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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 11:03:22 GMT -5
It's a good thing we got him extended yesterday.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 23, 2015 11:04:08 GMT -5
Bob Nightengale ?@bnightengale 45s45 seconds ago
The #Yankees offered $25 million and were willing to go to $27 million, per @joelsherman1
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Post by mjammz on Feb 23, 2015 11:04:11 GMT -5
The best part about the Moncada situation is the 5 million dollars that separated the Yankees bid from the Red Sox is the same amount of money they're spending on Stephen Drew this year!
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 23, 2015 11:05:12 GMT -5
Thank you Jon Lester. You either pay for past performance or for future performance.
There's risk in both, but 62<155
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 11:05:29 GMT -5
So who is the first reporter to bitch about it? I'm sure Cafardo and CHB had two articles pre-written to criticize the move no matter the result.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 23, 2015 11:11:16 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 13m13 minutes ago
Luis Tiant, Boston's Cuban legend, had beakfast with Moncada and watched his workout. "Luis Tiant is a great ambassador for Sox,'': Hastings
Somebody buy Luis a cigar.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 23, 2015 11:13:40 GMT -5
So who is the first reporter to bitch about it? I'm sure Cafardo and CHB had two articles pre-written to criticize the move no matter the result. Well they could point out that the Red Sox are creating a future problem. They have too many of these darn kids that are coming up at 21 or 22 years old and will be free agents by the time they're in their prime at age 27, ready for the Yankees to pluck since these could be guys (Bogaerts, Betts, Moncada) who could command $200 million deals if they pan out, because we know the Yanks aren't interested in them when they're young. That could be something to look forward to reading about from them. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 23, 2015 11:14:20 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 13m13 minutes ago Luis Tiant, Boston's Cuban legend, had beakfast with Moncada and watched his workout. "Luis Tiant is a great ambassador for Sox,'': Hastings Somebody buy Luis a cigar. Loo-ie....Loo-ie....Loo-ie (just like 1975) |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 23, 2015 11:16:41 GMT -5
OK, I can't remember the last time I went to NYYfans to soak up some schadenfreude, but I had some time this morning, and the Moncada thread's a doozy ... best comment so far: "Maybe Hal would've sold Babe Ruth to the Red Sox."
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 23, 2015 11:16:43 GMT -5
@espnnyyankees: To be clear, it's obvious Cashman wanted Moncada but it seems like he couldn't get Hal to go any higher
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Post by jclmontana on Feb 23, 2015 11:16:54 GMT -5
Remember when the Sox were going to be neglected and suffer because of J. Henry's soccer team?
I do give credit to Ben, but lots and lots of credit to ownership on this one.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 23, 2015 11:22:35 GMT -5
Jim Callis ?@jimcallismlb 41m41 minutes ago Did not realize I'd miss out on Moncada signing when I took my sick car in this morning. Deep redsox system may rank right behind @cubs now |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 23, 2015 11:24:34 GMT -5
Joel Sherman ?@joelsherman1 9s10 seconds ago Tampa, FL
Now hear it was #redsox #brewers #Yankees for Moncada. #Dodgers would have gone to $35M if waited until July 2 to sign
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Post by mjammz on Feb 23, 2015 11:30:03 GMT -5
Dodgers must have some prospects like Vlad Guerrero Jr. lined up already for July 2nd.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 23, 2015 11:31:20 GMT -5
This is such nice news to wake up to. I was so convinced the Yankees were gonna get him. He was perfect for them.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 23, 2015 11:32:16 GMT -5
Jim Callis ?@jimcallismlb 41m41 minutes ago Did not realize I'd miss out on Moncada signing when I took my sick car in this morning. Deep redsox system may rank right behind @cubs now Car? |
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 23, 2015 11:34:07 GMT -5
Dodgers must have some prospects like Vlad Guerrero Jr. lined up already for July 2nd. Vlad jr. will sign with the Jays. |
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 23, 2015 11:35:06 GMT -5
Dodgers must have some prospects like Vlad Guerrero Jr. lined up already for July 2nd. That is going to be an all LA battle. From everything I have heard, esp from Alden Gonzalez, it sounds like the Angels are all in on him |
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 23, 2015 11:35:43 GMT -5
My god, Cherington is a terrific GM.
Also, the Yankees org has become a dumpster fire, and Iove it.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 11:36:18 GMT -5
OK, I can't remember the last time I went to NYYfans to soak up some schadenfreude, but I had some time this morning, and the Moncada thread's a doozy ... best comment so far: "Maybe Hal would've sold Babe Ruth to the Red Sox." Ha! This one is good too: |
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2015 11:37:23 GMT -5
Remember when the Sox were going to be neglected and suffer because of J. Henry's soccer team? I do give credit to Ben, but lots and lots of credit to ownership on this one. Yep, this is pretty much all John Henry. Every GM in the league would sign Moncada if their owner let him. |
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Post by tonyc on Feb 23, 2015 11:40:36 GMT -5
Shocked! For as long as free agency has existed I cannot remember outbidding the Yanks for anyone they truly wanted (resulting in "learned helplessness")..we did snatch Mike Torrez from them. They even took Luis Tiant from us at the end of his career (Bowie Kuhn was sickened). I cursed the sox fate of having the uber wealthy Yawkey die just on the eve of free agency- the "curse" would otherwise have ended long ago. Then decades of losing every bidding war with them- El Duque, etc. This is wonderful!
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Post by GyIantosca on Feb 23, 2015 11:43:16 GMT -5
We were all made out to believe we lost this guy to the Yanks or LA. I would love to see how the posting works. It's funny how close the bidding is. The Sox musta knew to win they would have to go 30. I wonder if the agent tells them . How cool would it be if they documented the whole process of this kid finally signing with a team?
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Post by Guidas on Feb 23, 2015 11:47:39 GMT -5
Like this move. Also if you haven't seen Cashman's statement on this: Cashman: "You only have so much money to spend. We have massive financial commitments and when you make those you have to live with them.'' (Translation: "Screw you. We're buying Price and Zimmerman next year. And Upton. So there.") Or they're getting ready to sell. This. The other siblings will only live so long. They probably want the family to cash out. "I'll take my $500 mil now, please." |
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 23, 2015 11:48:50 GMT -5
Remember when the Sox were going to be neglected and suffer because of J. Henry's soccer team? I do give credit to Ben, but lots and lots of credit to ownership on this one. Yep, this is pretty much all John Henry. Every GM in the league would sign Moncada if their owner let him. Sure, good on ownership, but it's the application of available resources that's the real job of the GM ... and the Sox/Cherington set this up by not re-signing Ellsbury or Lester, not panic-signing Scherzer or Shields, etc, etc. The A-Rod comparison's fun, but even a better one is just looking at the $9 million difference between the Sox cost and what the Yankees were willing to do. It's less than half of what Sabathia and Teixiera will make this year, about 60% of what Carlos Beltran is going to make, the same as Drew+Capuano ... |
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