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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 29, 2024 12:03:37 GMT -5
Sure I think 6 WR is in play, if it's warranted. Bourne, Douglas, Osborn, Polk, Baker should be basically locks. So Boutte, Thornton, Reagor and JUJU are fighting for their lives. I'm certainly hoping Boutte shines if that legal crap doesn't take him out of the running. Be interesting to see Thornton with QBs with rockets for arms, same basically for Reagor. Given young QB, planning for the future I don't like Juju chances, but he certainly has the talent. I don't think Juju contract does anything to help him, only how he plays.
It's football so you need to always add injuries could make these decisions easier. Can't rule out a guy like Boutte being placed on injured reserve to keep him and crap like that.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 28, 2024 22:57:07 GMT -5
I think I figured out the Joe Milton pick, start him next year. His wow plays will get people excited and his overall play will put you in position to get a top 5 pick next year. 🤣🤯🤮
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 28, 2024 22:52:10 GMT -5
Do I did a more in depth dive on the undrafted guys, Turner and Fenwick still stand out. Victor has everything you want from a CB besides he runs the 40 like an average LB. Maybe he can land on practice squad and bulk up to become a specialist guarding TEs. Too bad, everything else is great, but 4.7 something speed at CB is horrible. Warren is basically a blocking TE, but bar is rather high for guys like that. Jay Person is a small edge guy with crazy stats, was injured so no testing. He'd have to be fast at his size, maybe like Teddy B. he can convert to LB. The rest I don't see anything that stands out.
They really should start looking at adding some veterans. Edge and RB stand out as rather week. Given they've acted like Bill, I expect they'll continue to add over the next few months.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 28, 2024 16:45:21 GMT -5
Has to be an A for me, you got Drake Maye. Then went out and got talent for him. I like both WR and the TE. We'll see on the OT and OG, those can be very hard to evaluate sometimes. I do love man cover corners with good athletic traits and lots of PD. The only truly head scratching pick was Milton in the 6th and it's a 6th round pick.
I do wonder if they passed on better prospects at positions that weren't big needs. It's just hard to knock them much for that given you need to do everything you can to help Maye. If you believe Wolf, they got the 3 guys they targeted with their first 3 picks. Now it's time to see how good they are at drafting.
One thing I will nitpick is undrafted guys. I would have loved to see them throw around money signing a bunch of the top guys left at positions of need. A few million dollars goes a long way with undrafted free agents. Darn Chiefs got two RBs I really liked. The Murphy Brothers as edge players, a few DT. We'll see but it looks like a rather weak class right now.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 28, 2024 13:42:50 GMT -5
Reiss saying NE had an offer to move up to 32 but Buffalo chose to deal with Carolina instead. With Legette and Coleman going next before NE traded back, his assumption is that 1 of them was the target (and may have had both graded higher than Polk). I certainly hope it was more they wanted the 5th year option. Couldn't get it, so traded down and still got their guy. While also allowing them to get Baker, who is likely gone by the 5th. I'd take Polk over Legette and Coleman. Ricky Pearsall is the guy I wonder if we missed out on. Kinda questionable picks by both Panthers and Bill's in my opinion. Legette is kind raw like Mingo last year and Coleman isn't a speed guy after losing Diggs and Davis
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 28, 2024 13:19:48 GMT -5
10 UDFA's. Usually one sticks on the roster. I wonder which one. No kickers yet. The last guy sucked. The big RB stands out right now and LSU OL.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 22:16:21 GMT -5
It's might be nitpicking that late in the Draft, but Joe Milton is their worst pick for me and it's not even close. We drafted Drake Maye and our coaches don't need to be dealing with a 2nd QB who is so crazy raw. Help Drake Maye or help our D. I think they drafted Milton to have an example for Drake how not to play the position. Because the worst elements of Drake Maye are basically Joe Milton. Edit: in actuality, Milton is a decent developmental fit for Van Pelt’s system. Milton isn't a fit for any NFL offense. He's just like Cunningham, heck maybe worse. 6 years in College at two major programs. Here's one stat that shows how bad he is, 38.6% completion percentage on passes 10 yards or more. Leary or Pratt were much better fits for Van Pelts offense.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 20:33:32 GMT -5
Most upsetting thing of the draft? Why did they pick a CB, should have went 100% offense! Lol 😆 I know you’re joking, but they picked a damn good CB. I don’t find much to hate about this draft other than possibly Polk, good times! It's might be nitpicking that late in the Draft, but Joe Milton is their worst pick for me and it's not even close. We drafted Drake Maye and our coaches don't need to be dealing with a 2nd QB who is so crazy raw. Help Drake Maye or help our D.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 20:29:15 GMT -5
Okay I'll play the what would you change game.
103. Robinson OG replaced with Mohamed Kamara DE
193 Milton QB with Christian Mahogany OG
Stay with helping Drake Maye theme and I absolutely love Kamara as an edge rusher, as Kiper said NFL hasn't figured out the Colorado State edge guys.
Almost went with Kamara at 103, Mekhi Wingo DT at 180 and then Marcellas Dial at 193, I think that's better pure value. Just wanted to make sure Maye has everything he needs and team felt they wanted another OG. I'm just going with a value guy.
Sure I wouldn't have picked everyone they did, but I'll give them trust with most picks. Thing is we need an Edge guy and Kamara value is something I can't pass up. So taking him and an OG over Milton is easy and simple. We don't need another QB, we just drafted Drake Maye!
Watch Robinson turn into an all-pro OG.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 17:53:20 GMT -5
Dial B took him early over better prospects, but man cover CB that's a good athlete. Not good against the run, which is a massive concern if they want him to play FS.
Milton D- Only thing not making it an F, is what he could do for scout team. You passed on better talent and better QBs. Our coaches need to focus on Maye, last thing we needed is maybe the rawest QB in draft.
Bell A+ We needed TE depth, he's a good athlete, long arms, big hands. Can do a lot of different things. Not even close to an inline blocker, but is much better on the move blocking, but needs more consistency. Another weapon for Drake Maye.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 17:28:29 GMT -5
Most upsetting thing of the draft? Why did they pick a CB, should have went 100% offense! Lol 😆
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 16:33:41 GMT -5
Joshua Karty (Stanford) PAT. 72/73 FG < 50yds. 43/45 FG >= 50yds. 8/15 Will Reichard (Alabama) PAT. 295/297 FG < 50yds. 74/87 FG >= 50yds. 10/13 Those are their college career numbers, not just 2023. For comparison here is Chad Ryland's college career. Chad Ryland (E. Mich & Maryland) PAT. 171/176 FG < 50yds. 62/74 FG >= 50yds. 9/15 Edit - Both Reichard and Karty just went. So never mind I mixed up the kickers, was thinking Cam Little, not Karty.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 16:03:31 GMT -5
I'd say Milton has less than 5% chance of making the 53 man roster, this screams practice squad player to develop. He's that raw as a thrower.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 15:59:34 GMT -5
I guess Brugler thinks Milton could try TE if QB doesn't work out. Lol doesn't surprise me one bit, it's like nothing has changed since Bill left.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 15:52:21 GMT -5
Hey Pats if you are listening...at 231 could you take a new kicker...like Joshua Karty maybe. I like the Bama guy, lesser leg but very accurate. Karty reminds me of our kicker.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 15:51:15 GMT -5
I think Pratt and Learly are better, but whatever at this spot. Put him on practice squad and see if you can develop him. Learly has a cannon and is much more polished, but they went pure upside and this isn't a bad spot to do it. Our QB coach better be very good lol.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 15:46:03 GMT -5
Haha CDJ you have your guy.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 14:46:44 GMT -5
Other players I like Caelen Carson CB, DJ James CB, Cedric Johnson DE, Gabriel Murphy DE.
Then RBs Isaiah Davis, Kimani Vidal and Carson Steele.
I also really like Isaiah Williams WR.
So we know they won't take any of these players lol.
Add in DT run stuffers Khristian Boyd and Fabien Lovett.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 14:41:49 GMT -5
I had 29 players a thought were good value top of the 4th round, 3 players are still left Brendan Rice, Malik Washington both WR and Mekhi Wingo DT.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 13:35:00 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 12:06:19 GMT -5
Robinson C+, very good run blocker, needs a ton of work on pass protection. Only played RG. Maybe your extra OL guy on running plays next year. Kinda opposite of Wallace, he needs work on technique.
Baker A+ You get your true X WR, big play machine. TV announcers mentioned drops, those went away after the QB change. I debated him and Walker, Baker is much more polished.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 11:53:54 GMT -5
Now we just need another great 6th round!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 11:44:31 GMT -5
I'm happy with this draft. No idea on the OL men but good to have inside and outside options, and I like the skill players so far. Yeah it's certainly a build around Drake Maye draft.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 11:42:49 GMT -5
I do I have to mention they passed on a bunch of defensive talent I loved to pick another upside OG, Mohamed Kamara, Cedric Grey, DTD the safety and 4 very good CBs.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 27, 2024 11:37:27 GMT -5
Finally, yes!
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