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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 20:58:04 GMT -5
And his last few AAA starts, but forget about that.... And i suppose workman would shut down the astro's? oh wait, he is pitching porly right now. So I guess we should have started workman instead today becuase we knew he would pitch amazing against the Astro's.. JF wouldn't win either way given they both are pitching like shit today Here's the difference: Workman's last few starts have also been very good ... and those were at the major league level! There was reason to believe he could have pitched well tonight, even if he ended up having a lousy start. With Wright, there was little-to-no reason to expect him to pitch well at the major league level. Starting him was a mystifying decision by the Red Sox, and it backfired. Badly. It takes some serious logical contortions to justify Wright's start on the basis that the guy who had to bail his ass out after one inning isn't pitching well either.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 20:59:05 GMT -5
Wow, even Remy is calling out Porter's lousy management.
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 6, 2013 20:59:23 GMT -5
I'm not going to freak out over Napoli K'ing once again with RISP, but frankly I think we can all agree that he shouldn't be hitting 5th. The man is an extremely streaky hitter, and games like the 2HR game vs NYY make Farrell look smart. Unfortunately, for the past 2 months or so, the amount of awful games outweigh those good ones, so Farrell needs to just move him down in the order.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2013 20:59:44 GMT -5
Remy just noted that the Astros are leaving the pitcher in here "trying to get a win" My conspiracy theory says the Astros are leaving him in trying to get a loss...
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 21:01:38 GMT -5
Remy just noted that the Astros are leaving the pitcher in here "trying to get a win" My conspiracy theory says the Astros are leaving him in trying to get a loss...If only. Every manager does this.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 6, 2013 21:04:18 GMT -5
it worked.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 21:04:54 GMT -5
Who was giving some of us a hard time for sweating last night's game? Tellll me more about runs scored this year as we lose a series to the worst team in baseball. Sit on my lap son, it's story time. Well, you see, it all started with a crappy pitcher named Jordan Lyles...
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Post by marrcus on Aug 6, 2013 21:05:12 GMT -5
While Joe sat back and listened Dave O'Brien really took aim at Napoli. He didn't hold much back.
Lavarnway does something positive--wow-- and they step away from this train wreck but there's a way to go yet???
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 6, 2013 21:05:20 GMT -5
Jeff Lunhow: "Allright Bo here's the deal, you lose every game any way possible and we keep you around beyond these crap years"
Bo: "I'm on it"
Yes this scenario seriously keeps popping in my head...
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 21:05:35 GMT -5
Remy just noted that the Astros are leaving the pitcher in here "trying to get a win" My conspiracy theory says the Astros are leaving him in trying to get a loss... They want that first pick again next year. It's all strategery.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2013 21:05:48 GMT -5
The loss now more likely, the Astros are comfortable turning the game over to the bullpen. Remy just noted that the Astros are leaving the pitcher in here "trying to get a win" My conspiracy theory says the Astros are leaving him in trying to get a loss...If only. Every manager does this. I know, the crappy management just happened to coincide with my post on the previous page about the Astros wanting to lose this game.
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Post by jmei on Aug 6, 2013 21:06:16 GMT -5
Who was giving some of us a hard time for sweating last night's game? Tellll me more about runs scored this year as we lose a series to the worst team in baseball. Giggle.
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Post by MLBDreams on Aug 6, 2013 21:07:16 GMT -5
Now, we're leading by one run please use our 3rd pitcher for hold the lead. Please do not throw away the game!
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 21:08:23 GMT -5
The loss now likely, the Astros are comfortable turning the game over to the bullpen. If only. Every manager does this. I know, the crappy management just happened to coincide with my post on the previous page about the Astros wanting to lose as many games as possible. The state of management would be VASTLY improved if you just got rid of the rule requiring five innings for a W and only gave out saves with the tying run at the plate. You'd force managers to dust off their brains and use them.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 21:08:28 GMT -5
Who was giving some of us a hard time for sweating last night's game? Tellll me more about runs scored this year as we lose a series to the worst team in baseball. Sit on my lap son, it's story time. Well, you see, it all started with a crappy pitcher named Jordan Lyles... I'm still concerned. We still have Napoli in the line-up. Porter can't be stupid enough to pitch to him with men on and first open next time up. And hey, Snyder, Middlebrooks went yard again tonight.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2013 21:11:56 GMT -5
FOR SHIKS SAKE WORKMNAN, SHUT DOWN INNING FOR ONCE
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 6, 2013 21:13:16 GMT -5
The loss now likely, the Astros are comfortable turning the game over to the bullpen. I know, the crappy management just happened to coincide with my post on the previous page about the Astros wanting to lose as many games as possible. The state of management would be VASTLY improved if you just got rid of the rule requiring five innings for a W and only gave out saves with the tying run at the plate. You'd force managers to dust off their brains and use them. The five-innings for a W rule, AND saves. For the good of the game, both should be abolished.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 21:13:29 GMT -5
Who was giving some of us a hard time for sweating last night's game? Tellll me more about runs scored this year as we lose a series to the worst team in baseball. Giggle. Cosart tomorrow. I hope he's a mirage, too, but he's been good against some good teams. And that guy last night was a 4thstarter they should've knocked around that silly little hill in center.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 6, 2013 21:14:20 GMT -5
FOR SHIKS SAKE WORKMNAN, SHUT DOWN INNING FOR ONCE The desicion makers left him in the game. As you know they are right.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2013 21:15:23 GMT -5
FOR SHIKS SAKE WORKMNAN, SHUT DOWN INNING FOR ONCE The desicion makers left him in the game. As you know they are right. Workman and RDLR are the only long men in the pen... so he needs shut down innings so we dont fry the pen AGAAIN
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Post by bigpupp on Aug 6, 2013 21:17:55 GMT -5
This game is all sorts of over. Looks like the Sox are about to get swept by the Astros. Just wanted to highlight this post. I wrongfully though that last weeks 9th inning comeback would stop pointless crap like this, at least for a while, but I guess I was wrong... So here's a tip. Next time you want to call the game over (much less the next game as well)......don't.
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 6, 2013 21:19:59 GMT -5
This game is all sorts of over. Looks like the Sox are about to get swept by the Astros. Just wanted to highlight this post. I wrongfully though that last weeks 9th inning comeback would stop pointless crap like this, at least for a while, but I guess I was wrong... So here's a tip. Next time you want to call the game over (much less the next game as well)......don't. It's called the reverse jinx, sweetpea. I say that pretty much every time the Red Sox are losing. Plus, I've been around these parts a long time, so I couldn't care less about your advice.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 21:20:19 GMT -5
The state of management would be VASTLY improved if you just got rid of the rule requiring five innings for a W and only gave out saves with the tying run at the plate. You'd force managers to dust off their brains and use them. The five-innings for a W rule, AND saves. For the good of the game, both should be abolished. But without saves, how are teams supposed to know which relievers to give way too much money to?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 6, 2013 21:21:17 GMT -5
Just wanted to highlight this post. I wrongfully though that last weeks 9th inning comeback would stop pointless crap like this, at least for a while, but I guess I was wrong... So here's a tip. Next time you want to call the game over (much less the next game as well)......don't. It's called the reverse jinx, sweetpea. I say that pretty much every time the Red Sox are losing. Plus, I've been around these parts a long time, so I couldn't care less about your advice. Wait, isn't it just a standard jinx?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 6, 2013 21:24:02 GMT -5
The five-innings for a W rule, AND saves. For the good of the game, both should be abolished. But without saves, how are teams supposed to know which relievers to give way too much money to? thank heavens we didnt overpay for paps
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