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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 17, 2015 4:14:43 GMT -5
The only thing that may explain that is that they don't want Rijo, Dubon and Moncada on the same roster for lack of playing time. Which is certainly not the reason when you consider they had Dubon, Guerra, Moncada, Devers, and Chavis all on the same team. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 17, 2015 7:04:20 GMT -5
My guess is that the plan would be to have Moncada finish the season in Salem and start next season in Portland. That would put him in a position, should everything go positively, to get a late-season call-up next September.
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Post by brendan98 on Jul 17, 2015 9:36:06 GMT -5
Just for arguments sake, if Moncada reaches AA next year, when should the Sox begin transitioning him to another position?
Pedroia is the 2B for the foreseeable future, where does Moncada play?
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 17, 2015 9:45:01 GMT -5
Just for arguments sake, if Moncada reaches AA next year, when should the Sox begin transitioning him to another position? Pedroia is the 2B for the foreseeable future, where does Moncada play? Pedroia turns 32 in a month. By the end of next year, he'll be 33. So, not any time soon. |
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Post by texs31 on Jul 17, 2015 9:57:52 GMT -5
But would they actually do something with Pedey as long as he's able to play? I would think his contract and role on the team would give him the spot (even if it's not the right thing to do, on the field).
Meanwhile, 3B could easily be open if they decide to move Sandoval of 3B (and over to 1B).
I guess it's the question of what they SHOULD do versus what they WILL do (and how confident we are that those may line up).
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 17, 2015 10:01:44 GMT -5
My guess is that the plan would be to have Moncada finish the season in Salem and start next season in Portland. That would put him in a position, should everything go positively, to get a late-season call-up next September. I could also see him getting a month in Salem this year, starting off next year in Salem to consolidate at bats with en eye towards an early season promotion to Portland. Which, effectively has his eta at about the same. If he mashes it all year in Portland he should be knocking on the door by mid to end of next year. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 17, 2015 10:30:21 GMT -5
Meanwhile, 3B could easily be open if they decide to move Sandoval of 3B (and over to 1B). I guess it's the question of what they SHOULD do versus what they WILL do (and how confident we are that those may line up). I don't think Panda is moving off 3B, so I still think it lines up fine. I believe Moncada is Pedey's long-term replacement. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 17, 2015 10:52:28 GMT -5
Meanwhile, 3B could easily be open if they decide to move Sandoval of 3B (and over to 1B). I guess it's the question of what they SHOULD do versus what they WILL do (and how confident we are that those may line up). I don't think Panda is moving off 3B, so I still think it lines up fine. I believe Moncada is Pedey's long-term replacement. If Sandoval plays next year like this year (or shudder worse), I can see the Sox moving him. He will get a lot more rope to hang himself. Hopefully he puts together a good 2nd half this year, and comes out feeling comfortable and productive next.....but Moncada could be our 3rd baseman by 2017. |
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Post by jimoh on Jul 17, 2015 11:01:11 GMT -5
Meanwhile, 3B could easily be open if they decide to move Sandoval of 3B (and over to 1B). I guess it's the question of what they SHOULD do versus what they WILL do (and how confident we are that those may line up). I don't think Panda is moving off 3B, so I still think it lines up fine. I believe Moncada is Pedey's long-term replacement. You mean in 2022, when Pedroia is off the books? Or will he be a very well paid cheerleader? |
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Post by pokeefe363 on Jul 17, 2015 11:34:41 GMT -5
The best way to describe Moncada's defense at 2B is shaky and if you've watched any video of his mechanics, rough is the best word to describe them. Looking at his build and scouting profile, he screams RF to me. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him, but I just don't see a decent defensive infielder there.
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jul 17, 2015 12:05:32 GMT -5
The best way to describe Moncada's defense at 2B is shaky and if you've watched any video of his mechanics, rough is the best word to describe them. Looking at his build and scouting profile, he screams RF to me. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him, but I just don't see a decent defensive infielder there. The really scary thing is that as his offense has improved so has his defense and the stats back this up. Consider that in his first 19 games at second he committed 10 errors while in his past 16 that number dropped to just 3! Not saying the guy is going to be a future gold glover but I am beginning to believe that anything is possible with this guy in terms of talent progression...
Heres a video clip of a great diving stop he made just last night
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Post by pokeefe363 on Jul 17, 2015 13:20:37 GMT -5
My worries are related to him fielding ground balls and overuse of the flashy underhand throws. Hopefully that's improved, but I think he could be a plus defender in the outfield vs. average at best in the infield.
If he stays in the infield, his spot in Boston will likely be at 3B. The one worry with the team is that Bogaerts will grow off SS.
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Post by wcp3 on Jul 17, 2015 15:14:06 GMT -5
I don't think we need to worry about X growing off SS anytime soon.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 17, 2015 15:52:01 GMT -5
I don't think we need to worry about X growing off SS anytime soon. If anything he's growing into SS. |
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Post by jimoh on Jul 17, 2015 16:08:40 GMT -5
My worries are related to him fielding ground balls and overuse of the flashy underhand throws. Hopefully that's improved, but I think he could be a plus defender in the outfield vs. average at best in the infield. If he stays in the infield, his spot in Boston will likely be at 3B. The one worry with the team is that Bogaerts will grow off SS. List of 3b with blazing speed includes.....? |
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Post by nomar on Jul 17, 2015 16:34:16 GMT -5
My worries are related to him fielding ground balls and overuse of the flashy underhand throws. Hopefully that's improved, but I think he could be a plus defender in the outfield vs. average at best in the infield. If he stays in the infield, his spot in Boston will likely be at 3B. The one worry with the team is that Bogaerts will grow off SS. List of 3b with blazing speed includes.....? Reason why having plus speed would have any negative effect at 3B? |
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Post by jimoh on Jul 17, 2015 16:44:35 GMT -5
List of 3b with blazing speed includes.....? Reason why having plus speed would have any negative effect at 3B? Just a waste; just that it doesn't help. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 17, 2015 16:51:40 GMT -5
Reason why having plus speed would have any negative effect at 3B? Just a waste; just that it doesn't help. I guess, but if he's an above average defender there I wouldn't care. You could try him in RF though I guess. It really will depend on our 3B/1B situation and where Pablo goes. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 17, 2015 16:53:51 GMT -5
I'm leaning RF. And maybe the transition from 2B won't be too bad because the angles are similar.
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Post by nomar on Jul 17, 2015 17:02:00 GMT -5
I'm leaning RF. And maybe the transition from 2B won't be too bad because the angles are similar. Well also have to see what we do with JBJ and Margot. I don't think they'll move Mookie to LF (I bet he stays in CF). Margot and JBJ could both be insane RF defenders, but they could also be great trade chips. We have a ton of assets to decide what to do with. |
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Post by jmei on Jul 17, 2015 18:52:29 GMT -5
My worries are related to him fielding ground balls and overuse of the flashy underhand throws. Hopefully that's improved, but I think he could be a plus defender in the outfield vs. average at best in the infield. If he stays in the infield, his spot in Boston will likely be at 3B. The one worry with the team is that Bogaerts will grow off SS. List of 3b with blazing speed includes.....? Machado comes to mind. |
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Post by klostrophobic on Jul 18, 2015 1:00:49 GMT -5
The best way to describe Moncada's defense at 2B is shaky and if you've watched any video of his mechanics, rough is the best word to describe them. Looking at his build and scouting profile, he screams RF to me. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of him, but I just don't see a decent defensive infielder there. The really scary thing is that as his offense has improved so has his defense and the stats back this up. Consider that in his first 19 games at second he committed 10 errors while in his past 16 that number dropped to just 3! Not saying the guy is going to be a future gold glover but I am beginning to believe that anything is possible with this guy in terms of talent progression...
Heres a video clip of a great diving stop he made just last night
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 18, 2015 9:05:14 GMT -5
List of 3b with blazing speed includes.....? Machado comes to mind. Machado is kind of a shortstop playing out of position though. Although I guess that could also be taken to mean that you don't always need to play a guy at his "natural" position. |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 18, 2015 10:46:56 GMT -5
I have a feeling Moncada's going to advance quickly now that he's back to playing baseball. I'd put him at 3b in AA, and move our teletubby to 1b when he's ready. By the time Devers is ready, we'll be able to kick Sandoval to the curb. Might have to eat a year of his contract. No pun intended:)
Maybe an OF of Mookie in CF, some combo of Margot/Castillo/JBJ in LF/RF after next season. When Hanley becomes our full-time DH. Our position players are coming in order for a pretty good team.
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Post by cdj on Jul 18, 2015 14:18:58 GMT -5
Chone Figgins was a 3B with wheels
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