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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jun 30, 2014 12:29:15 GMT -5
Also,in other news, Machados suspended for games against the sox, so sweep the cubbies and then the birds.
Let's win all ten and we could be in first!
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 30, 2014 12:40:14 GMT -5
Some weird suspensions this year. I'm still steaming that Price wasn't suspended. I just want fair treatment across the board. If someone throwing at someone intentionally is suspension worthy (Ryan Dempster last year, I won't say Workman because he threw high) as I believe it should be, it should be that way across any situation. They were throwing at Machado. I am not trying to justify his actions, I am just saying it was not done with worse intentions than Oakland had. Abad and Price should have both receive suspensions. Like I said, one situation of throwing at someone should not be treated as another, and without immediate discipline on the first action you are leaving the door wide open for retaliation.
That being said, when do we play Tampa again, I hope Longo takes one first inning in the hip.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 30, 2014 13:03:50 GMT -5
yeah, if there are no suspensions for the first infraction, then you're leaving it up to the players to deal with it. I guess we should hit em first, and let them take the suspensions later.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 30, 2014 13:07:24 GMT -5
Also doesn't hurt that two of the three clubs in the same division, Cin & StL have good prospects. Salary eating is always en vogue.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 30, 2014 13:11:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it's "showcasing him," I think it's waiting for a team to get desperate enough to just pull the trigger on Peavy rather than waiting to see if they can afford any better pitcher. I've mentioned this before re: RDLR, but an innings limit will be in play with him this year. He only threw 91.2 innings last year and is already at 86 IP this year. He maybe has another 40-50 innings max left in him before you'd want to shut him down for the year, and giving him a mid-season breather is a good way of managing his arm in just his second year removed from Tommy John surgery. But he's pitching Tuesday, so if your premise holds that makes even less sense. They really want him to use what few innings he has in AAA when they have a guy like Peavy throwing BP and they're only 5 games behind Toronto in the Loss column? Really? Peavy's the one who needs the "breather."
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jun 30, 2014 13:29:17 GMT -5
As long as pitch counts are watched, innings are immaterial.
Redundant protection isn't reduced risk.
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Post by jmei on Jun 30, 2014 13:35:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it's "showcasing him," I think it's waiting for a team to get desperate enough to just pull the trigger on Peavy rather than waiting to see if they can afford any better pitcher. I've mentioned this before re: RDLR, but an innings limit will be in play with him this year. He only threw 91.2 innings last year and is already at 86 IP this year. He maybe has another 40-50 innings max left in him before you'd want to shut him down for the year, and giving him a mid-season breather is a good way of managing his arm in just his second year removed from Tommy John surgery. But he's pitching Tuesday, so if your premise holds that makes even less sense. They really want him to use what few innings he has in AAA when they have a guy like Peavy throwing BP and they're only 5 games behind Toronto in the Loss column? Really? Peavy's the one who needs the "breather." They've already effectively skipped a start of his (he'll have had ten days between starts), and you can better manage innings in the minors.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 30, 2014 13:43:35 GMT -5
So, just back after over a week overseas with no Internet... how did Clay look in his return start?
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 30, 2014 13:53:12 GMT -5
So, just back after over a week overseas with no Internet... how did Clay look in his return start? 3 home runs, but much better, relatively speaking.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 30, 2014 14:02:19 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6s 6/30 vs. CHC: Holt RF, Nava LF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz DH, Napoli 1B, Bogaerts 3B, Drew SS, Betts CF, Ross C, Peavy RHP
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Post by ianrs on Jun 30, 2014 14:23:03 GMT -5
The lineup is looking a lot better these days. Who would've pegged Brock Holt as the regular leadoff man after last year? Great to see him taking everything in stride and really seeming to break out on both sides of the ball.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 30, 2014 14:42:25 GMT -5
wait why isn't AJ starting?
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jun 30, 2014 14:43:25 GMT -5
The lineup is looking a lot better these days. Who would've pegged Brock Holt as the regular leadoff man after last year? Great to see him taking everything in stride and really seeming to break out on both sides of the ball. I know you all are thinking it... Keeping it warm for mookie
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jun 30, 2014 14:44:40 GMT -5
wait why isn't AJ starting?[/ Maybe he broke his hand being an ahole
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Post by Guidas on Jun 30, 2014 14:47:46 GMT -5
As we're getting ready for the game, a few Sox tidbits in Rosenthal's latest column. He does intimate that the Phils will at least listen on Hamels. Getting him could mitigate losing Lester, which I am now convinced, sans John Henry stepping in, is going to happen. Also, like many who were impressed with Cherrington's success last year, he is questioning virtually Ben's off-season acquisitions this year: This past off-season was far less fruitful, and not simply because the team lost Jacoby Ellsbury, Jarrod Saltalamacchia and, for the first two months, Stephen Drew. Here is the tally sheet, thus far:
?Grady Sizemore: Released.? Chris Capuano: Designated for assignment. ?Jonathan Herrera: .295 on-base percentage.? A.J. Pierzynski: .278 on-base percentage.? Edward Mujica: 5.86 ERA. ?Burke Badenhop: 1.73 ERA.Of course if Herrera could post much more than a .295 OBP he'd probably have a starting job somewhere in the NL, or on the Yankees - and Badenhop has been good. But the rest, I agree, has turned out to be more or less trash. Full link msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/notes-the-history-behind-why-tanaka-abreu-count-as-rookies-063014
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Post by Guidas on Jun 30, 2014 14:50:39 GMT -5
wait why isn't AJ starting? Night game after a night game.
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Jun 30, 2014 15:54:23 GMT -5
I've read a few things about AJ and a hand injury, but must have missed it last night. What happened?
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 30, 2014 16:03:13 GMT -5
I've read a few things about AJ and a hand injury, but must have missed it last night. What happened? Punched the roof of the dugout twice, caught on national tv.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jun 30, 2014 16:35:08 GMT -5
Also, there is the whole he sucks thing.
I assume the in dugout camera shows red when on to keep the boys out of trouble, so it could have been staged.
He is that much of a douche.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 30, 2014 17:21:12 GMT -5
No, he was definitely pissed off and he slammed his closed fist against the dugout roof a few times, hard. Afterwards, he sat ruefully, staring at the damaged goods. These guys are all human after all. The anger we direct at them is probably no greater than what they direct at themselves when things are going badly. Honestly, Pierzynski is probably the last guy who'd give a crap about a red light in the dugout or anywhere else.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 30, 2014 18:47:25 GMT -5
what the hell???
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 30, 2014 19:05:45 GMT -5
Get a freeking hit
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jun 30, 2014 19:13:39 GMT -5
Sell!
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 30, 2014 19:16:19 GMT -5
Showcasing Peavy? Or convincing BC that he's a bum and needs to be off the roster?
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Post by Guidas on Jun 30, 2014 19:19:36 GMT -5
Showcase broken.
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