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2014 MLB Post-Draft Discussion Thread
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 7, 2014 15:41:39 GMT -5
Some of the guys here that generally are "in the know" had him early on predicted to possibly sign for anywhere from 150-200k. No idea if anything has changed in his commitment to school situation, the Sox spending situation etc.. Maybe Boston is just waiting on another kid 1st with the little they have left before going back to him.. It's just been quiet, why was asking.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 7, 2014 16:09:03 GMT -5
Is Pennington officially out then? Has he turned down the Sox offers for good that has been leaked out? I'd think they possibly have a decent chance of him signing with the TJ chance and that amount left of any of the kids left. Hasn't he been signed for a long time? He announced his intention to sign (as "a dream come true") after his TJ surgery, which was scheduled for June 23. His pic on Twitter is him with Dr. James Andrews, apparently just post-surgery, and he labels himself "Boston Red Sox prospect." (He's also mentioned going to rehab.) He's been re-tweeting various Sox-themed tweets, too. He reportedly signed for $100K or less. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 7, 2014 16:12:01 GMT -5
Hasn't he been signed for a long time? He announced his intention to sign (as "a dream come true") after his TJ surgery, which was scheduled for June 23. His pic on Twitter is him with Dr. James Andrews, apparently just post-surgery, and he labels himself "Boston Red Sox prospect." (He's also mentioned going to rehab.) He's been re-tweeting various Sox-themed tweets, too. He reportedly signed for $100K or less. Yet the Red Sox did not announce him with the rest of the signed draft picks... |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 7, 2014 16:46:32 GMT -5
He announced his intention to sign (as "a dream come true") after his TJ surgery, which was scheduled for June 23. His pic on Twitter is him with Dr. James Andrews, apparently just post-surgery, and he labels himself "Boston Red Sox prospect." (He's also mentioned going to rehab.) He's been re-tweeting various Sox-themed tweets, too. He reportedly signed for $100K or less. Yet the Red Sox did not announce him with the rest of the signed draft picks... That's just it.. Why wait until after the surgery to sign the contract? The bonus would still have to go under the current year's allotment it would seem. Pennington would be the only one at risk if anything (God forbid) went wrong with the surgery. I just can't see why the deal wouldn't be announced if the figure was in place already. It's a new one on me if it is, though I hope they do have him signed. Thanks guys. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 7, 2014 16:47:26 GMT -5
Just in case he loses the arm during surgery. Hell, I don't know.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 7, 2014 16:49:27 GMT -5
Yeah, he's been signed. $100k - so no overslot amount that has to be allocated to the pool.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 8, 2014 13:27:22 GMT -5
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 8, 2014 14:30:03 GMT -5
I love Kevin Steen's middle name: DeVarious.
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Post by ctfisher on Jul 8, 2014 15:44:00 GMT -5
In the late 90's I heard on ESPN that if you were an up and coming HS pitcher and you had the choice that you actually should have the TJ surgery because you actually come back stronger. Take into account years of improvement in the surgery and rehab process and it's not a dealbreaker anymore by any means. Sure, it's not 100% but also take into account a few extra less miles on the shoulder in an unprofessional environment and like you said, how much time do they really lose? It's a myth that's perpetuated by how hard most people work rehabbing their arm. They become stronger because they work harder at getting strong. But TJS takes at least 18 months away and then limits innings by a great deal for young kids for 2-3 years after they're back. For example, RDLR is 26 and limited to about 130 innings this year. Yea but he wasn't high school age when he got TJ- he was what 22? He would've been either a college junior or senior in terms of age, so the concern for his development time would be greater- had he been 18, he would be at a normal-ish workload by 21 again by conservative estimates, which is perfectly reasonable, especially cause that's assuming that he would've been getting some pro experience while being eased back from rehab |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 8, 2014 15:50:39 GMT -5
It's a myth that's perpetuated by how hard most people work rehabbing their arm. They become stronger because they work harder at getting strong. But TJS takes at least 18 months away and then limits innings by a great deal for young kids for 2-3 years after they're back. For example, RDLR is 26 and limited to about 130 innings this year. Yea but he wasn't high school age when he got TJ- he was what 22? He would've been either a college junior or senior in terms of age, so the concern for his development time would be greater- had he been 18, he would be at a normal-ish workload by 21 again by conservative estimates, which is perfectly reasonable, especially cause that's assuming that he would've been getting some pro experience while being eased back from rehab Regardless of RDLR, maybe not a good example. TJS puts a young pitcher behind because they don't throw anywhere near as many innings as someone of a similar age who doesn't have it. Not only do they miss the 12-18 months, but they also throw a lot less when they get back. You pretty much need the innings to develop. |
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Post by mabrowndog on Jul 9, 2014 9:38:38 GMT -5
Hasn't he been signed for a long time? He announced his intention to sign (as "a dream come true") after his TJ surgery, which was scheduled for June 23. His pic on Twitter is him with Dr. James Andrews, apparently just post-surgery, and he labels himself "Boston Red Sox prospect." (He's also mentioned going to rehab.) He's been re-tweeting various Sox-themed tweets, too. He reportedly signed for $100K or less. While there is certainly a preponderance of evidence to suggest Pennington and the club have reached an agreement of sorts, there's still been no announcement by the Red Sox of an official signing. Nor have any of the more reputable national or team reporters (Callis, Mayo, Fitt, Manuel, Badler, Rogers, Law, Cotillo, Speier, et al) conveyed news of even an informal agreement pending red tape. So if you could provide a source, and/or a link, for any such "report" I'm sure we'd all be the wiser for it. |
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Post by mabrowndog on Jul 9, 2014 9:39:56 GMT -5
Yeah, he's been signed. $100k - so no overslot amount that has to be allocated to the pool. Again, can you cite a source for this please? Thanks. |
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 10, 2014 5:37:14 GMT -5
He announced his intention to sign (as "a dream come true") after his TJ surgery, which was scheduled for June 23. His pic on Twitter is him with Dr. James Andrews, apparently just post-surgery, and he labels himself "Boston Red Sox prospect." (He's also mentioned going to rehab.) He's been re-tweeting various Sox-themed tweets, too. He reportedly signed for $100K or less. While there is certainly a preponderance of evidence to suggest Pennington and the club have reached an agreement of sorts, there's still been no announcement by the Red Sox of an official signing. Nor have any of the more reputable national or team reporters (Callis, Mayo, Fitt, Manuel, Badler, Rogers, Law, Cotillo, Speier, et al) conveyed news of even an informal agreement pending red tape. So if you could provide a source, and/or a link, for any such "report" I'm sure we'd all be the wiser for it. In fact, these kids usually come to Boston to sign their deal, right? Pennington's doing the early-stage rehab for his surgery and it seems reasonable that he and the club have picked a later date for his trip to town for the standard physical and the ink on paper thing. That there's an agreement in place seems unquestionable -- I don't think the Sox let him identify himself as a prospect in the system otherwise, and we saw guys like Fisher and (IIRC) Tyler Hill do the same thing a while before their deals were officially announced. The dollar amount, however, may be an assumption on our parts. |
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 11, 2014 17:14:12 GMT -5
Is Pennington signed but because of the surgery the Sox have to wait to annouce that one? He said he is def. gonna sign.
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Post by azblue on Jul 11, 2014 17:29:35 GMT -5
The Sox may want to see Pennington alive, awake and fully functional after surgery before signing him.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2014 17:33:17 GMT -5
Is Pennington signed but because of the surgery the Sox have to wait to annouce that one? He said he is def. gonna sign. Josh Pennington @j_Penns5 · 8h Ft. Meyers tomorrow  ? Josh Pennington @j_Penns5 · 5h It's been the toughest and most stressful couple months of my life but I can't wait to get to Ft. Meyers it's such a relief |
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 12, 2014 9:59:27 GMT -5
I will be at the Cotuit game tonight, assuming that Rice is playing, is there anything that you guys would like me to look for or keep an eye on? I'm not a scout or a professional by any means.
Edit: Nvmd, he's not in the lineup for tonight, but I scored a stats sheet and he's hitting .279 in 21 games, 43 AB, 10 R, 12 H, 4 2B, 1 HR, 10 RBI, 6 BB, 14 K, 1 SB, 1 CS, .380 OBP and 1 Error.
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Post by rpiguy on Jul 12, 2014 14:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 12, 2014 17:56:28 GMT -5
The Sox may want to see Pennington alive, awake and fully functional after surgery before signing him. He already had it, I think. His Twitter avi is him either before or after surgery. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 12, 2014 18:48:16 GMT -5
The Sox may want to see Pennington alive, awake and fully functional after surgery before signing him. He already had it, I think. His Twitter avi is him either before or after surgery. Thanks genius. Tomorrow it will either rain or it won't.  |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 13, 2014 10:06:19 GMT -5
He already had it, I think. His Twitter avi is him either before or after surgery. Thanks genius. Tomorrow it will either rain or it won't. Lol. Smart---. I meant IMMEDIATELY before or after. As in he's in the hospital posing with his doctor and he's either about to get the surgery or just had it. EDIT: Just checked and it's not his avi anymore, but he tweeted a pic of the surgery on June 24. I won't post it here in case anyone is eating or has a weak stomach. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 13, 2014 10:57:09 GMT -5
Sorry. But I just had to bust your chops for that one.
BTW - there's a law firm here in Portsmouth, Upton & Hatfield. Any relation?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 14, 2014 8:21:46 GMT -5
I will never fault anyone for being a wisenheimer.
No relation, although they argue before the court I work at a bunch.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 17, 2014 17:11:58 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo ?@chriscotillo 14s
#RedSox sign 29th-rounder Josh Pennington for $90K bonus. Could be a late draft steal coming off Tommy John surgery.
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Post by jmei on Jul 17, 2014 17:15:06 GMT -5
Still wonder what the delay was.
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