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Post by Jonathan Singer on Sept 4, 2014 21:23:16 GMT -5
9/5 Red Sox (RHP Allen Webster 3-3 6.69) vs. Blue Jays (RHP Drew Hutchinson 9-11 4.47) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI9/6 Red Sox (RHP Clay Buchholz 6-8 5.40) vs. Blue Jays (LHP J.A. Happ 9-8 4.37) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI9/7 Red Sox (RHP Rubby De La Rosa 4-5 3.89) vs. Blue Jays (RHP R.A. Dickey 11-12 3.94) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Sept 5, 2014 14:00:49 GMT -5
Hey I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or if there are rules against this? But do any of you guys want to go to tonights Sox game? I have an extra ticket and figured I'd offer it to someone who would actually appreciate it instead of one of my friends who hates sports haha Sorry for the last minuteness of it too, the person who was supposed to have it bailed.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Sept 5, 2014 14:02:32 GMT -5
This is also 100% free of charge and I promise I'm not a serial killer.
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Post by mgoetze on Sept 5, 2014 14:51:07 GMT -5
The "9/5-9/7 Red Sox vs. Blue Jays Series Thread" would probably have been a good place to post this. But of course we can't complain too much that you are offering free stuff... Too bad I am 3500 miles away, else I might have taken you up on it.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 5, 2014 17:16:46 GMT -5
I'd love to go but Im in DC.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 18:22:54 GMT -5
Allen Webster, boys and girls. Once Fool's Gold, always Fool's Gold.
ADDED: @brianmacp: Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues.
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Post by ifixbadcredit on Sept 5, 2014 18:34:34 GMT -5
good job by Vasquez and Cespedes in support of Webster, should have gotten out of the inning with a 0 on the board.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Sept 5, 2014 18:51:02 GMT -5
Betts makes so many things look easy. Getting on base. Running the bases. Scoring. He just looks like a top 3-4 lead off guy in the league for a long time.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 18:52:53 GMT -5
Betts should be leading off.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 5, 2014 19:26:55 GMT -5
What's the over/under for career Vazquez Gold Gloves? 6? 8?
And I'd love to know which MLB team had two better up-the-middle defenders as rookies in the same season than Vazquez and Bradley.
Which leads to the broader thought ... years from now, the Boston Red Sox 2015 rookie class of Bogaerts, Betts, Vazquez, et al seems likely to be in the discussion for best ever. And if Bradley ends up hitting, and/or Webster ever gets it together ... the discussion may be short.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Sept 5, 2014 19:36:40 GMT -5
Since the 1st Webster has faced 1 more than the minimum.
4 IP, 6 GB, 1 FB, 1 PO, 3 K, 2 BB
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Post by godot on Sept 5, 2014 19:52:08 GMT -5
What's the over/under for career Vazquez Gold Gloves? 6? 8? And I'd love to know which MLB team had two better up-the-middle defenders as rookies in the same season than Vazquez and Bradley. Which leads to the broader thought ... years from now, the Boston Red Sox 2015 rookie class of Bogaerts, Betts, Vazquez, et al seems likely to be in the discussion for best ever. And if Bradley ends up hitting, and/or Webster ever gets it together ... the discussion may be short. et al is the sleeper
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 19:58:23 GMT -5
Since the 1st Webster has faced 1 more than the minimum. 4 IP, 6 GB, 1 FB, 1 PO, 3 K, 2 BB And then he didn't.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Sept 5, 2014 20:00:35 GMT -5
Meh, one hard hit ball to one of the best hitters in baseball.
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Post by ifixbadcredit on Sept 5, 2014 20:01:09 GMT -5
still a positive start from Webster, his defense failed him in the first and there is no shame in giving up a HR to Bautista.
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Post by nomar on Sept 5, 2014 20:03:26 GMT -5
Easily his best start this year
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 20:04:19 GMT -5
still a positive start from Webster, his defense failed him in the first and there is no shame in giving up a HR to Bautista. "Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues." Otherwise, he's an ace.
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 5, 2014 20:04:28 GMT -5
Holy hell, Britton didn't walk anyone!
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Post by ifixbadcredit on Sept 5, 2014 20:10:07 GMT -5
still a positive start from Webster, his defense failed him in the first and there is no shame in giving up a HR to Bautista. "Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues." Otherwise, he's an ace. yeah there's now way he will improve, the sox should go ahead and dfa him.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 20:14:12 GMT -5
"Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues." Otherwise, he's an ace. yeah there's now way he will improve, the sox should go ahead and dfa him. Hey, nice strawman. Next up tilting at windmillls.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 5, 2014 20:14:37 GMT -5
"Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues." Otherwise, he's an ace. yeah there's now way he will improve, the sox should go ahead and dfa him. Yeah, funny place here sometimes people fawn all over any prospect we have in the system and as soon as they don't start out like Doc Gooden they aren't shiny new toys anymore.
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Post by godot on Sept 5, 2014 20:21:16 GMT -5
The Sox will have to open their wallets in the off season. The present pitching staff will wear out the bullpen by June. The know it alls that were agreeing to let Lester ( and defensing JH) go did not bother to think about the importance of a pitcher that can pitch very deep into the game. Lackey could do this when he was on his game. Both are gone. The Sox will have to chase Shields even thought he is 33 now and will cost close to what they would be paying Lester. They will have to give him about 3 or 4 years.
You need to look at value not just in terms of dollars but in terms of what that person brings to the team and whether there are replacements. Lester brought more to the team than a guy who pitched very fifth day, and they did not have any replacements. Go eat a banana and put whip cream on it.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 20:24:23 GMT -5
And then there are those of us who actually realize from the outset that phrases like "ace" and "Number one starter" have meaning, and that most of these guys will never even make the majors, never mind be starters or regulars.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 5, 2014 20:36:41 GMT -5
"Opposing hitters have a .392 on-base percentage and a .468 slugging percentage against Allen Webster in his 15 starts in the major leagues." Otherwise, he's an ace. yeah there's now way he will improve, the sox should go ahead and dfa him. To be clear, I'm not chipping on you personally. You're new. I've seen Webster personally several times over the last 2 1/2 years and on TV for most of his MLB starts. I'm not a believer that he can master enough control to be more than a back end starter at the very best. I keep waiting for him prove me and everything I've seen from him wrong, but honestly I think they should've kept him in AAA this year and traded him to the first GM who thought those stats meant he'd turned some corner. And many of those saying this start of 5 1/3 in, 3ERs, 5K/2BB start was a good one are the same ones who'd be saying it was another dismal start where he couldn't make it to the 6th inning if his name was Doubront.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 5, 2014 21:04:37 GMT -5
Brock Holt in the 2nd half: .219/.279/.273 and he's still getting PAs as the leadoff hitter! Give Mookie the job dammit!
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