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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 23, 2015 9:40:47 GMT -5
Today there should be no doubt about Ben Cherington. Simply outstanding. Our future looks so damn good! Panda will eventually move to 1st or DH and Moncada will be our 3rd baseman for many years to come. LOVE IT!! I appreciate the flexibility that the owners have given Cherington to be able to always look ahead. Are you pushing Devers out the door here? Devers might legitimately be a better bat than Moncada. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 23, 2015 9:41:31 GMT -5
You think 3B is loaded in the system? Sandoval, Cecchini, Moncada, Devers and Chavis
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 9:42:12 GMT -5
Today there should be no doubt about Ben Cherington. Simply outstanding. Our future looks so damn good! Panda will eventually move to 1st or DH and Moncada will be our 3rd baseman for many years to come. LOVE IT!! I appreciate the flexibility that the owners have given Cherington to be able to always look ahead. Are you pushing Devers out the door here? Devers might legitimately be a better bat than Moncada. Worry about it later. Chances are better that we're going to have a future all-star 3B than it was a few minutes ago. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 23, 2015 9:43:09 GMT -5
So when Ben Cherington talks about that "Next Great Red Sox Team", I think I know what he has in mind.
He has them well set up, and he also has them in position to acquire other talent via trade.
We all wanted Giancarlo Stanton, but when that became impossible and there's no one "This is the guy we need to get" player, Ben has done a great job using the money to solidify and improve the current team, while using the money to also plan for an exciting future.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 23, 2015 9:46:50 GMT -5
Today there should be no doubt about Ben Cherington. Simply outstanding. Our future looks so damn good! Panda will eventually move to 1st or DH and Moncada will be our 3rd baseman for many years to come. LOVE IT!! I appreciate the flexibility that the owners have given Cherington to be able to always look ahead. Are you pushing Devers out the door here? Devers might legitimately be a better bat than Moncada. Devers might wind up at DH or 1b just as easily as 3b. Guys like Moncada, Swihart, Devers, Margot, and Chavis, who I forgot to mention earlier) have a legit shot at being good to very good major league players. That's a lot to choose from. It makes the attrition rate something that's easier to deal with when you have that kind of depth. Sam Travis could be a solid major leaguer as well. I don't know where they'll put these guys defensively, but they'll figure it out. And I believe the excess will be used to get pitching if needed. Cherington has put himself in the drivers seat. |
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Post by mobaz on Feb 23, 2015 9:48:33 GMT -5
I'm glad an MLB GM has finally followed my OOTP strategy of collecting ALL the good prospects and just seeing how it shakes out.
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Post by taftreign on Feb 23, 2015 9:49:38 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised to see this terrific news this morning.
Two related questions I have regarding signing Moncada.
Did MLB's ruling that restricted Alvares from signing until July 2 effect how aggressive Boston was in bidding on Moncada or were they independent decisions?
Also, how much if at all does this increase the probability of trading an existing prospect for starting pitching now or down the road?
I'd like to think each decision is determined on its own value maximizing merits but humans are influenced by external factors so you never know.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 9:49:46 GMT -5
Badler puts him at #1 for Boston and #10 in MLB.
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Post by sarasoxer on Feb 23, 2015 9:53:03 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised to see this terrific news this morning. Two related questions I have regarding signing Moncada. Did MLB's ruling that restricted Alvares from signing until July 2 effect how aggressive Boston was in bidding on Moncada or were they independent decisions? Also, how much if at all does this increase the probability of trading an existing prospect for starting pitching now or down the road? I'd like to think each decision is determined on its own value maximizing merits but humans are influenced by external factors so you never know. Yeah I had those same thoughts. After the initial over-the-top euphoria, I too wondered what bricks might now fall. I hope that we stand just as firm with our farm. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 23, 2015 9:53:44 GMT -5
Joel Sherman ?@joelsherman1 4 sec.
Can confirm Moncada to #Redsox. Hear he is getting $31.5M
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 23, 2015 9:55:27 GMT -5
We effectively just bought ourselves the equivalent of the #1 pick in this years draft while retaining the #7.
Well not really...but kinda?
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Post by borisman on Feb 23, 2015 9:57:04 GMT -5
At least he doesn't have far to travel to get his new ride pimped out, as Castillo did.
I think he'll rake in the minors and everyone will be happy. Hitting a ML curveball, slider or change will be different from what he's seen thus far in his short career. The reports on him are good tho and this has been a great thread to follow. As a side note, I voted that the Yankees would sign him so I'm glad I was wrong.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 23, 2015 9:57:32 GMT -5
I think the sox might get him I think you're looking at this through Red Sox colored glasses. You also thought the Sox were going to bring back Lester too, and the Red Sox' offer was woefully short. Money talks in this game and the Yanks will spend what it takes to get Moncada. ahem. |
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Post by soxcentral on Feb 23, 2015 9:58:18 GMT -5
Amazing! At no point in this process did I seriously entertain the belief he'd end up with us.
Cue the daily rumors that Hamels will be traded for one of our 'surplus' prospects Bogaerts or Betts every day for the next 5 months.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Feb 23, 2015 9:59:27 GMT -5
Can I change my vote?
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Post by nomar on Feb 23, 2015 10:00:24 GMT -5
Trading Bogaerts still makes no sense since Moncada isn't going to play SS. Betts is also just a flat out more valuable player than Hamels.
Maybe Margot becomes more available, but I don't think signing a good prospect should make us willing to give more up for Hamels.
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Post by soxcentral on Feb 23, 2015 10:04:20 GMT -5
Trading Bogaerts still makes no sense since Moncada isn't going to play SS. Betts is just a flat out more valuable player than Hamels. Maybe Margot becomes more available, but I don't think signing a good prospect should make us willing to give more up for Hamels. I was only predicting what you'll hear in the papers, talk radio, etc. You're talking about a 19YO who won't factor in to the 2015 team, probably not the 2016 team either. This changes nothing about anyone else. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 23, 2015 10:05:09 GMT -5
Is there an outside possibility he will attend Major League camp? Probably not right?
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Post by burythehammer on Feb 23, 2015 10:08:13 GMT -5
I'm giddy. Really didn't expect this at all until Heymans last report.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 23, 2015 10:09:21 GMT -5
Trading Bogaerts still makes no sense since Moncada isn't going to play SS. Betts is just a flat out more valuable player than Hamels. Maybe Margot becomes more available, but I don't think signing a good prospect should make us willing to give more up for Hamels. The point, as others have said, is that the team has enormous flexibility going forward. It vindicates their strategy of not handcuffing themselves with expensive long term contracts. It's not about Bogaerts or any single player. They have a broad range of options. The team gets to choose who they keep. They will dictate the terms. |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 23, 2015 10:09:48 GMT -5
Holy smokes!! Is Cashman throwing a chair in a hotel room somewhere?
That Salem team is gonna be must see TV, if he ends up there. Margot, Rijo, Moncada, Travis, some interesting pitching ... I'll buy my Frederick Keys ticket today for the first Salem trip to Maryland.
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Post by Guidas on Feb 23, 2015 10:09:58 GMT -5
Like this move. Also if you haven't seen Cashman's statement on this:
Cashman: "You only have so much money to spend. We have massive financial commitments and when you make those you have to live with them.''
(Translation: "Screw you. We're buying Price and Zimmerman next year. And Upton. So there.")
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Post by nomar on Feb 23, 2015 10:10:58 GMT -5
Trading Bogaerts still makes no sense since Moncada isn't going to play SS. Betts is just a flat out more valuable player than Hamels. Maybe Margot becomes more available, but I don't think signing a good prospect should make us willing to give more up for Hamels. I was only predicting what you'll hear in the papers, talk radio, etc. You're talking about a 19YO who won't factor in to the 2015 team, probably not the 2016 team either. This changes nothing about anyone else. Oh I know I was just addressing the concept not you. |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 23, 2015 10:10:55 GMT -5
Joel Sherman ?@joelsherman1 32s33 seconds ago Tampa, FL
#Yankees offered $25M with willingness to go to $27M which is same offered Jorge Soler who went to #Cubs for $30M
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Post by moonstone2 on Feb 23, 2015 10:11:54 GMT -5
So where does this guy fit in on the list? I say #2 behind Swihart, but the guys may want to see him first.
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