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Post by jdb on Aug 6, 2013 10:30:00 GMT -5
Not sure why people are upset about about posters venting while losing to a AA team. The East will be won by a game or so and the Astros should be a sweep.
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Post by ramireja on Aug 6, 2013 10:48:40 GMT -5
Not sure why people are upset about about posters venting while losing to a AA team. The East will be won by a game or so and the Astros should be a sweep. People are upset about the venting, because the degree of panic is palpable and downright ludicrous with some of the posters. Yes, the race for the AL east will be close but that doesn't mean we can or will win every single game played against the sub .500 teams. It just doesn't happen like that. We've probably all watched enough baseball in our lifetimes to realize that, but some apparently can't grasp these concepts. Teams generally aren't built 1-9 without a single flaw, and the top run scoring team in MLB isn't going to score a minimum of 3 runs every single game. I get it....losing to the Astros is not fun, but its one game folks. Let's set a realistic bar. Most of these same posters probably had the Sox pegged to win 80 games this entire year. Its funny how quickly expectations change....but I guess thats what will happen when not one, but two, Megan Fox look-alikes sit on your lap while you continuously post on an online message board....about BASEBALL PROSPECTS.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 6, 2013 11:42:00 GMT -5
Now the thread is really unreadable.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 11:50:49 GMT -5
Not sure why people are upset about about posters venting while losing to a AA team. The East will be won by a game or so and the Astros should be a sweep. People are upset about the venting, because the degree of panic is palpable and downright ludicrous with some of the posters. Yes, the race for the AL east will be close but that doesn't mean we can or will win every single game played against the sub .500 teams. It just doesn't happen like that. We've probably all watched enough baseball in our lifetimes to realize that, but some apparently can't grasp these concepts. Teams generally aren't built 1-9 without a single flaw, and the top run scoring team in MLB isn't going to score a minimum of 3 runs every single game. I get it....losing to the Astros is not fun, but its one game folks. Let's set a realistic bar. Most of these same posters probably had the Sox pegged to win 80 games this entire year. Its funny how quickly expectations change.... but I guess thats what will happen when not one, but two, Megan Fox look-alikes sit on your lap while you continuously post on an online message board....about BASEBALL PROSPECTS. It's my carrying tool. ADDED: In our preseason poll on this site I picked the Sox to go to the World Series, as well.
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 6, 2013 12:07:16 GMT -5
[/quote]It's my carrying tool.
ADDED: In our preseason poll on this site I picked the Sox to go to the World Series, as well. [/quote]
As did I. Not all posters on this site are eternal pessimists. I'll change it up a little bit and say that I'm completely fine with the complaining, as long as there is a basis for the complaints.
When posters say "our lineup sucks, we need an overhaul because we can't hit Houston pitching", that bothers me simply because its an obnoxious generalization. But the main complaints on this board have been: A) This lineup continues to struggle against LHP B) Holt/Snyder is a terrible idea at 3B C) Mike Napoli blows
I'm fine with all of these complaints because WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO ALL THEEE IN OUR SYSTEM! A & B...meet Xander Bogaerts, C...meet Mike Carp.
If someone has a realistic complaint, I have no problem with it being shared. When Napoli K'd late in the game with RISP, I sadly came to this board to have someone to relate to (lol).
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 12:25:30 GMT -5
It's my carrying tool. ADDED: In our preseason poll on this site I picked the Sox to go to the World Series, as well. [/quote] As did I. Not all posters on this site are eternal pessimists. I'll change it up a little bit and say that I'm completely fine with the complaining, as long as there is a basis for the complaints. When posters say "our lineup sucks, we need an overhaul because we can't hit Houston pitching", that bothers me simply because its an obnoxious generalization. But the main complaints on this board have been: A) This lineup continues to struggle against LHP B) Holt/Snyder is a terrible idea at 3B C) Mike Napoli blows I'm fine with all of these complaints because WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO ALL THEEE IN OUR SYSTEM! A & B...meet Xander Bogaerts, C...meet Mike Carp. If someone has a realistic complaint, I have no problem with it being shared. When Napoli K'd late in the game with RISP, I sadly came to this board to have someone to relate to (lol). [/quote] This completely. If you are on the road or can't be in a bar with your buds, or one of the Meghan Fox stunt doubles on your lap is a Rays fan who prefers talking about xFIP of their staff, where else can you go but a game thread to vent? It probably saves a lot of lives. In fact, I recall reading that a lack of a thread like this is basically how World War II started in Europe, only it was soccer instead of baseball.
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 6, 2013 13:10:22 GMT -5
Red Sox rank in OPS by batting spot among AL Teams: 5: 7th 6: 3rd 7: 1st 8: 4th 9: 5th Carp should see more playing time against right-handers, sure. But the idea that the bottom half of the Red Sox lineup is some sort of black hole just doesn't hold up. A .770 OPS from a player in the bottom third is fantastic. We're still spoiled from the days of Bill Mueller batting 8th. Ya, but they don't LOOK the part!
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 6, 2013 15:17:21 GMT -5
Not sure why people are upset about about posters venting while losing to a AA team. The East will be won by a game or so and the Astros should be a sweep. Why because you say so? The Sox are winning a little less 60% of their games. The Astros lose about 66% of their games. What's so difficult to understand about that? That means The Sox lose four out of ten while the Astros will win about a third of the time. Do the arithmetic. The idea that any series should be a sweep, automatically, and that a team should get pounded and hounded if they don't do as you wish is childish. Last month the lowly Astros beat the Orioles, the Rangers, the Athletics, and the Rays twice. Get real.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 6, 2013 15:53:22 GMT -5
Not sure why people are upset about about posters venting while losing to a AA team. The East will be won by a game or so and the Astros should be a sweep. Why because you say so? The Sox are winning a little less 60% of their games. The Astros lose about 66% of their games. What's so difficult to understand about that? That means The Sox lose four out of ten while the Astros will win about a third of the time. Do the arithmetic. The idea that any series should be a sweep, automatically, and that a team should get pounded and hounded if they don't do as you wish is childish. Last month the lowly Astros beat the Orioles, the Rangers, the Athletics, and the Rays twice. Get real. Actually Norm my angst last night was exactly in line with your thinking - it is very difficult to sweep a team, which is why last night was so frustrating given that you have a rookie who has been hot and cold starting tonight and Cosart going against Dempster Weds. Against teams like the Astros the Sox should win 2 of 3. Anything more than that is pure gravy. But losing last night in such an offensively ignominious way makes such an outcome significantly more difficult to do now. And next up we have a four game set with KC, which will include James Shields and Ervin Santana, who seems to become vintage Johan Santana whenever he pitches against the Sox.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 6, 2013 16:05:29 GMT -5
So... Lavarnway getting a start. Salty can't be bothered to catch knuckleballs I guess?
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 6, 2013 16:27:08 GMT -5
Now the thread is really unreadable. I actually read these threads on and off and I had to read this thread because I was wondering how the hell one game against Houston got to six pages. To me one of the things that makes the difference in what you think about the ranting here is whether you're watching the game as you read it or if you watch the game and read it after. If you watch it as you read it you tend to understand the rants more.
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Post by godot on Aug 6, 2013 16:44:44 GMT -5
So... Lavarnway getting a start. Salty can't be bothered to catch knuckleballs I guess? Good time to rest Salty. You can get beat up pretty good catching or trying to catch the knuckle ball, assuming, of course, Wright goes mores than few innings
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 6, 2013 17:43:22 GMT -5
Now the thread is really unreadable. I actually read these threads on and off and I had to read this thread because I was wondering how the hell one game against Houston got to six pages. To me one of the things that makes the difference in what you think about the ranting here is whether you're watching the game as you read it or if you watch the game and read it after. If you watch it as you read it you tend to understand the rants more. You and me both. I hadn't bothered looking at the thread till I got around to checking out the game after work and chores. When I saw four, five, then six pages I figured out quickly what had gone down. I'm sure you're right, minute by minute frustrations take immediate form on this thing. Again, the team will not win every night, and the Astros' pitcher, Oberholtzer, had a decent K/BB ratio at his last stop in OKC. It looks like he might have some chops. Perspective, people, perspective.
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Post by jdb on Aug 6, 2013 19:08:02 GMT -5
/quote]Why because you say so? The Sox are winning a little less 60% of their games. The Astros lose about 66% of their games. What's so difficult to understand about that?
That means The Sox lose four out of ten while the Astros will win about a third of the time. Do the arithmetic. The idea that any series should be a sweep, automatically, and that a team should get pounded and hounded if they don't do as you wish is childish. Last month the lowly Astros beat the Orioles, the Rangers, the Athletics, and the Rays twice. Get real. [/quote]
I think you missed my point. I agree with you but it still sucks in the moment when we're losing to a team on paper who we should beat. I don't think I posted in the thread until then but was only stating why I thought people were upset. We all know anyone in baseball can win any given game but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck when it's happening. Heck the mods in the first post in every series thread said they're more liberal with board rules bc of the emotions.
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Post by charliezink16 on Aug 6, 2013 19:10:17 GMT -5
First knuckleballer not named Tim to start for Boston since...Charlie Zink. Oh the memories :0
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Post by atzar on Aug 6, 2013 19:27:56 GMT -5
What a disaster for Lavarnway. Getting embarrassing.
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Post by jfizznet on Aug 6, 2013 19:30:26 GMT -5
Over/under on passed balls tonight?
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 6, 2013 19:31:43 GMT -5
This is why you don't throw away games but spot starting a AAAA pitcher.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 19:31:59 GMT -5
If this continues, either Salty needs to catch or Workman needs to get warmed up. If they wanted an extra day of rest for their starters, why didn't they start Workman? He had great success in his first three starts. He really doesn't need to be moved to the 'pen. He has the stuff and stamina to start. To me, he is a #3 starter now. Wright, even with his success in the bullpen, really doesn't have good control.
This game is getting worse with every at-bat.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 6, 2013 19:33:38 GMT -5
I can't believe they're throwing away games to the astros like this. Absolutely no reason Steven Wright should be starting tonight.
Farrell must really want to play in that one game playoff.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2013 19:34:24 GMT -5
This reminds me of when Josh Bard tried to catch Wakefield.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 6, 2013 19:36:19 GMT -5
This is a fucking joke.
John Farrell should be ashamed.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 6, 2013 19:36:50 GMT -5
Clearly Lavarnway should not be catching Wright.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 6, 2013 19:37:38 GMT -5
Clearly Wright shouldn't be pitching.
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Post by station13 on Aug 6, 2013 19:38:44 GMT -5
Fuck you Farrell.
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