
Is there anyone here who thinks the Sox would be better off with Sale than they would be with Betts ? It's said they can't sign Betts because of payroll. However if the were able to unload Sale the problem would be manageable. The trouble is I doubt any team in MLB would take on Sales contract even if the Sox offered to trade him for a bag of peanuts. No one is taking Sale, Price, or Eovaldi with their injury issues. That's more of the problem here if you're trying to get rid of any of the three.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 17:37:12 GMT -5
Devin McCourty has stated that he's going to retire soon and contemplated retirement after last season. He doesn't have much time in NFL left, I think. He has not stated he’s going to retire soon. Most recent comments on it. Howe: Have you thought about your future beyond this year? DMac: “I haven’t,” McCourty told Howe. “I’ve been having a lot of fun this year. I haven’t thought about next year or anything else. I’m just trying to see how much better I can get in year 10 and see how good I can be still at, in a couple weeks, (when I turn) 32 years old and still playing football and trying to embrace that.” I saw it before the Superbowl in the Superbowl week that he was hinting about retirement. I'll have to look it up when I have time later.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 16:18:17 GMT -5
Blowing past the threshold on the bullpen is the same thing as blowing past the threshold for Mookie? First of all, you don't speak for every one. Chris wanted to sign relievers, so not every one thinks thinks that spending money on relievers is dumb. Secondly, repeat after me. John. Henry. Sets. Limits. On. Everything. He did it for the payroll. He did it with Texeira. He will do it with Mookie. It's up to Mookie on to whether to take less to stay here. All you have to do is look at the history and the behavior of John Henry to figure this out rather quickly.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 16:06:15 GMT -5
I can see Henry giving one last offer to Mookie, but it will be at a lesser amount. Call it 8-9 years at 270-290 million or whatever number he's dead set on not going past in his head. By then, I won't blame Mookie for leaving because he's worth more than that. He KNOWS this too. That's why he has rejected 2 other contract offers in the past.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 15:39:06 GMT -5
Either way of your interpretation, the writing is on the wall. Every indication shows the Sox are willing to listen and Mookie cares just as much about getting his value. The discussion lies in what they should actually do. To me, you're the Boston freaking Red Sox. Make like Teddy KGB and pay the man his money. Remember when we had this conversation last year about the Sox paying a bunch of relievers and blowing over the third threshold because you're the Boston freaking Red Sox? Ya I remember that, and I almost knew that wasn't going to happen. Yet, everyone hated my opinion for it and agreed with everyone else that they should blow past the third threshold. Based on John Henry's history of mega contracts like this, he taps out at a certain point. He did it with Texeira. He tried to dump Manny. He hasn't really pursued a top 5 paid player beyond that. So the rational you're using isn't the one Henry has ever used. Would love to be wrong, but ya, I don't think I am. The value of fair return is perception, especially based on prospects. I'm sure he'll get 2 top 100 prospects or close to that value. Hindsight is going to determine if they exceed that 7 WAR minimum level bar you're looking for in those prospects careers. Ohh and you're welcome for the input.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 6:51:21 GMT -5
Devin McCourty has stated that he's going to retire soon and contemplated retirement after last season.
He doesn't have much time in NFL left, I think.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 5:57:51 GMT -5
Isn't that an argument in favor of the Quintana trade? They acquired him and he pitched well in 2017 and they won the division in no small part because of the stability he brought to the rotation. And that's on top of the fact that they weren't just acquiring him for 2017 - he was under contract for the two years beyond that as well, with the option for 2020. There's a strong argument to be made that Quintana made a bigger difference getting the Cubs to the 2017 postseason than Chapman did in getting to the 2016 season. From there, it had quite a bit to do with people who aren't them. And Quintana was a key part in the playoffs in 2017. he was very good in beating the Nats in Game 3 of the NLDS, helped settle things down in that wild Game 5, and pitched well again in Game 1 against the Dodgers. Then he got lit up in Game 5 of that series, of course. Putting all that aside, I'm actually inclined to agree that Jimenez (and Cease) was too steep a cost there. I'm not arguing it's a good trade, I'm just saying it's a less bad one. The value in Quintana's 2.5 years is just so, so much greater than a half-season of Chapman. I also think the Yankees have been stupid for years not getting the pitching they need to finally create a complete team. It's such a great point and why the trades that didn't happen are just as bad as the ones that did happen at times. The Yankees could have gotten Cole. They balked. Instead of paying that extra at the time, they paid the price and now their biggest foe in the postseason in the Astros have him. Meanwhile Clint Frazier might be out of options soon enough and if the Yankees don't win this year, they might have wasted a huge part of what they've been building for years here. The Yankees might not be better than this year. They'll have more chances I'm sure the next 2 years, but geeze. Pull the trigger like the Cubs did, or you could never cash in. Funny I say that with the Yankees GM that has a name of Cashman.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 0:47:36 GMT -5
JDM being attached to Pujols in his prime now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 0:32:35 GMT -5
If Chapman was on our team I would have trouble rooting for the Sox. I call crap on this too Salami. I rooted for the Patriots just as hard when Antonio Brown was acused of rape (when he was here), knowing full well he could be a rapist and be playing football on the Patriots. He was here after the rape accusations too (even though the Patriots didn't know about it reportedly). You can seperate the two things. You can still dislike Chapman and still root for the Sox if he was here. Maybe some people could seperate their fandom and stop rooting, but I have a hard time seeing a lot of people doing it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 24, 2019 0:30:10 GMT -5
Based on Instagram, I am reasonably sure that 10% of tonight's attendance at the Trop is made up of Red Sox minor leaguers. They must have sent a bus. That huge attendance is due to the Rays being in it. I think all 6 of their main fans are there. Lol, ya. Rays fans are in postseason form as Sox fans still outnumber their crowd as the Sox are out of it. I hate this franchise so much.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 22:48:43 GMT -5
I never said it was ever a good trade either. Putting words into my mouth. I said the Quintana trade is worse.
It is worse when you consider now that the Khechul's of the world are going for 1 year at 13 million per year. You know, the same kind of quality pitcher Quintana is, only they gave up a stud plus way more to get that, instead of just paying money for it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 22:32:19 GMT -5
Chapman had an ERA under 2 that whole postseason and was gassed to that point. Chapman was a HUGE reason why they ever made it to a game 7. Nice cherry pick though. It's cherry picking to say that blowing a save in game 7 of the World Series isn't what you traded 6 years of control of a future All Star for? Your argument is that it worked out so it was a good trade. Well it's total f'ing luck that it worked out when he blew a save in game 7 of the World Series. Nothing was lucky about Chapman's absolute dominance save for one performance in that postseason. It's cherry picking for using that one performance against him when he carried that bullpen to that Game 7. He was the bullpen that year. My argument was for a trade that freaking worked, not that it was a great trade. It did. It was a justifiable trade for that reason alone. Chapman was huge for that run. Arguing against it and calling it luck is pure ignorance. Sometimes you have to pay a lot to win it all. Other times you can be efficient and still win it all. Ideally you don't want to trade your best prospect for a run, but after 108 years, ya I'd be sick of it too and put it on the table to taste victory.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 20:13:28 GMT -5
Keep losing Sox. Got to keep tanking.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 19:35:13 GMT -5
I have to be honest, Michel is making me a little nervous. That being said; it really feels like there have been zero holes for him. You can’t run through a wall of people. They are way too predictable when Sony is in there versus Birkenhead. Burkhead has bigger holes. Now is that Michels fault because he can’t run routes? I really don’t know. He’s been good in pass protection. The only thing the Jets knew how to do it seemed like was stopping the run. Not too worried about it yet. He'll have some great games coming up against weaker D lines.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 15:43:38 GMT -5
And Chapman blew the save in game 7 of the World Series. Big success or just complete and total luck? You do not get to use hindsight when making trades and no team is ever going to give up a Torres like prospect for any rental reliever again. It would be like trading Mookie in 2013 for two months of Craig Kimbrel. Except it's not even like that because Mookie wasn't nearly as highly regarded as Torres at the time. Chapman had an ERA under 2 that whole postseason and was gassed to that point. Chapman was a HUGE reason why they ever made it to a game 7. Nice cherry pick though.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 14:14:36 GMT -5
At some point, value should be put aside for the things that matter. YES! That's what I was sayi-- [Jonah Hill maybe cut it out dot gif] The phrase "things that matter" in the context of a baseball-only discussion with regards to Chapman is reeeeally dicey. Flags. Fly. Forever. It's perminent. Final.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2019 2:47:58 GMT -5
Chicago isn't taking back that Chapman trade, especially since it resulted in a championship.
At some point, value should be put aside for the things that matter. Like winning.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 22, 2019 20:45:29 GMT -5
I want nothing to do with a Theo reunion. He is pulling the same stuff that DD Pulled, and he doesn’t have top picks to fall back on. Oh and the Chapman trade. Don’t forget the Eloy trade The Eloy trade was worse. Like 100 times worse. The Chapman trade at least resulted in a championship.
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