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Evaluating the 2014 AL East
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 26, 2014 17:04:50 GMT -5
claydavenport.com/?p=207East Won Lost Runs Runs A Champ Wild Card Net Playoff Tampa Bay 90 72 698 618 45.8 19.1 65.0 Boston 86 76 723 680 22.8 19.2 42.0 NY Yankees 85 77 683 646 21.6 18.8 40.4 Toronto 78 84 720 749 5.9 7.8 13.7 Baltimore 77 85 693 733 3.9 5.5 9.4
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 26, 2014 17:17:36 GMT -5
Can we stop this stuff about lucky, or everything going right, or the Sox were destined or whatever. The Red Sox underperformed their pythag, that's not lucky. The Red Sox were a juggernaut. They had an above average player at every position except for 3B, and they had great depth. Dempster was worse than expected but Doubront was good. That's good depth not luck. The Red Sox saw something in Victorino, Napoli, and Drew that other teams didn't see. That's not luck, that's smart FO decisions. The Red Sox are basically a picture-perfect organization. They have everything an organization wants to have. They have a great team that just win the world series, tons of money to spend, a very smart front office, and a good farm system. That's why they won last year. They didn't win because of luck or destiny or whatever. And they did have injuries. Drew was injured for a little bit, Ellsbury got injured, Pedroia was injured all year but played through it, Victorino was injured, Clay was pitching fantastic, and got injured for most of the season. The Red Sox won because they have a great organization and will have everything they had last year next year. Except the part about having tons of money to spend and the names of specific players the above paragraph could describe the Atlanta Braves teams of the 1990s and beyond. They did so many things right, too, but they only have one championship in that time to their credit. There's so much that's involved. Cherington could very well build a better long-term team with a younger core in the upcoming years and still not be as ultimately successful - after all you can't top what the 2013 Red Sox did, but I'll be very interested in watching how things play out. Hopefully the Sox take advantage of the chances that I believe they will have. Thinking of that paragraph above it makes me very thankful that the Sox have done a great job playing October baseball and have done a good job seizing the brass ring when it's been there to grab. Hasn't always been like that. (Thank you David Ortiz.)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 26, 2014 17:21:38 GMT -5
Personally I am tired of listening to Masserati on 98.5. He said that the MFY getting Tanaka made them the favorites and the Sox are doing nothing this offseason because there taking advantage of winning it all. Now let's look at the MFY's. At 1b Tex is coming back from an injury and a year older . 2b Cano is gone . SS Jeter is a year older coming back from injury. 3b ARod is suspended so far. C McCann good signing. Of you have Ells, Beltran ( who is close to 40 3 year deal), Ichiro ( another year older), Ratner and Soriano . DH , Hafner. P Tanaka, Cc, Kuroda ( older), Nova, Pineda ( I guess ). Bullpen , No Mariano. I mean I am not trying to hate on this team but for the money they spent they have a ton of questions still. There happy Arod is gone but his production is gone also. Cano was a great player. Mariano was a lockdown save. Even the starting rotation isn't that great. There best prospect is a catcher. So my conclusion is Mass is saying this to be a shit starter or he really hates the Red Sox but I am questioning his credibility. I love what the Sox are doing. You can't win with the Boston media. I used to like Tony Mazz, but I think ever since the Sox didn't sign Teixeira he's been ticked off at the Sox and pretty miserable about them and now with the radio gig he and Felger try to top each other with ridiculous overstatements. All in the name of ratings. Who knows what he actually believes? I enjoyed his book in 2008 that came out. I think it was Red Sox dynasty or something like that. Actually what's shocking to me is that I've heard of no book being written about the 2013 Sox by any of the local scribes or anybody else which is quite surprising - you think with the inspirational/comeback story they were somebody would want to delve into it, get with the details and some behind the scenes stuff and put together a book that does justice to the 2013 Sox or at least try to.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 26, 2014 19:06:49 GMT -5
If you're listening to sports talk radio to get an informed, objective, intelligent take, you're doing it wrong, guys.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 26, 2014 19:16:02 GMT -5
I think we all owe a debt of gratitude to Botox Bobby V. Without his level of leadership, this much of a turnaround would never have been possible.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jan 26, 2014 19:22:47 GMT -5
If you're listening to sports talk radio to get an informed, objective, intelligent take, you're doing it wrong, guys. Exactly. I've given up on listening to WEEI and 98.5 for some time, due largely to the"sky-is-falling" routine these radio guys do. I sometimes tune in only to get news updates on breaking sports stories when I'm in the car. If you have XM, the MLB network is very good, though not Red Sox centered. At least the callers are screened for their knowledge of the subject and ability to articulate an opinion.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 26, 2014 19:33:56 GMT -5
... Actually what's shocking to me is that I've heard of no book being written about the 2013 Sox by any of the local scribes or anybody else which is quite surprising - you think with the inspirational/comeback story they were somebody would want to delve into it, get with the details and some behind the scenes stuff and put together a book that does justice to the 2013 Sox or at least try to. There's a book in there, but it would be a bit more nerd-oriented than the triumphant stuff that came out in the 2000s. The story would be about how a team with some design flaws and a bunch of injuries, tanked badly only to be saved by a tidal wave of money from the West Coast. That surge of cash was used to re-structure the team in ways that added real value (for the most part), with a good to better player at just about every position and, in many cases, two or three of them. There would be lots of room for a survey of the market, the pressures to "go big", and the decision to stick with a specific plan. You'd want to add to that an in-depth examination of the minor league system, and the decisions that were made to move players into positions where they could play a role at season's end. In fact, I'd have that in a separate chapter, starting with a historical perspective from the class that Pedroia graduated with, then move it forward to the emerging riches. That could easily merge into the remainder of the book as the season's narrative unfolds to the WS climax. It would be an insider's look at the painful reassessment and the resulting decisions, and how that led to another championship. It would have to be really well researched, from the inside. That means getting the ok from management and ownership for interviews and candid assessments. That's not an easy book to write and it's probably beyond the bulk of the current Sox media contingent.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jan 26, 2014 19:43:33 GMT -5
I think we all owe a debt of gratitude to Botox Bobby V. Without his level of leadership, this much of a turnaround would never have been possible. I still believe the reason Lucchino and his staff pushed for Bobby V was to clear out the club house and clean the air for a new start. Everyone bashes him but the man is actually pretty smart and if true they needed to cleanup the clubhouse who better to take it for the office than Larry as it was him who stepped in at the last minute sort of to push for Cranky BV to headline. If they would of had a players coach or a young guy none of the Punto trade would of set well with the media nuts in town.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 26, 2014 21:18:26 GMT -5
... Actually what's shocking to me is that I've heard of no book being written about the 2013 Sox by any of the local scribes or anybody else which is quite surprising - you think with the inspirational/comeback story they were somebody would want to delve into it, get with the details and some behind the scenes stuff and put together a book that does justice to the 2013 Sox or at least try to. There's a book in there, but it would be a bit more nerd-oriented than the triumphant stuff that came out in the 2000s. The story would be about how a team with some design flaws and a bunch of injuries, tanked badly only to be saved by a tidal wave of money from the West Coast. That surge of cash was used to re-structure the team in ways that added real value (for the most part), with a good to better player at just about every position and, in many cases, two or three of them. There would be lots of room for a survey of the market, the pressures to "go big", and the decision to stick with a specific plan. You'd want to add to that an in-depth examination of the minor league system, and the decisions that were made to move players into positions where they could play a role at season's end. In fact, I'd have that in a separate chapter, starting with a historical perspective from the class that Pedroia graduated with, then move it forward to the emerging riches. That could easily merge into the remainder of the book as the season's narrative unfolds to the WS climax. It would be an insider's look at the painful reassessment and the resulting decisions, and how that led to another championship. It would have to be really well researched, from the inside. That means getting the ok from management and ownership for interviews and candid assessments. That's not an easy book to write and it's probably beyond the bulk of the current Sox media contingent. I think that's a good assessment and I feel it's a worthy endeavor awaiting the right author and I hope that it happens. I would add that I think there's still more layers to the Red Sox other than the analytical examinations of how the team was built, the circumstances, etc. I think the players themselves, beyond the stats, are worth a closer look. There was a ballsy element to this club, a certain guts, something not even found in the numbers that was unique about this ballclub. Numbers don't capture what Johnny Gomes gives the Sox (I know there are probably a bunch of eye rolls there and snickers), but ask his manager or his teammates about him. Ask about David Ross, his work with the pitching staff, Nava, Lackey and his comeback in perception, etc. Then there's the bond forged between team and city in the face of tragedy. There are so many areas to examine that can weave the statistical analysis with the story of the ballplayers themselves, an interesting mix of guys who I think totally "get" Boston and have a deep appreciation for the city, for their teammates, and the game itself. There's a really good book to write and I hope somebody worthwhile tackles the subject. The 2013 Red Sox deserve to be written about in more than just a capsule-like commemorative type book/magazine.
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Post by taftreign on Jan 28, 2014 19:00:04 GMT -5
Buster Olneys early playoff picks. (Insider piece) insider.espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/post?id=4595Saying the Yankees are in a rare position to take on large salary at the deadline is not false but to propose that they could add Tulowitzki if he became available is far fetched not because of finances but they have very very limited prospects and not enough to equal the cost needed to pry him away.
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