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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2023 15:01:56 GMT -5
Bloom year four, no draft picks or international guys near the majors. We do have DD crappy farm suppling elite prospects and depth guys! The problem with your thought process is at that time he was still on Cherington guys and multiple bad drafts and international classes produced nothing! Wasn't that farm wasn't bad, it was the reason the farm was bad and couldn't help. DD guys in majors Houck, Casas, Bello, Murphy, Walter and Duran. In minors Rafela, Perales, and Gonzalez in top ten, Bonaci and Castro top 20, Mata #21 and Blalock just traded for Urias. With some others below that. That's four top 100 guys and basically the young foundation of the team everyone is excited for. Why do you always ignore that there’s a lot that happens between an amateur joining the organization and that amateur debuting in the big leagues? This insistence on dogmatically assigning players to whoever was running the show when they joined the organization is extremely strange to me, and I don’t think it’s a very useful way to analyze this stuff. I don't, fun fact of the day, guy in charge of player development is the same guy DD promoted years back. Maybe I should take everyone's else rational and credit DD with Blooms guys because he hired the director of player development and he's has to be rather good at his job. The point was there was a bunch of talent in the system, it was just young and years away.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2023 14:54:45 GMT -5
Come on now, are you really giving Bloom credit for keeping homegrown talent around? He traded Betts, he traded Benintendi, he let ERod, Bradley and Bogaerts leave in free agency. Now I'm not even talking about if those were right or wrong, just he's let more homegrown talent leave than both the prior GMs This is why some people bring up the Bloom fan club, acting like he's doing something better than past GMs, when in reality he's worse.Can we try to avoid stating subjective things as if they're facts? It just makes the conversation unnecessarily combative If we're talking full-time players that we're homegrown that were still good it is a fact. Lester, Ellsbury and Pablebon for Cherington, DD didn't move on from 5 guys like that.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2023 14:21:07 GMT -5
This is contrary to the scuttlebutt rumors that Henry was upset with Bloom about the trade deadline: Build a dynasty it is..... I love that he cites Fangraphs' rankings. I have pointed out so many times that when DD was fired, the Red Sox were at the bottom of Fangraphs rankings, and now they are up at the top, and yet still have heard arguments from people that DD wasn't fired because of his handling of the farm. Here it is right from the horses mouth lol. Bloom year four, no draft picks or international guys near the majors. We do have DD crappy farm suppling elite prospects and depth guys! The problem with your thought process is at that time he was still on Cherington guys and multiple bad drafts and international classes produced nothing! Wasn't that farm wasn't bad, it was the reason the farm was bad and couldn't help. DD guys in majors Houck, Casas, Bello, Murphy, Walter and Duran. In minors Rafela, Perales, and Gonzalez in top ten, Bonaci and Castro top 20, Mata #21 and Blalock just traded for Urias. With some others below that. That's four top 100 guys and basically the young foundation of the team everyone is excited for.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2023 14:03:34 GMT -5
That is not a fair comparison, though. You can look back and say they didn’t but now they do, but we don’t know if this will be successful. That is, for example, the Sox drafted Trey Ball, which turned out to be a disaster. They drafted Jay Groome, which failed, but was actually a bit like Mayer… a guy dropping to them that seemed really lucky. They got Dalbec in round 4 that year. But they took guys like Chavis, who was a decent prospect… that was with a 26th pick. etc. Beni was a hit. Now, what if Yorke is the next Chavis? Just the wrong side of good enough? Romero flops? God forbid, Mayer disappoints? Then in a decade we could be saying they didn’t do a good job building cost-controlled guys. I just think it is impossible to compare known results with current expectations. (Who knew what was coming with Kutter Crawford, for example). I would definitely say that taking two high school pitchers with two of their three highest draft picks of the decade was among their mistakes.
But I'm not just talking about how they drafted. There was also losing a whole class of IFA guys as a penalty for rule-breaking. (Also losing a second-round pick in 2020 for rule-breaking, though that's more recent.) Also trading away unnecessarily many prospects in trades for relief pitchers. The poor prospect return in the Nick Punto trade. Also a general failure to add prospects even when they had obvious opportunities to, as with the Lackey trade.
I'm also glad that the Bloom regime has shown an inclination to keep home-grown talent around long-term (Devers extension especially, and also Whitlock), something the Cherington and Dombrowski regimes mostly failed to do, though Dombrowski did get that three-year extension of Bogaerts.
And yes, every single highly ranked current prospect could wash out. What we know is that it was a bottom-tier farm system ca. 2019, and that had predictably bad consequences for the major league team which we are just starting to emerge from. And it is now decidedly not a bottom tier farm system. You don't need to be a soothsayer to appreciate the organizational philosophy here.
ADD: Also, if your argument is that one in the hand is worth two in the bush and you need to go for it when you have the chance to be really good - well, there's risk to that too. See the current condition of the fine baseball organizations of New York City, for instance. It's riskier, in fact, because if it doesn't work out then you're boned in both the present and the future. That's two out of the three tenses!
Come on now, are you really giving Bloom credit for keeping homegrown talent around? He traded Betts, he traded Benintendi, he let ERod, Bradley and Bogaerts leave in free agency. Now I'm not even talking about if those were right or wrong, just he's let more homegrown talent leave than both the prior GMs This is why some people bring up the Bloom fan club, acting like he's doing something better than past GMs, when in reality he's worse.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 11, 2023 10:14:23 GMT -5
I don't exactly know what explosion is for a WR, he did have tons of explosive plays all over his tape. Last 3 games freshman year, versus Bama, Florida and Mississippi, 27 catches 527 yards 4 TDs, 100 yards in each game. Mississippi 14 catches, 308 yards 3 TDs. His whole Sophomore year, which is why he was seen as first round pick, some had him top ten. Last year he struggled coming back from injury with a new coaching staff, but check out Florida and Georgia games. Sec championship game 6 catches 107 yards 1 TD versus Georgia, 53 yard TD that he runs through the whole Georgia secondary for a TD, which just had how many guys drafted. I don’t mean charted explosive plays. If you actually watch his tape, a big portion of his production is off schemed up underneath and intermediate routes where he has free running lanes. He’s never really outrunning dudes. He’s also seldom high pointing the ball in traffic. With that said, I think he can be a decent NFL receiver. But think Jakobi Meyers, not explosive. I've watched his tape, a crap load of it. He doesn't have free lanes, he has great vision that allows him to cut through SEC defenses like a hot knife through butter. It's all over his tape, repeatedly. He's rather unique and I can see why you say what your saying. He makes it look easy and most YAC guys are more like Douglas with Juke in their game. He has a little bit of that, but it's more vision. It's like a RB that can allows picks the right lanes. Yeah very little straight line crap, that's a guy like Thornton. Classic example is that 53 yard TD versus Georgia, he runs through and around 6 Georgia defenders in a almost z pattern. He might have the best vision I've ever seen watching WR tape. I can't think Meyers because Meyers had almost no Yac and vision. Meyers catches that pass against Georgia and doesn't get 40 Yac yards with a TD. We'll see if it translates to the NFL, but it's that YAC ability that gives him explosive plays and with Meyers it was his lack of Yac that made him lack explosive plays given his speed.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 10, 2023 13:46:26 GMT -5
I don't see adding well established veterans with long track records as margin moves, margin moves example Matt Dermody, Donelson Lamet, Taylor Scott, Zack Littel, Jake Faria, etc So we're counting minor league free agents? Okay - the Dodgers signed 17 of them to the Red Sox 10. What's even the argument here? That teams shouldn't make moves on the margins? Just example of marginal players, nothing more. The point is what I said, Dodgers added Lynn, Kelly, and Yarbough to address those issues , while having a deal made for ERod who blew it up not waiving his no trade clause. Bloom claimed Lamet, but people on here act like those are the same. Dodgers 4 established veterans with long histories of doing well, versus a marginal player. LIke I said Bloom gets Lynn and Urais he gets an A+ from me. You get a D claiming a guy off of waivers for needed pitching depth.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 10, 2023 10:59:56 GMT -5
Lol a lot of us just wanted a Lance Lynn type guy to eat innings, we got a guy off waivers. Don't forget ERod deal he blocked. If you call those moves on the margins, then there are clearly different levels of margin moves and Blooms are well below those. Bloom doesn’t add 5/6 starters and middle relievers and second basemen who are coming off two straight 2-3 WAR seasons but are currently having a down year? If anything what you’re saying shows the Dodgers made *more* moves on the margin this year than the Red Sox did, since they also added waiver and DFA guys. I don’t even get what there is to debate about on this. I don't see adding well established veterans with long track records as margin moves, margin moves example Matt Dermody, Donelson Lamet, Taylor Scott, Zack Littel, Jake Faria, etc
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 10, 2023 10:44:17 GMT -5
Come on now, Dodgers needed starters they got Lance Lynn and had a deal in place for ERod, we signed a guy off waivers and waived him a game latter. They also added Kelly and a starting level 2nd Baseman, along with Kiké and Braiser. Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly, Amed Rosario, Kiké and Brasier as the Dodgers moves I think proves the point that they too are more active on the margins of the roster Lol a lot of us just wanted a Lance Lynn type guy to eat innings, we got a guy off waivers. Don't forget ERod deal he blocked. If you call those moves on the margins, then there are clearly different levels of margin moves and Blooms are well below those. Edit; I give Bloom an A+ if he adds Lynn and Urais, nevermind ERod.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 10, 2023 10:37:31 GMT -5
Come on now, Dodgers needed starters they got Lance Lynn and had a deal in place for ERod, we signed a guy off waivers and waived him a game latter. They also added Kelly and a starting level 2nd Baseman, along with Kiké and Braiser. This is not just about the 2023 trade deadline Okay, then don't use just two players they acquired this season and leave out the rest! Go do a list for a few years, I'm willing to bet Bloom makes much more on the margin moves than Dodgers do.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 10, 2023 10:28:14 GMT -5
Come on now, Dodgers needed starters they got Lance Lynn and had a deal in place for ERod, we signed a guy off waivers and waived him a game latter. They also added Kelly and a starting level 2nd Baseman, along with Kiké and Braiser.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 9, 2023 8:21:51 GMT -5
Boutte is more explosive than Thornton based on College tape. This is your classic example of a football player in pads versus a guy in shorts running a crazy fast time. Yeah Thornton in shorts is impressive, but he's crazy raw in pads. Boutte in shorts was bad, but very impressive in pads. Boutte just made the best catch of training camp last practice. He makes crazy catches and has this crazy vision and ability to just glide through the D, like he's not even trying against SEC teams. As Mike Reiss just said he's made one impressive catch every time he's watched him play. I didn’t see much explosion on Boutte’s college tape. I don't exactly know what explosion is for a WR, he did have tons of explosive plays all over his tape. Last 3 games freshman year, versus Bama, Florida and Mississippi, 27 catches 527 yards 4 TDs, 100 yards in each game. Mississippi 14 catches, 308 yards 3 TDs. His whole Sophomore year, which is why he was seen as first round pick, some had him top ten. Last year he struggled coming back from injury with a new coaching staff, but check out Florida and Georgia games. Sec championship game 6 catches 107 yards 1 TD versus Georgia, 53 yard TD that he runs through the whole Georgia secondary for a TD, which just had how many guys drafted.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2023 12:05:49 GMT -5
My numbers were Sportrac, which I know isn't 100%, yet does the same thing for every team so it should be fine for comparing yearly payrolls. I've never heard of the site you posted and have no clue about it. Yeah this is the year you go over it makes sense, last year was the mistake and by getting under this year after going over last year he compounded his mistake last year. My point of DD was the earlier years. Things are just going back to normal when a bunch of teams go over and teams stay over. The system is designed for a bunch of teams to be over every year because revenue grows faster than luxury tax line. They want you to go over, just not go crazy like the Mets. We're closer to average payroll than top 5. If you like that plan, you are saying don't use our best resource, which is money. Doing that, puts you in this situation trying to add pitching at the deadline when prices are crazy! Rather than paying a few million extra per year in offseason. The current LT system is based on the 2002 CBA. From 2003-2021, there were 45 instances of a team paying the luxury tax. That's an average of 2.4 teams per year, or only 1.5 teams per year not named NYY. Boston went over the second most during that span: NYY: 17 BOS: 10 LAD: 6 CHC: 3 DET: 3 SFG: 3 WSH: 2 HOU: 1 LAA: 1 PHI: 1 Last year I think 6 teams paid the tax. The previous high was 5 in 2017. This year it's 8 or 9. More teams have been going over the CBT as time goes on, and even then this year is a clear high water mark. This may be a new normal with the extra wild card slot, but it certainly isn't a return to normal. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_luxury_tax#HistoryCome on now, you can do better! You're including the period when no one went over to protest the new CBA and it skews the results. Take that out and it's exactly as I said. Yeah this is a new normal because of years of the luxury tax not adjusting as much as revenue does. This crazy idea we have to reset, that all came from last CBA and was because big market teams got sick and tired of small market teams always getting more and more. So they stopped spending and look what happened, last CBA was all about players getting more. It worked perfectly.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2023 10:02:10 GMT -5
Our owners allow the GMs to basically do whatever they want, but they have certain strings attached like winning. The NESN money increases a ton when we win and have meaningful games in August and September. I'm positive he's been ordered to win, no way they want another last place finish and no playoffs. They won't order him to do anything specific, but could easily get mad if they feel he's not doing enough to win. Especially saying we needed pitching, then saying it was too expensive, when reports say he could have gotten it for Turner. It's a bad look for not getting the pitching and that Turner was almost traded, which likely doesn't make him happy. Why would our owners be happy right now?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2023 9:52:31 GMT -5
Seeing 4th, 6th, 6th, and 13th this year. Last year they were 3rd in revenue, so yeah there is a horrible trend and issues. There only that high because of DD players. You are right Dodgers and Yankees are top two in revenue, but there are 11 teams in front of us this year and we're third, not even counting the true NESN money! Idk if you have a better source than this, but this indeed looks like the third year since 2002 that we have been below 5th in payroll, the others being 2003 (6th) and 2022 (6th; looked up elsewhere): www.fueledbysports.com/mlb-payrolls/It's not really a horrible trend. We're within $6 million or so of the CBT, which is where we usually are when we don't go over. It's just that 8 or 9 teams are paying the luxury tax this year, which is a lot more than usual. Do you really think we should be paying the tax this year too? It doesn't make sense to go over for the heck of it when the outlook for 2024 and 2025 looks even rosier and teams typically reset penalties after two seasons of paying the tax. We are not this high because of DD's players. On the contrary, we are being hamstrung by Sale's contract in particular, without which the team might already be good enough to justify going over the CBT. My numbers were Sportrac, which I know isn't 100%, yet does the same thing for every team so it should be fine for comparing yearly payrolls. I've never heard of the site you posted and have no clue about it. Yeah this is the year you go over it makes sense, last year was the mistake and by getting under this year after going over last year he compounded his mistake last year. My point of DD was the earlier years. Things are just going back to normal when a bunch of teams go over and teams stay over. The system is designed for a bunch of teams to be over every year because revenue grows faster than luxury tax line. They want you to go over, just not go crazy like the Mets. We're closer to average payroll than top 5. If you like that plan, you are saying don't use our best resource, which is money. Doing that, puts you in this situation trying to add pitching at the deadline when prices are crazy! Rather than paying a few million extra per year in offseason.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2023 9:36:56 GMT -5
Seeing 4th, 6th, 6th, and 13th this year. Last year they were 3rd in revenue, so yeah there is a horrible trend and issues. There only that high because of DD players. You are right Dodgers and Yankees are top two in revenue, but there are 11 teams in front of us this year and we're third, not even counting the true NESN money! and as we all know.. Having a top 5 payroll means guaranteed success for the MLB team... Just ask the Padres and Mets.... Oh wait... this isn't the early 2000's anymore where there were no salary restrains at all... Come on now, the moves I brought up don't make you a top ten team in spending this year!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 8, 2023 9:30:52 GMT -5
It's early, but you likely need to carry 6 WRs and it's funny but your 7th has been Tre Nixon who's been the better deep threat than Thornton so far in camp. I just don’t see them giving up on him so soon, but he's likely your #7 guy right now, went 4/5 practices without a catch. It's why I rated him lower when I watched tape, had a long way to go with his routes and body. I’ll believe it when I see it but I do hope they keep 6 since they won’t cut Thornton and he’s probably a trick play, try to scheme him open type guy. Boutte is nice to see get going, and I think he can be a solid pro but his ceiling is limited by a lack of explosiveness. Boutte is more explosive than Thornton based on College tape. This is your classic example of a football player in pads versus a guy in shorts running a crazy fast time. Yeah Thornton in shorts is impressive, but he's crazy raw in pads. Boutte in shorts was bad, but very impressive in pads. Boutte just made the best catch of training camp last practice. He makes crazy catches and has this crazy vision and ability to just glide through the D, like he's not even trying against SEC teams. As Mike Reiss just said he's made one impressive catch every time he's watched him play.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 16:38:26 GMT -5
Like I said complain about the farm, don't give me crap about money! Example bring back Eovaldi over Kluber, which would have made not trading him a smart move. Dodgers are over for 3rd straight year, Yankees are almost guaranteed to be next year and Mets are going crazy. Last I checked we weren't close to a top 5 spending team. We have Tampa matching contracts for pitchers, rather than going higher! He can go short-term, that's smart, but spend some money and go for it. Get your guys! BTW going over tax line has nothing to do with draft picks unless you go way over or its comp picks. I'm not saying go way over. It has nothing to do with international money, that's signing guys who got QO, not paying luxury tax. The narrative has changed, as I expected it would, it was all about the new CBA discussions. The old days are back. Iirc this is only the second or third season under these owners that the Sox have been out of the top 5 in payroll. Feel free to check me on that - I looked this up for a comment several months ago but I don't have the energy right now. And yes, I was referring to the QO-related benefits, which change based on LT status. Those are relevant in many seasons, including 2021 and 2022, and likely again in 2023. The "way over" penalties are worth keeping an eye on, but not the main point. NYY is in awful shape right now and LAD is able to sustain that only because their farm has been kept topped up. And both are of course bigger markets than Boston; they *should* be spending more. I have no idea what you mean about the narrative. Seeing 4th, 6th, 6th, and 13th this year. Last year they were 3rd in revenue, so yeah there is a horrible trend and issues. There only that high because of DD players. You are right Dodgers and Yankees are top two in revenue, but there are 11 teams in front of us this year and we're third, not even counting the true NESN money!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 16:25:01 GMT -5
Well it’s now august and Eovaldi’s arm is once again dead so I don’t know if that’s the best example It’s also been documented they offered him a good deal, he just tested the market and the Sox didn’t wait around. Seemed like a miscalculation on both sides tbh- Eovaldi thought he could get more and the Sox thought he would get more. Both wrong. There's a 4.9 bwar difference between him and Kluber, 123 innings versus 55 innings. For a difference of $6 million this year. If that's not a good example I don't know what to say to you. 3.4 bwar difference with Zach Eflin for a few million more, say it took 3 year 45 million or 50 million. Bloom went after two huge improvements, yet signed Kluber to the smaller deal. That's his biggest mistake because deadline prices are always crazy, spend the money in the offseason. Those are exactly the type of deals he should be doing compared to Price, Sale and Bogaerts contracts.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 15:35:10 GMT -5
It's early, but you likely need to carry 6 WRs and it's funny but your 7th has been Tre Nixon who's been the better deep threat than Thornton so far in camp. I just don’t see them giving up on him so soon, but he's likely your #7 guy right now, went 4/5 practices without a catch. It's why I rated him lower when I watched tape, had a long way to go with his routes and body.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 15:27:25 GMT -5
For comparison DD had Hanley, Pablo and Pedroia dead money for years, nevermind Craig and Castillo in minors earning bank. Complain about the farm, but we have plenty of money and could easily go over luxury tax line every year and our Owner would still be making a killing. Bloom hasn't used that money, he goes over by a tiny amount after a reset. Which is kinda crazy given most of his deals are short one and two year deals. Example this year, extra starter you have Houck or Whitlock in pen, who then can start for you. If you're the Red Sox GM and stay under the tax line most years, you aren't using your biggest asset which is tons of money! DD also inherited of the greatest young cores the Sox have ever had, while Bloom started with a dead last farm system. You can add value from two places: the farm and in free agency. You can survive dead money if and only if your farm is productive.
Minor league salaries also don't matter for the CBT, so it's not relevant. FSG spent up to and over the CBT threshold throughout the Castillo years.
And at least 29 of 30 owners treat their teams as a business and respect the luxury tax, so it's not really productive to blame FSG for not outdoing all of their competitors year in and year out regardless of how much they make. The Sox are a top 5 franchise in terms of value, but they also nearly always have a payroll in the top 5.
Going over the luxury tax last year was viewed by many as a mistake, but that was the only time Bloom went over. There's not much of a point in going over the tax unless you're going to be a very strong team, though. You might as well maximize your ability to spend when the team is more set up to be competitive, improve your draft picks, have more IFA money available, etc.
Like I said complain about the farm, don't give me crap about money! Example bring back Eovaldi over Kluber, which would have made not trading him a smart move. Dodgers are over for 3rd straight year, Yankees are almost guaranteed to be next year and Mets are going crazy. Last I checked we weren't close to a top 5 spending team. We have Tampa matching contracts for pitchers, rather than going higher! He can go short-term, that's smart, but spend some money and go for it. Get your guys! BTW going over tax line has nothing to do with draft picks unless you go way over or its comp picks. I'm not saying go way over. It has nothing to do with international money, that's signing guys who got QO, not paying luxury tax. The narrative has changed, as I expected it would, it was all about the new CBA discussions. The old days are back.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 11:58:12 GMT -5
We are in gear 4 and this roster is almost entirely Bloom’s at this point. If Sale and his dead money make or break the year than Bloom didn’t do his job. I guess I just don’t understand how you can have a serious conversation about the team building strategy over the past few years without taking into account the fact that the highest paid player on the team, whose contract predates the GM, has provided basically zero value for the entirety of his tenure. $29 million is a lot of money! It’s 1/8th of the luxury tax threshold. And it’s not even all of the dead money he’s been dealing with! For comparison DD had Hanley, Pablo and Pedroia dead money for years, nevermind Craig and Castillo in minors earning bank. Complain about the farm, but we have plenty of money and could easily go over luxury tax line every year and our Owner would still be making a killing. Bloom hasn't used that money, he goes over by a tiny amount after a reset. Which is kinda crazy given most of his deals are short one and two year deals. Example this year, extra starter you have Houck or Whitlock in pen, who then can start for you. If you're the Red Sox GM and stay under the tax line most years, you aren't using your biggest asset which is tons of money!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 10:37:27 GMT -5
I can’t believe their first pre-season game is Thursday. The lack of practice time is something else. Given the recent reports on OT, I hope Mac Jones isn't playing unless things really change over the next few days.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 7, 2023 10:35:53 GMT -5
Patriots may have gotten 5 or 6 starters out of this draft. Gonzalez (no doubter), White (likely future starter), Mapu (no doubter), Sow/Andrews/Mafi (likely one future starter there), Ryland and Barringer (both likely), and Demario Douglas. Insane class, injuries not withstanding. Also took the family to training camp yesterday. Tyquan looked pretty good in 11’s. Don't forget Boutte who per reports has come on the last 4-5 practices, nevermind Bolden getting first team reps and working at punt returning. Sow, Andrews and Speed haven't been generating much noise at least on daily Twitter updates. Those bums lol.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 6, 2023 13:52:07 GMT -5
Trent Brown at practice, not participating again. Anderson seen at practice for first time, but in street cloths.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 6, 2023 12:09:26 GMT -5
You need to look at production, replacements and cap situations. Historically lots of free agent deals are bad and a lot of teams get themselves in cap trouble. So those numbers get skewed.
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