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Post by chavopepe2 on Jan 11, 2015 17:42:12 GMT -5
That was into triple coverage - gronk had two defenders on each side. I am also not referring to his regular seasons. It's the playoffs where the struggles have been. He's had his struggles in the regular season too ... See the first third of this season. |
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Post by jmei on Jan 11, 2015 17:51:50 GMT -5
Any pass in the middle of the field versus zone coverage is going to have defenders in the general vicinity, but there was noone within 5-10 feet of Gronkowski when he turns around to look for the ball-- check out the second and third angles of the replay. If Brady puts air on that ball and throws it over the linebacker, it might be a touchdown. Brady hasn't really played that much worse in the playoffs over recent years than in the regular season. His interception and yard/attempt rates are pretty much identical to his regular season numbers between 2012-2014. I think you've overreacting based on a small sample against superior competition. Brady is not anywhere close to my primary or secondary concern with this team-- I'd be far more concerned about the inability to get pressure when rushing four, the struggles of the DTs to get off blocks, the interior offensive line, etc. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 11, 2015 17:53:25 GMT -5
Every quarterback struggles at times. Speaking of that, Peyton is getting booed. haha
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 11, 2015 18:15:36 GMT -5
That was into triple coverage - gronk had two defenders on each side. I am also not referring to his regular seasons. It's the playoffs where the struggles have been. Amendola was also wide open on that play |
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jan 11, 2015 19:18:17 GMT -5
Brady was pressured throughout the game. His game winning TD pass to LaFell was perfect. Pretty impressive performance by Brady last night, particularly given the Pats only had about 15 rushing yards all game, the lowest of any winning playoff team.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 11, 2015 19:51:35 GMT -5
Manning looked really bad today. Wonder if he is done?
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 11, 2015 21:29:49 GMT -5
Sad way for Manning to go out.
Time for a mea culpa: Today the refs had two key plays (Dez possible catch for a TD and Josh Cribbs possible fumble on a punt return) that were very hard and they got it right both times. That was not a catch and that was not a fumble. On the other hand, Mike Carey is not Mike Pereira and if he never commented on anything anymore I'd be happy.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 11, 2015 23:10:57 GMT -5
The refs tend to get better as the playoffs go on. They were really bad on wildcard weekend but much better this week. Hopefully they keep improving.
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 12, 2015 8:40:02 GMT -5
Not exaggerating when I say Carey might be one of the five worst people on the planet at his job.
The guy is NEVER right.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 12, 2015 10:02:07 GMT -5
Indy was a team headed in that concerned me because of Luck. Great QBs have defining playoff moments and beating Manning (and his shell) and Brady would do that for him. Fleener is a bad matchup but mostly because they will focus their attention elsewhere.
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Post by mgoetze on Jan 12, 2015 10:12:07 GMT -5
The refs tend to get better as the playoffs go on. They were really bad on wildcard weekend but much better this week. Hopefully they keep improving. In theory, you get the best refs in the Super Bowl, the 2nd and 3rd best in the conference championships, the 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th best in the divisional round, and the 7th through 10th best in the wildcard round. You'll note that the NFL has less than 20 crews of refs, so they actually have below-average refs in the wildcard round by design. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 12, 2015 10:23:09 GMT -5
Not exaggerating when I say Carey might be one of the five worst people on the planet at his job. The guy is NEVER right. The refs on the field should have a direct line with Carey and just do the opposite of what he says instead of bothering looking at replays. It's that automatic. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 12, 2015 11:28:12 GMT -5
Indy was a team headed in that concerned me because of Luck. Great QBs have defining playoff moments and beating Manning (and his shell) and Brady would do that for him. Fleener is a bad matchup but mostly because they will focus their attention elsewhere. Right but the Broncos scared me more other than at the QB position. They have a better D and some great recievers. Stork sounds like he is out for the AFCCG but could be back for a potential super bowl. MCL Sprain is what im hearing. Browner should be back this week. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 12, 2015 11:47:47 GMT -5
Andrew Luck is playing terrific football, both his INT against the Broncos were arm punts on 3rd and long in a very Favreian way throwing the 50-50 ball and letting his receiver try to cowboy up and get it. The secondary will have to play big.
On the offense, just target Laron Landry. He is a very bad safety and I expect the hood the explore this matchup. Don't overlook Indy, though, they're very dangerous and you can't expect the Manning face to make a surprise appearance.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jan 12, 2015 12:59:10 GMT -5
One of his throws at the end of the first half led to a Broncos field goal, he definitely wasn't arm punting it. If they had just ran a running play the Broncos wouldn't have had time for a drive.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 12, 2015 14:34:27 GMT -5
One of his throws at the end of the first half led to a Broncos field goal, he definitely wasn't arm punting it. If they had just ran a running play the Broncos wouldn't have had time for a drive. The Broncos had all their timeouts and Indy was on their own 5-10 yard line and it was 3rd and more than 10. Sure, a punt would have been better, but if you have to be intercepted that's not a bad situation to do it. |
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Post by mgoetze on Jan 12, 2015 15:43:59 GMT -5
Fleener is a bad matchup but mostly because they will focus their attention elsewhere. Fleener is exactly the WR-pretending-to-be-a-TE type where you just put Browner on him to shut him down. Andrew Luck is a great QB but there's just not enough talent surrounding him. The Colts game will be easier than the Ravens game. |
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Post by rangoon82 on Jan 12, 2015 16:01:58 GMT -5
Mike Reiss on the Colts-Pats regular season game: "One matchup that gave New England some problems was cornerback Brandon Browner on tight end Coby Fleener (seven catches, 144 yards)." Source |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 12, 2015 16:19:01 GMT -5
Browner did have some trouble with Fleener but he hardly gave up all those receptions.
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Post by mgoetze on Jan 14, 2015 3:38:00 GMT -5
Todd Bowles is the new HC of the Jets, with Chan Gailey as his OC. Todd Bowles was a great DC but I'm not too worried about these guys being able to turn Geno into an NFL QB.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 14, 2015 6:57:00 GMT -5
I'm not worried about anyone being able to turn him into an NFL QB. From everything I have seen, he doesn't have the head to do it.
He's a poor mans Cam Newton (no it's not a racial thing) and Cam Newton doesn't have what it takes to be a top notch QB.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 14, 2015 8:44:30 GMT -5
I'm really at a loss as to why Ayers has lost all his snaps. He was very good and made more plays than 95 has been. He's also more versatile even though 95 has been playing much better versus the run than before his injury.
I'm not suggesting that Ayers is better or should be getting the majority of the snaps. I'm won't go there at this point. However, he should be playing more. I don't know why they insist on playing 95 and 50 for 90%-100% of the snaps. Teams use very effective rotations to their advantage. In the past this team couldn't but 55 brings that ability and they are missing the boat. Playing 55 more would help them get to the quarterback in my opinion.
I really don't understand the mindset.
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Post by rangoon82 on Jan 14, 2015 10:42:59 GMT -5
In his recent mailbag, Reiss said he thinks its because Jones plays the run much better. But yeah I agree, 100% of snaps seems silly in general, let alone with a capable backup. Let CJ rest a bit, maybe you'll get more out of him.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 15, 2015 8:34:16 GMT -5
Jones plays the run better than Ayers? Interesting...
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Post by jmei on Jan 15, 2015 11:16:55 GMT -5
Good article on what I think is the real core of this defense going forward; the young and talented linebacking duo: grantland.com/the-triangle/new-england-patriots-linebackers-chandler-jones-donta-hightower-jamie-collins/Re: Jones/Ayers: the problem is that there is really nothing that Ayers does better than Jones at the DE spot. Jones is much better versus the run and at least slightly better as a pass-rusher (with his length/strength compensating for slightly less quickness/athleticism). Ayers is probably better in space, but the Patriots don't ask their DEs to drop in coverage too often. Now, I think it's a fair question to ask whether a Jones who plays 100% of the snaps is better than a fresh Ayers, but that's a question that is easier for Belichick to answer than it is for us to answer. I think part of the mindset is that it's the playoffs and every snap is important enough that you want your best players in there (see, e.g., Jones and Collins playing on the punt return unit as rushers, something they never/rarely did during the regular season). Rotations are great during the season when you don't want a guy to wear down before the playoffs, but now that it's the playoffs, it's usually a good idea to just play your best players as much as they're capable (see, e.g., how NBA stars see their minutes shoot up during the postseason). Belichick presumably thinks Jones is capable of playing all or virtually all of the snaps and not wearing down too much. |
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