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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 14, 2015 10:03:15 GMT -5
I will point out, before someone else does, that Soler was signed in late June, so it's not entirely analogous - he got into games quick. But that said, a) the 14 games in the complex league are basically a shorter version of the Moncada stint in Extended, which is the pre-draft GCL, and b) since it was late in the year, they needed to rush if he was going to get into ANY A-ball games. Sox have the luxury of not needing to rush.
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Post by michael on May 14, 2015 10:07:09 GMT -5
For reference's sake, Xander Bogaerts was assigned to Greenville on June 9 in 2011 out of XST. So, while I expect to see Moncada before then, we could have about another four weeks before I start to wonder what's going on. Clearly Moncada is being held back to avoid a rash of "He's ahead of Bogaerts at this stage" columns, tweets, posts and or call in discussions. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 14, 2015 10:40:36 GMT -5
The Sox have mentioned how they're trying to do right by their International signees, and this guy is from Cuba after all. I think a little in the way of preparation is not a bad idea. We are all immersed in this media-driven culture, so we come to take a lot of it as a given. But for someone coming into it for the first time or after having been away, it can be very disorienting. That's one of the reasons the US changed it's approach to returning soldiers from the time of Vietnam to now. The returnee is given time to adjust to the jarring differences between where s/he's been, and the States. Why would it be any different for someone who's spent his formative years in Cuba, a place that was purposefully off the main stream for 50+ years? There's the baseball side of this, and there's got to be some preparation for the insanity that is sure to ensue once he's out in the mainstream.
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Post by burythehammer on May 14, 2015 11:57:48 GMT -5
For reference's sake, Xander Bogaerts was assigned to Greenville on June 9 in 2011 out of XST. So, while I expect to see Moncada before then, we could have about another four weeks before I start to wonder what's going on. Clearly Moncada is being held back to avoid a rash of "He's ahead of Bogaerts at this stage" columns, tweets, posts and or call in discussions. I know you're kidding but Moncada would literally have to be in the big leagues by August to be on the same track as Bogaerts. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 14, 2015 12:21:35 GMT -5
Clearly Moncada is being held back to avoid a rash of "He's ahead of Bogaerts at this stage" columns, tweets, posts and or call in discussions. I know you're kidding but Moncada would literally have to be in the big leagues by August to be on the same track as Bogaerts. Not quite, but close. Bogaerts DOB 10/1/92, MLB debut 8/20/13, so just over a month shy of his 21st birthday. Moncada's DOB is 5/27/95, so call it 2.5 years later, so he'd have to debut in April of next year to keep pace. Your point certainly stands though. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 14, 2015 14:50:34 GMT -5
I know you're kidding but Moncada would literally have to be in the big leagues by August to be on the same track as Bogaerts. Not quite, but close. Bogaerts DOB 10/1/92, MLB debut 8/20/13, so just over a month shy of his 21st birthday. Moncada's DOB is 5/27/95, so call it 2.5 years later, so he'd have to debut in April of next year to keep pace. Your point certainly stands though. I don't think you can compare them unless Bogaerts also missed a year and a half of development. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 14, 2015 16:33:56 GMT -5
He'll be assigned to Greenville around May 20th. Just a prediction.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 14, 2015 17:52:02 GMT -5
Moncadagate.
I think Ted Wells is available now to investigate
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Post by nomar on May 14, 2015 19:50:26 GMT -5
He can be out until July as long as he rakes.
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Post by joshv02 on May 14, 2015 20:47:32 GMT -5
You guys have inside info. Why don't you share some of it or is there a gag order in affect? LOL! (Good joke, but it's "effect", not "affect".) I think it just makes him sad |
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Post by radiohix on May 14, 2015 20:57:26 GMT -5
We are lucky for having A. Speier " Moncada rising There still isn’t an exact date for Yoan Moncada to leave Fort Myers, and the Red Sox continue to feel that he’s benefitting from the opportunity to lay the foundation for his professional career there. That said, his run in extended spring training is nearing its conclusion, and before long, he’s expected to join Single A Greenville. “He’s made some great strides that we’ve seen in terms of acclimation of routines, getting used to some of the things we do on the field and off the field,” said Crockett. “I think it’s been invaluable for him. As we said from the get-go, it won’t be too long-term a thing. It’s something that we’ll be looking at here pretty soon.” www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/05/14/deven-marrero-breathing-easier-pawtucket/6j0CtgGifMjUoWlSo4YFeL/story.html?event=event25 |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 14, 2015 22:09:08 GMT -5
Oh look he reached out to the farm director to get an update instead of just ¯\_(?)_/¯
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Post by burythehammer on May 15, 2015 10:48:45 GMT -5
Are you trying to tell me Alex Speier is a superior journalist to Pete Abe?
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Post by jmei on May 15, 2015 21:55:41 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 16, 2015 17:37:46 GMT -5
Edes tweeted last night that he was supposed to join Greenville last week but hurt his elbow diving into 2nd base (mild elbow strain) but he'll join the team in a matter of days.
*typing from my phone now, I'll post the tweet when I'll have a pc
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 16, 2015 18:21:18 GMT -5
Edes tweeted last night that he was supposed to join Greenville last week but hurt his elbow diving into 2nd base (mild elbow strain) but he'll join the team in a matter of days. *typing from my phone now, I'll post the tweet when I'll have a pc Did not say he was supposed to join the team last week, and it was his shoulder and not his elbow, but did say it'd be soon. |
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Post by radiohix on May 16, 2015 18:46:32 GMT -5
Edes tweeted last night that he was supposed to join Greenville last week but hurt his elbow diving into 2nd base (mild elbow strain) but he'll join the team in a matter of days. *typing from my phone now, I'll post the tweet when I'll have a pc Did not say he was supposed to join the team last week, and it was his shoulder and not his elbow, but did say it'd be soon. I don't why I got the tweet completly messed up (the lack of sleep probably heh) |
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Post by nomar on May 17, 2015 13:01:45 GMT -5
That's exciting. I really want him to rake. It would be awesome to see him be the real deal and climb the ladder fast.
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Post by amfox1 on May 17, 2015 13:30:41 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6m6 minutes ago
Yoan Moncada, the 19-year-old signed this spring by Red Sox, to make pro debut next couple of days for Class A Greenville
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Post by radiohix on May 17, 2015 13:45:38 GMT -5
I TOLD YOU SO HATFIELD!
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Post by stevedillard on May 17, 2015 14:00:41 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6m6 minutes ago Yoan Moncada, the 19-year-old signed this spring by Red Sox, to make pro debut next couple of days for Class A Greenville Is anyone else troubled by the fact that they are still holding him out a couple of days, rather than playing him right now? |
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Post by jimed14 on May 17, 2015 14:04:16 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6m6 minutes ago Yoan Moncada, the 19-year-old signed this spring by Red Sox, to make pro debut next couple of days for Class A Greenville Is anyone else troubled by the fact that they are still holding him out a couple of days, rather than playing him right now? They need to trade Pedroia now. |
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Post by amfox1 on May 17, 2015 14:16:02 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6m6 minutes ago Yoan Moncada, the 19-year-old signed this spring by Red Sox, to make pro debut next couple of days for Class A Greenville Is anyone else troubled by the fact that they are still holding him out a couple of days, rather than playing him right now? Greenville is away on a road trip, back tomorrow. So, no. |
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Post by amfox1 on May 17, 2015 14:40:18 GMT -5
Ryan Hannable ?@ryanhannable 2m2 minutes ago
Sources: 19-year-old Red Sox prospect Yoan Moncada to make his debut with Single-A Greenville tomorrow night.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 17, 2015 14:53:37 GMT -5
What did you tell me? I corrected you on where the injury was and said that there was no indication they delayed an earlier debut date. |
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