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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 26, 2024 12:08:51 GMT -5
I'm so torn what to do with these next two picks, which is a first for me. Not that I don't like a bunch of players. It's about the vision of who's available later. A few weeks ago I would have said Mitchell and run up the pick. More digging I'm getting George Pickens vipes. I've loved OT Jones for months, hand usage and footwork are easily fixable things. PFF that rates him crazy high, one of the best graded OT in College football just kept lowering his draft grade into the 100s. Not a huge fan of crazy raw OT this high. Safest WR is likely McConkey, he's just not an X WR. It's just hard, I didn't watch anything more than highlight tape on these WR and that doesn't tell you much. JPJ is probably the best OL guy that's crazy safe left. Andrews long-term replacement and OG till then. Appealing to teams who like to run because he's huge for a center. Not a huge fan of just pushing one of Strong or Sow out so quickly and how long does Andrews keep playing? Best player available might be CBs, DT Newton/Fiske and LB Payton Wilson who I just love. Thing is there's good depth at all 3 of those positions later in draft and they aren't big needs. Also think they add a veteran CB after draft and we still have Boden after a red shirt year. Maybe a trade down is the right move. Do we target Walker to give Maye his top target? Guy has massive upside, he's just not the type of WR I normally target. Kinda raw, limited route tree, not a great route runner, had some drops and injuries. I'm just lost, what do you guys think we should do? I'd be interested in seeing what the value of that 2nd round pick is to teams. If you can get a 1st next year, would you consider it? I'd probably take a tackle because I think you can get a good WR in the 3rd. I don't want to trade for anyone who won't be apart of a core 3 years from now. Maybe, but those have become much more rare over the years. I'd love some more picks in the 3rd, 4th and 5th round. I see a drop off starting after the 5th round, then again guys will likely drop. We'll have to wait and see how bad teams want to move up after the Bills likely take a WR.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 26, 2024 11:48:03 GMT -5
I'm so torn what to do with these next two picks, which is a first for me. Not that I don't like a bunch of players. It's about the vision of who's available later. A few weeks ago I would have said Mitchell and run up the pick. More digging I'm getting George Pickens vipes. I've loved OT Jones for months, hand usage and footwork are easily fixable things. PFF that rates him crazy high, one of the best graded OT in College football just kept lowering his draft grade into the 100s. Not a huge fan of crazy raw OT this high.
Safest WR is likely McConkey, he's just not an X WR. It's just hard, I didn't watch anything more than highlight tape on these WR and that doesn't tell you much.
JPJ is probably the best OL guy that's crazy safe left. Andrews long-term replacement and OG till then. Appealing to teams who like to run because he's huge for a center. Not a huge fan of just pushing one of Strong or Sow out so quickly and how long does Andrews keep playing?
Best player available might be CBs, DT Newton/Fiske and LB Payton Wilson who I just love. Thing is there's good depth at all 3 of those positions later in draft and they aren't big needs. Also think they add a veteran CB after draft and we still have Boden after a red shirt year.
Maybe a trade down is the right move.
Do we target Walker to give Maye his top target? Guy has massive upside, he's just not the type of WR I normally target. Kinda raw, limited route tree, not a great route runner, had some drops and injuries.
I'm just lost, what do you guys think we should do?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 26, 2024 11:12:21 GMT -5
It still blows my mind people are upset about getting Maye. He has all the ingredients to be a stud QB. The only real problem is that right now he's just clay and his career will depend on how the Patriots mold him. He needs to sit and work on his weaknesses for the season. The Patriots having one of the better defenses I think can only help him in practice. He's young, big, and has a canon arm and can move in the pocket. I liked when someone referred to Maye as, "Gronk if he was your QB". He's not just clay, that's not what the 2022 tape says. I'd draft him just off his 2023 tape, no question about it. The thing is his 2022 tape is way better with more talent. Too many people only want to judge him off what he did recently. Think Zappe when he got a full week practice starting with talent versus Zappe down two OL guys and a bunch of weapons, no run game being asked to throw every pass at end of the year. It went from wow Zappe is way better to Jones to Zappe sucks also. That's what I see on tape with Maye losing his top two WR, multiple OL starters and OC. His new WR while talented was kinda a one trick pony who's play was very up and down. He missed a bunch of games. His WR drop tons of passes and his OL sucks. He doesn't have time in the pocket and badly misses his great slot WR in Josh Downs. I still want him to sit for a while, but I do fear he's going to push for a starting spot much earlier than people think.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 21:48:06 GMT -5
Wolf is way to focused on trading down and more picks.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 20:39:12 GMT -5
Is a defensive player going to be picked in the first round?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 20:35:12 GMT -5
Now who takes Rattler?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 18:35:29 GMT -5
My late round TE sleeper is Erik All, injury concerns but has been productive at both Michigan and Iowa. Pure receiving type TE type. If you want a late round blocker AJ Barner and Brevyn Spann-Ford. I've seen both described as best blockers in this class, but there isn't any agreements on that as a bunch of players have been called that. Just guys rated to go late 6th to 7th/undrafted. I have strong feelings on this subject, as I used to play TE in HS (badly I would add). (1) TE is a hybrid position. You need to be able to both block and receive. Obviously, players have different balances of the two skill sets, but if a TE sucks at blocking, and he is only going to be used for receiving, then you might as well just put a WR the field. Similarly, if a TE sucks at receiving, and he is only going to be used for blocking, then you might as well just put another OT on the field. (2) the PFF blocking grades for TEs can be a bit deceiving. You have to know who the TE is being asked to block. Unlike other positions, a TE could be regularly asked to block 180 lb defensive backs, or 230 lb LBs, or 270 lb DEs. Of this years TEs: Brock Bowers - excellent receiver. Best YAC guy in the draft. As a blocker, he absolutely mauls DBs and LBs. He is a bit small to handle DEs but he does as well as a 240 lber could possibly do against a DE. I am "wicked pissed" we have so many other needs this year. He would be so much fun to have around for the next decade. JaTavion Sanders - not a blocker Ben Sinnott - a 2nd (or maybe 3rd) rate Brock Bowers. Same strengths and weaknesses (size) but less so. He is good against DBs and LBs and at least puts up a fight against DEs. HE would be ok. Cade Stover - excellent hands but not a great separator. He regularly faces DEs and does a good job. He would be ok. Theo Johnson - not sure. Have not watched his tape. lower round TEs Tip Reiman - big. Good blocker. He can face DEs. At the combine, he did very well in the movement tests. He doesn't look that athletic on the field. Was not used much as a receiver. Might possibly be ok. A.J. Barner - he is a good blocker and can handle DEs. He was not used that much as a receiver. Only 249 yards this year and 99 of those were in one game. Combine was not impressive. Brevyn Spann-Ford - he is big, but not usable as a receiver. This year: 26% drop rate. 28% contested catch rate. I don't agree, heck I'd say most TE in NFL aren't both good receivers and blockers. Plenty of great, good and even average guys had long careers basically being one or the other. You just better be really good at receiving or blocking if that's all you do. Just receiver TE go higher, just blockers should be low picks. You don't put a WR on the field over just a receiving TE because you want the mismatch. CBs can't cover huge TEs, so you get them on safeties and LBers.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 18:27:15 GMT -5
So you have not one example to back up your claims? I just checked a bunch of the top TEs, they all had very good to great production in College. Hunter Henry 4.79 40 is a top ten TE in the NFL production wise if he has a good QB throwing to him. Edit. Zach Ertz 4.76 and Ben Coates 4.95 lol Ben Coates? You silly little goose. Mark Andrews was your best example, and even he had a 7.6 RAS. My examples are pretty much all the best tight ends. The examples of elite testers include Kittle, Kelce, Gronk etc. They all are great testers with better production in the pros. And that will be all on this topic from me. I like Erick All btw This started as elite athleticism matters more than production for NFL success. Then it's good TE, now the best ones lol What are you even saying now? The conversation completely shifted. I don't disagree that if you want an elite or best TE you want a good athlete, but he needs good production also. Henry isn't close to an elite TE, but he's had a ton of NFL success and he's not close to an elite athlete. There's more like him, as you bring up Mark Andrews. There are no elite or best TEs that had Reiman production in College, it's why you can't give a single example. The best example, who's a unicorn is Kittle and his production was still way better. If you want an elite TE, athletic ability and production both matter!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 11:51:13 GMT -5
My late round TE sleeper is Erik All, injury concerns but has been productive at both Michigan and Iowa. Pure receiving type TE type.
If you want a late round blocker AJ Barner and Brevyn Spann-Ford. I've seen both described as best blockers in this class, but there isn't any agreements on that as a bunch of players have been called that. Just guys rated to go late 6th to 7th/undrafted.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 11:30:22 GMT -5
This is good for the Celtics and some fans, playoff basketball is different and we've had problems for years with it. We also won't have the best coach most series. It's not just about talent in playoffs, it's about the team that plays the best, game plans and coaching.
We are just lucky they are down two starters or things could be very interesting.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 11:02:27 GMT -5
You have examples to back that up? Closet recent guy to Tip Reiman RAS score and production wise is Chase Harrell, who hasn't played a single snap in the NFL since 2020 after going undrafted. My examples are every good tight end in the league. You’d be less likely to come up with a single example of a poor athletic tester at tight end becoming an above average starter in today’s NFL. So Reiman is worth a dart throw. Edit: your best example is probably Mark Andrews, who ran a 4.67 at 6’5 256. So you have not one example to back up your claims? I just checked a bunch of the top TEs, they all had very good to great production in College. Hunter Henry 4.79 40 is a top ten TE in the NFL production wise if he has a good QB throwing to him. Edit. Zach Ertz 4.76 and Ben Coates 4.95 lol
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 25, 2024 9:59:29 GMT -5
Tipman at 137? Can you say Dalton Keene? His production over 3 years equal total what he should have in one year to get picked that high. Yes he's a great athlete, better than Keene given his size, but has almost no catching production. His teammate Isaiah Williams slot WR is the guy you want from that program, kinda reminds me of Edelman. I've done enough mocks to know the value of the talent available at 137, it's very good. Falls off a cliff by pick 180. Still you'd have a hard time saying Tipman is great value at pick 180. That's just such a Bill pick, guys excited to play special teams. I just don't see how Tipman at 137 is a dream scenario. Heck a lot of those picks are picking guys early, not getting great value picking them latter. I can get on board with a bunch of them because I love the combination of Baker and Means to rebuild the X position. General rule of thumb, you don't overdraft a guy at a position in this draft that's rated the worst in the whole draft. Sorry still having flashbacks of trading up for Keene. Recent history shows that elite athleticism at tight end matters far more than production when translating NFL success. It’s basically a dart throw. You have examples to back that up? Closet recent guy to Tip Reiman RAS score and production wise is Chase Harrell, who hasn't played a single snap in the NFL since 2020 after going undrafted.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2024 16:18:09 GMT -5
CBS is final rankings, doesn't have date, PFF doesn't have date, but it's the current ranking, Athlon 2 days ago, Sporting current ranking done April 4th, must be waiting till draft day for final update or they aren't doing one.
Athlon draft magazine before combine has him undrafted. Lindys draft magazine before combine has him undrafted, blocking specialist/maybe OL convert. So he certainly moved up in Athlons ranking, which I have no problem with. It's the undrafted maybe 7th round pick to top 100 guy crap that is crazy.
To each there own, for me it's crazy and guys doing it because it's a crazy weak TE class.
I still remember the debates about Keene being the next George Kittle because he tested well.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2024 13:47:53 GMT -5
Athlon 192 CBS 209 PFF 202 Sporting news not in top 200
You can't make a case he should be higher than those grades unless you wanna act like the AL Davis Raiders and it's all just about drafting athletes, not actual football players. I stay away from all crazy high risers after combine if they don't have the production and skill to match it. He's one of the most extreme in the draft.
Dream scenario you get Cade Stover type guy at that pick.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2024 10:43:39 GMT -5
If you want to look at need, looking at this year and next, RB, DE, DT and LB are all sneaky type needs.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2024 10:30:10 GMT -5
Tipman at 137? Can you say Dalton Keene? His production over 3 years equal total what he should have in one year to get picked that high. Yes he's a great athlete, better than Keene given his size, but has almost no catching production. His teammate Isaiah Williams slot WR is the guy you want from that program, kinda reminds me of Edelman.
I've done enough mocks to know the value of the talent available at 137, it's very good. Falls off a cliff by pick 180. Still you'd have a hard time saying Tipman is great value at pick 180. That's just such a Bill pick, guys excited to play special teams. I just don't see how Tipman at 137 is a dream scenario. Heck a lot of those picks are picking guys early, not getting great value picking them latter. I can get on board with a bunch of them because I love the combination of Baker and Means to rebuild the X position.
General rule of thumb, you don't overdraft a guy at a position in this draft that's rated the worst in the whole draft. Sorry still having flashbacks of trading up for Keene.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 24, 2024 1:30:56 GMT -5
Daniels running reminds me of Boutte, he has great vision. He just picks the right paths and angles to knife throw college defenses. No he's not Fields the College version or NFL version. Brian Hoyer with a much better arm meets like Russell Wilson. A much more physically gifted Purdy type. Former 5 star recruit, so he's a good athlete with a good arm. My questions with him, is in that offense you don't see him sitting in the pocket making all the NFL throws. Very good arm, highly mobile, excellent on the run throwing, very good runner. You can watch him go through multiple reads on the run, something you don't see a lot of QBs do. I just absolutely love what he does on the move. He struggled at Auburn playing with bad talent and coaching, something Fields never did. I saw somewhere the only QB to workout for every team in the NFL was Bo Nix. Makes sense, they likely wanted to see what he looks like in the pocket making every NFL type throw. If he can do that, watch out. I don't think anyone has a clue what the Patriots are going to do and that's the way they want it. It's like if Bill was here, multiple scenarios depending on what happens. We've had this debate before and I just don't agree. I love Maye, but I'm also very high on Penix, Nix and Rattler. I like McCarthy, just not crazy high. I love the WRs at the top of the draft. Heck I'd draft Jayden Daniels if we aren't talking top 3 pick. Per reports to trade down they need a godfather type offer, like 3 first round picks is the starting point, plus more and a player. We just don't know who the Patriots player is at QB. What if it's Penix? What if it's Nix? I know what I would do, but there are multiple ways to build great teams. Let's see what they do. I'm crazy excited. I've got this weird feeling Wolf is going to be great, like Bill during the draft minus the head scratching crap. Like people think taking Rodgers with Farve is crazy, but it ends up being brilliant. That's what I'm choosing to believe! That makes sense on Bo Nix. I just think the question for him about his age is his biggest obstacle. I think he's going to fall to an early 2nd round pick, unless the Broncos want to take a shot on him. In regards to the QB, my preference is Caleb (never happening) > Drake > Daniels > JJ > Penix. If they take Penix with the 3rd pick I won't be angry. Maybe a little upset that it wasn't my first choice, but glad they made a choice. If the Patriots are able to slide back a little and still take JJ or Penix, to me it's still not ideal, but they got a guy they like and have pieces around him. Rattler I would love as an insurance policy, but the price on him might be too high (before the 3rd). They'll be able to get a good skill position player in next year's draft, but they need a QB and pray it works out. The WR are very good this year so it is disappointing having to miss out on these kind of play makers. I'd be willing to trade future picks for one, like next year's 1st and this year's 3rd. That way you end up with something like Maye and Nabers to build a foundation around. Almost 30% of Nix passes were behind the line of scrimmage and 65% were 5 yards or less. I'm not making crap up, that's exactly what you see on tape. Why most scouting reports will bring up Oregons offense, it was very unique. The biggest questions are that offense and how he looked at Auburn in a different one, not his age.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 23, 2024 20:40:00 GMT -5
Enough chatter out there that the Pats may pass on Maye. I’m getting sick. Can you post what that chatter is?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 23, 2024 20:37:36 GMT -5
Just my two cents Daniels isn't a better Lamar Jackson. Yes he's more accurate with much better mechanics because Jackson was horrible coming out. He's not the playmaker Jackson was, doesn't come close to having his arm strength, doesn't throw on the run. Jackson is likely the best playmaker college has ever seen. He also put up huge stats passing and running without any NFL talent. Bo Nix has like 4 times the natural talent Hoyer did, while also being that high football IQ guy he was. Goodluck on a great comp, because I've never seen an offense with Oregons with 2/3 short passes to YAC guys and 1/3 bombs, with a QB on the move throwing a ton, plus tons of QB running. He could be really good in the right offense, he's just not likely a fit for every team. I absolutely love the guy. I just wanted to see more in the pocket making NFL throws. It's like he's better on the move going threw reads. The others are fine to good, I especially like the Penix to Rivers comp. That's fair on Daniels. He's more of a down field sprinter rather than some athletic, power runner. I can't think of a better comp, but it's certainly not Apples to apples. Would you say Bo is more like Justin Fields? Admittedly didn't see much of him. I just get the impression he was just older and bigger than the competition. Off-topic, but it really sounds like Daniels is going to Washington. Patriots beat guys are saying they'd be skipping to the podium if Daniels fell to 3. This makes me happy because I'm more of a believer in Drake Maye. With that said, if the Patriots really do believe Maye will be there, I'm a bit nervous they're listening to calls. Supposedly both Washington and New England were called about their pick and only Washington said, "not for sale". I personally respect it because if you believe in the QB and they hit then there's no number of draft picks that would be worth it. It sounds like the Patriots aren't completely sold and could trade out of taking Maye. I don't even care if they love the player or not. I want them to take the QB. I don't think being in love with a QB matters all that much. The Panthers loved Bryce Young over CJ Stroud. The Bears loved Trubisky over Mahomes. The 49ers Supposedly loved both Mac Jones and Trey Lance. Bill Belichick loved Jimmy Garapollo. Really can't wait for Thursday night. Daniels running reminds me of Boutte, he has great vision. He just picks the right paths and angles to knife throw college defenses. No he's not Fields the College version or NFL version. Brian Hoyer with a much better arm meets like Russell Wilson. A much more physically gifted Purdy type. Former 5 star recruit, so he's a good athlete with a good arm. My questions with him, is in that offense you don't see him sitting in the pocket making all the NFL throws. Very good arm, highly mobile, excellent on the run throwing, very good runner. You can watch him go through multiple reads on the run, something you don't see a lot of QBs do. I just absolutely love what he does on the move. He struggled at Auburn playing with bad talent and coaching, something Fields never did. I saw somewhere the only QB to workout for every team in the NFL was Bo Nix. Makes sense, they likely wanted to see what he looks like in the pocket making every NFL type throw. If he can do that, watch out. I don't think anyone has a clue what the Patriots are going to do and that's the way they want it. It's like if Bill was here, multiple scenarios depending on what happens. We've had this debate before and I just don't agree. I love Maye, but I'm also very high on Penix, Nix and Rattler. I like McCarthy, just not crazy high. I love the WRs at the top of the draft. Heck I'd draft Jayden Daniels if we aren't talking top 3 pick. Per reports to trade down they need a godfather type offer, like 3 first round picks is the starting point, plus more and a player. We just don't know who the Patriots player is at QB. What if it's Penix? What if it's Nix? I know what I would do, but there are multiple ways to build great teams. Let's see what they do. I'm crazy excited. I've got this weird feeling Wolf is going to be great, like Bill during the draft minus the head scratching crap. Like people think taking Rodgers with Farve is crazy, but it ends up being brilliant. That's what I'm choosing to believe!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 23, 2024 11:02:55 GMT -5
You just don't like me wording of the tier below Great. I think there's few truly great QBs and a bunch of very good ones. Bledsoe was in the top 10 of a lot of stats when he retired. It doesn't help that Kelly went to UCF for two years instead of NFL and had a rather short career. Also I can't give him credit for being a winner, when he was outplayed in four straight superbowls and never had a good game. He's a huge reason they never won one. That's just my criteria and everyone has different sets. LIke what's your thoughts on Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning? I was quibbling (as stated) with going from All-time great down to very good. I agree the other 2 are all-time greats and think Kelly was certainly below them. I think we agree where they stand, i just thought the initial wording of just very good was a light. Rivers was great Eli was inconsistent but could step up and play top notch football. He’ll easily make the HOF because of his 2 great runs but overall his career is underwhelming in my opinion. Matt Ryan I struggle to label With my system I say Rivers and Ryan were very good and Manning was good, heck maybe a level below. Manning without SB just wasn't anything special. Great for me is either all-time greats or best of your generation. Those guys played with Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 23, 2024 10:55:46 GMT -5
This is my understanding of best case comps. Let me know if I'm way off here. Caleb Williams - Mahomes (but not win the Superbowl every year elite. Similar play style and abilities) Jayden Daniels - A more accurate Lamar. Maybe Michael Vick type. Drake Maye - Blend of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen JJ McCarthy - Alex Smith maybe? Baker Mayfield? Michael Penix - Philip Rivers Bo Nix - Brian Hoyer. Maybe not fair. I'm just not a fan. I see a comp listed for him as Andy Dalton Just my two cents Daniels isn't a better Lamar Jackson. Yes he's more accurate with much better mechanics because Jackson was horrible coming out. He's not the playmaker Jackson was, doesn't come close to having his arm strength, doesn't throw on the run. Jackson is likely the best playmaker college has ever seen. He also put up huge stats passing and running without any NFL talent. Bo Nix has like 4 times the natural talent Hoyer did, while also being that high football IQ guy he was. Goodluck on a great comp, because I've never seen an offense with Oregons with 2/3 short passes to YAC guys and 1/3 bombs, with a QB on the move throwing a ton, plus tons of QB running. He could be really good in the right offense, he's just not likely a fit for every team. I absolutely love the guy. I just wanted to see more in the pocket making NFL throws. It's like he's better on the move going threw reads. The others are fine to good, I especially like the Penix to Rivers comp.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 21, 2024 13:38:18 GMT -5
Drake Maye lost multiple WR and multiple OL to NFL draft last year and his OC. Go watch his tape from two years ago. He's not inaccurate throwing. It's OC asking him to do way too much without the talent needed. Think Zappe end of year with so many top players out and them asking him to throw most plays.
Guys like McCarthy and Daniels against good teams do a ton of easy checkdowns. They didn't do that with Maye, it's go out there and make big plays to win us the game. Same crap you see with Rattler. Overall Maye did rather well in a horrible situation and it's great he got to learn that crap in College. People are docking him for this year and I see it as a big plus. Guys like Williams, Maye and Rattler won't be shell-shocked by the pressure NFL teams bring every game.
You just need to make sure you get the offensive talent level upgrade done before he plays. He's got some issues, every college QB does. He's not as raw as some people think. He's not some major project like Josh Allen, Jordan Love or Anthony Richardson.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 21, 2024 13:19:56 GMT -5
I think he's a level below the greats like Dan Marino and John Elways of his time. Heck his HOF level is about half of the average HOF QB. I agree he’s a step below Marino and Elway who are both top 10 QBs (being conservative) all-time, but very good (and I’m quibbling) is too low. He was excellent. I don’t even know how to compare QB stats across eras anymore, but when he retired he was top 10 in most QB stats. You just don't like me wording of the tier below Great. I think there's few truly great QBs and a bunch of very good ones. Bledsoe was in the top 10 of a lot of stats when he retired. It doesn't help that Kelly went to UCF for two years instead of NFL and had a rather short career. Also I can't give him credit for being a winner, when he was outplayed in four straight superbowls and never had a good game. He's a huge reason they never won one. That's just my criteria and everyone has different sets. LIke what's your thoughts on Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 20, 2024 15:51:29 GMT -5
Draft season is crazy, actually having scouts question how athletic Drake Maye is, wow. Dude this has been going on for a month and a half. It's still as crazy as the first day! There's certainly things to debate with Maye, his athletic ability isn't one of them. He's not less athletic than Justin Herbert, he's a more athletic version of him. Same with Big Ben, he's more athletic. It's a big reason why he's a much better runner than those two in College. I do wonder if it's the same one scout that multiple people are using for different reports.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 20, 2024 14:27:48 GMT -5
Draft season is crazy, actually having scouts question how athletic Drake Maye is, wow.
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