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2015 Draft Discussion
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Post by jdb on May 16, 2015 8:10:55 GMT -5
Gammons tweet
Scouts galore in Athens, Ga. to watch Arkansas OF Andrew Benintandi, .412/.507/.780, 17 HR(2d in country)...may shoot to Red Sox@7 Cubs @9
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Post by amfox1 on May 16, 2015 9:21:08 GMT -5
Gammons tweet Scouts galore in Athens, Ga. to watch Arkansas OF Andrew Benintandi, .412/.507/.780, 17 HR(2d in country)...may shoot to Red Sox@7 Cubs @9 Benintendi is a real pop-up guy. Lots of folks didn't know he was a draft-eligible sophomore until recently and he wasn't in anyone's top 100 prospects to begin the year. Now he's being talked about in the 7-11 range (he's a Cinci kid and may not get past the Reds). The question is whether this incredible run is real or just SSS. He's a smallish guy (5-10, 180) but figures to stick in CF.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 16, 2015 10:35:22 GMT -5
He kind of sounds like a Betts-type from what I read this morning, but as a natural outfielder. Read multiple mentions of his power being from insane bat speed.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 16, 2015 10:42:33 GMT -5
Here is some video:
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 16, 2015 10:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 16, 2015 11:11:09 GMT -5
Just a warning to everyone hopping on board right now (like I am as well, admittedly): the player they get at 7 is going to have warts. This draft is even worse than 2013's was. You're not going to be excited about the pick, most likely. Prepare now.
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Post by nomar on May 16, 2015 11:21:43 GMT -5
He's risky because he has no track record and is pretty short, but what a year for him. 17 HR, more BB than K, 20 SB.
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Post by jdb on May 16, 2015 11:24:16 GMT -5
Agree Chris. This draft may not be great on paper but there's going to be quality mlb players in it somewhere and hopefully we find one or two. At the very least this a new name to follow especially since rumors are we are heavy after college players. He very well could be our pick if Bregman and Fulmer are gone.
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Post by mainesox on May 16, 2015 11:56:58 GMT -5
Always hard to tell from video, but it looked like some pretty good speed on that play in CF.
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Post by taftreign on May 16, 2015 13:35:25 GMT -5
We know of Dansby Swanson and Alex Bregman both SEC high round 1 hitters. Another SEC hitting prospect who hasn't been ranked nearly as highly who I am intrigued by is Arkansas CF Andrew Benintendi. Currently BA's #97 draft prospect. While only 5' 10" or 5' 11" he has really shown the ability to drive the ball, currently sitting at 13 HRs while playing a premium defensive position (although I can't say at what level). He offers a speed element swiping 12 in 15 attempts and has 25 BB to 20 K. At this point I imagine he doesn't last until Bostons third round pick and appears to be a bit of a stretch as a first round deal cutter. Posted this in April. Because of the limited track record I was a bit hesitant to push him as a budget saving pick at 7 but now he seems to be getting the push to make him a full value pick in the top 15. He really does look impressive in limited video. Above average in hit tool, in-game power, and speed for a CF and at least average defense or greater. A solid tournament should solidify his status. In this draft I would be completely fine if Boston goes this route. Still prefer Bregman, Fulmer, Rodgers, Swanson and Tate over him but after that why not.
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Post by amfox1 on May 16, 2015 16:26:56 GMT -5
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 9m9 minutes ago Vandy RHP Walker Buehler's velo is a little off today, 89-93 in the first two innings today
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 16, 2015 17:15:45 GMT -5
This Benitendi kid sure looks for real. He's got some tools for sure. I think I'd still rather see someone like Aiken though. We have to keep trying to develop a top arm. Considering this is supposed to not be such a great draft, if we got either of those 2 I'd be happy.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 17:19:48 GMT -5
For myself i'm still holding out hope that Red Sox draft Brady Aiken. To add Yoan Moncada which many say he would be the first overall pick in this years draft and last years first overall pick in Brady Aiken. Now that would be adding some great talent in 2015.
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Post by jimoh on May 16, 2015 18:28:09 GMT -5
Just a warning to everyone hopping on board right now (like I am as well, admittedly): the player they get at 7 is going to have warts. This draft is even worse than 2013's was. You're not going to be excited about the pick, most likely. Prepare now. So basically the two times we get a #7 pick in this millennium, we'll get a guy who in another year would have been a decent pick in the 19-25 range we usually pick in.
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Post by mjammz on May 16, 2015 19:27:21 GMT -5
Regardless of perception and buzz there is plenty of talent in this draft. There will be all-star major leaguers that come out of this draft and it's up to the team to draft them. Others can complain or whine about the depth, talent, etc. The bottom line is the Red Sox are in prime position to add another very good prospect to their organization. I'll be excited if they get a few players I have my eyes on.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 16, 2015 20:13:13 GMT -5
Like some, I am all for Aiken. Any Arm honestly.
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Post by jdb on May 16, 2015 20:25:10 GMT -5
Benintandi was 2-3 w/ a 2B, SB, R, BB
Edit: ended up leading the SEC in BA/HRs. Glanced at a few articles last night and McDaniel comps his tool set to Cameron but has faced much better competition.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 16, 2015 20:32:23 GMT -5
Benintandi was 2-3 w/ a 2B, SB, R, BB Redsox love smallish guys.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2015 21:46:20 GMT -5
For all of those who are drooling over Aiken, does the fact that there has been absolutely no buzz surrounding the Sox with Aiken, nor did any mock draft by the "experts" even include Aiken in the top 10, even register?
This tells me that there must be huge medical risks with him, and that it's more than a little TJ surgery going on.
Wouldn't the Sox be all over him if it was a routine surgery that was going to be very likely to put him back to where he was before the injury?
If Aiken was somebody that looked like he didn't have that big a health risk, wouldn't the Sox be all over him? And there's absolutely nothing in that regard.
This tells me that the kid is not healthy and that there's a lot of doubt that he'll ever be that kind of healthy again.
Because if he was, I'd want the Sox to draft him, too. All things being equal, I'd love to see the Sox draft a guy who can be a front-line starter. The thought of a healthy Aiken, teamed up with a Kopech, and an arm like Anderson Espinoza, would give a lot of hope for the future, even if that's a big dream, and there's a lot between here and there.
I just don't think that's the case here, unfortunately. I think the Sox want Bregman, or if they don't get him, Fullmer. If that doesn't happen, maybe it's this young OF we're hearing about?
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 16, 2015 23:11:28 GMT -5
We were hardly connected with Ball 2 years ago. Maybe close to a week before the draft he was fall back option after the top 6 were gone...and we really were connected to Moran, and I can't remember the other pitchers name, but either way. Just because there hasn't been any info/credibal info connecting the Sox and Aiken doesn't mean we won't think about or even draft him. Top talent is what we all want. At 7 I hope we end up splitting hairs on the differences between one high end player or another.
*Shiply* I remembered post post. Haha
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 17, 2015 8:32:47 GMT -5
We were hardly connected with Ball 2 years ago. Maybe close to a week before the draft he was fall back option after the top 6 were gone...and we really were connected to Moran, and I can't remember the other pitchers name, but either way. Just because there hasn't been any info/credibal info connecting the Sox and Aiken doesn't mean we won't think about or even draft him. Top talent is what we all want. At 7 I hope we end up splitting hairs on the differences between one high end player or another. *Shiply* I remembered post post. Haha Can't remember which guy it was, whether it was Callis or Mayo or Law, etc, but they said that the Sox weren't interested in taking that gamble, and in all of the mock draft, Aiken isn't even listed in the top ten. It has to be because his medicals aren't very good, and that matters. If it didn't, he would certainly be worth the gamble.
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Post by danr on May 17, 2015 10:22:14 GMT -5
The ESPN Magazine this week is full of good baseball articles, including one about the philosophies of the Red Sox and the Cubs - emphasizing getting good hitters. Also, a piece about young pitchers focused on Aiken, and another about how KC has built a dominant bullpen.
There is a great deal about pitching in the issue and a lot of data about the decline in hitting due to better pitching.
Good hitters are getting harder to find and their value is escalating.
I have to believe that if there is a really good hitter available at the 7th pick, the Sox will pick him over any pitcher.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 17, 2015 10:56:56 GMT -5
With one pick in the first 80, I really don't think that the Red Sox are in a position to gamble on a health risk at 7. Yes, Jeff Hoffman went at 9 last year, but Toronto was picking again at 11. Fedde, on the other hand, fell to 18, which seems a more reasonable place for a team to take that gamble.
Like I said, picking Brady Aiken depends almost entirely on a thorough review of the medicals and knowing what he'll sign for. We don't have access to either.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 17, 2015 11:07:31 GMT -5
With one pick in the first 80, I really don't think that the Red Sox are in a position to gamble on a health risk at 7. Yes, Jeff Hoffman went at 9 last year, but Toronto was picking again at 11. Fedde, on the other hand, fell to 18, which seems a more reasonable place for a team to take that gamble. Like I said, picking Brady Aiken depends almost entirely on a thorough review of the medicals and knowing what he'll sign for. We don't have access to either. Agree 100 pct Chris. Don't care if it's a position player or a pitcher. BPA. Aiken would be infuriating to follow. They'd baby him more than a Royal Baby. Would be torturous to watch him get yanked early and often because of pitch counts and concerns about over-usage.
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Post by nomar on May 17, 2015 12:53:49 GMT -5
Been watching a lot of Benintendi video since yesterday. Seems like he can really hit. he has the bat speed and impressive BB and K rates in the SEC. His ISO this year is incredibly impressive for his frame. I'm not sure how scouts would project his power, but 17 HRs is more than a SSS fluke, there's got to be some thump in his bat. I would say he has more power potential than Bregman. He also should stick in CF because of his speed and a pretty good track record out there, whereas Bregman may have to move to 2B.
The one year track record concerns me though. Benintendi is definitely an impressive talent and has a ton of upside for a college bat that was kept a secret until a month before the draft. That being said, I think Bregman is the safer choice at 7. If Bregman/Fulmer is off the board, I wonder if Benintendi would be our choice.
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