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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 11, 2013 13:56:00 GMT -5
Is Lackey going to hold anyone on?
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2013 14:02:43 GMT -5
You're shitting me. After that great first inning against Shields, these DPs are killer.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2013 14:04:47 GMT -5
Is Lackey going to hold anyone on? That's not customary on his planet, apparently.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2013 14:11:25 GMT -5
Astros stole 5 bases in 6 attempts on his last start.
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Post by dfwsox on Aug 11, 2013 14:12:15 GMT -5
Cruise missile there by Gorden, damit. Middlebrooks at 3rd helps this team with his defense, hopefully he can get on a run at the plate, his approach has looked good so far.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 11, 2013 14:14:45 GMT -5
It's gonna be a long day.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2013 14:14:52 GMT -5
Go Dodgers. Go Giants.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 11, 2013 14:27:32 GMT -5
Clay can't come back soon enough. About to lose 3/4 then throw Dempster out there to get slaughtered on Tuesday.
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Post by dfwsox on Aug 11, 2013 14:33:25 GMT -5
Clay can't come back soon enough. About to lose 3/4 then throw Dempster out there to get slaughtered on Tuesday. Still early, we got some time to get this.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 11, 2013 14:33:31 GMT -5
We blew this series on Friday Night. A 6-3 lead after 5 with Peavy on the mound. We've given Britton a lot of grief for that outing. But, he made an outstanding pitch to Hosmer on a 2-2 count. Slider that was low and away. Dribbled a grounder between shortstop and 3b. I know we're supposed to be a scared of Big Game James. But, if there's anything this year's team has taught us. Is that it's never over until it's over.
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Post by bjb406 on Aug 11, 2013 14:38:33 GMT -5
since coming back WMB has a BB/k ratio of infinity
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 11, 2013 15:02:21 GMT -5
I can't stand any of these Rays/Ex-Rays pitchers and their mannerisms. Garza, Shields, Price, Archer. Yo Big Game, when a batter stays back on your change-up and rifles it down the 3b lie for a hit. Don't look so bleepin incredulous. Bleep you!
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:10:14 GMT -5
Thinking about what the Redsox are doing with Lavarnway this year. With Ross coming back soon Lavarnway gets sent back down. They keep playing him against one stud pitcher after another and he has actually played well overall if you look at his numbers. CERA, average, better CS than Salty. Hitting over .260 now against a series of studs. He has been fine. It doesn't look to me like they are grooming him for a trade. He looks to me to be in their plans going forward. They just are not in a hurry. The other day when he had the 4 passed balls, Farrell called his hit key for that game, supporting him. I think they like him overall, but it's tough to see that from the pitchers he's facing.
I think they just look at his situation and think he can be sent up and down and is valuable to them as an injury backup. It gives him even more time to develop. And they need that kind of guy since catchers get injured so much. It's prudent personnel management. At the same time, they seem to be fattening up Salty's numbers, hoping he warrants a QO.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 11, 2013 15:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:13:57 GMT -5
Pitchers have forced Lavarnway to take away his pop by nibbling him on the outside corner and then busting him inside. Throwing on the outside corner over and over and then busting him in. Shields may have thought that Lavarnway would not be looking for a change up inside in that situation. The book seems to be that he has given up on pulling the ball. Well that at bat seemed to indicate a change in attitude.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 11, 2013 15:15:04 GMT -5
Some good news - Mariano Rivera just blew a save against the Tigers, giving up homers to Miggy and Vmart.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:15:32 GMT -5
It was at 3.8 until his game with the knuckleball rookie the other day. Better than Salty's. Extremely small sample size of 10 games but it has not been a problem. Don't know what it is now.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2013 15:16:31 GMT -5
John Farrell writes the lineups, not the front office (as evidenced by the spotty use of the platoon advantage and lag in moving Napoli lower in the order). The most likely explanation for the reliance on Saltalamachia is that Farrell thinks he's a much better player than Lavarnway, not to showcase him or whatever. Frankly, I agree.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:16:58 GMT -5
Not saying Lavarnway is a game calling genius. Just saying it hasn't been a problem so far this year, from any data point.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2013 15:18:30 GMT -5
Some good news - Mariano Rivera just blew a save against the Tigers, giving up homers to Miggy and Vmart. The Yankees aren't making the playoffs anyways while the Tigers have moved past the Red Sox for best record in the AL and home field advantage in the playoffs. Why is this good news?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 11, 2013 15:18:58 GMT -5
It was at 3.8 until his game with the knuckleball rookie the other day. Better than Salty's. Extremely small sample size of 10 games but it has not been a problem. Don't know what it is now. I don't care what it is, it's just a bad stat.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2013 15:21:44 GMT -5
It was at 3.8 until his game with the knuckleball rookie the other day. Better than Salty's. Extremely small sample size of 10 games but it has not been a problem. Don't know what it is now. This is such a small sample size as to be literally useless. Especially when you arbitrarily decide to remove a data point (not that the data would be any more useful with the Wright start included). I would say the same thing even if Lavarnway's CERA was five runs worse than Saltalamacchia's.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:25:31 GMT -5
John Farrell writes the lineups, not the front office (as evidenced by the spotty use of the platoon advantage and lag in moving Napoli lower in the order). The most likely explanation for the reliance on Saltalamachia is that Farrell thinks he's a much better player than Lavarnway, not to showcase him or whatever. Frankly, I agree. I was trying to explain why they were almost never using Lavarnway. People here were saying he's probably DFA material at some point. I think they do want to play Salty more but I don't think the discrepancy between them is that much and why would they always start Lavarnway only against a stud opposing pitcher? They should be putting their best lineup out there against the best opposing pitchers, and most of those stud pitchers have actually been RH ( something like 6 of 9 if I remember correctly ). Do they go to Salty and just ask him how he feels, he looks at the schedule and thinks 'Man, I don't want to face David Price" so he asks for a break? I don't think that would fly. Is it just completely random. That is certainly possible. It could also be that they just look at Lavarnway as their injury depth guy for a couple years and that is a decent approach for them? He's controllable and cheap and a decent injury depth catch for a team like the Sox. A project still to a degree. I think the Sox still think he is of value. They just have him in a very appropriate roll for their team and situation.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2013 15:30:49 GMT -5
Lackey makes it through 7 and gives the Red Sox a chance to win the game despite not having his best stuff. His velocity was down today and the ankle may still be bothering him.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 11, 2013 15:31:05 GMT -5
I did say it was an extremely small sample size, and agree that it doesn't prove anything. At the same time, I don't see any indication though that his game calling ability is hurting the team, or keeping him out of the lineup. And he is hitting ok and throwing out runners better than Salty. Why is he getting so little PT then? Is it because they think he stinks and just isn't able to contribute? Do they think he is near worthless? I think a better explanation is that he is looked at as a project still and is an injury depth guy they can sit in the minors until they need him for several years, and yes they are probably playing Salty because they think he is a much better player. I think they are off target in that assessment though. Lavarnway warrants more PT and has warranted it for a while.
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