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Post by jimed14 on Jul 19, 2015 15:24:35 GMT -5
I have a feeling Moncada's going to advance quickly now that he's back to playing baseball. I'd put him at 3b in AA, and move our teletubby to 1b when he's ready. By the time Devers is ready, we'll be able to kick Sandoval to the curb. Might have to eat a year of his contract. No pun intended:) Maybe an OF of Mookie in CF, some combo of Margot/Castillo/JBJ in LF/RF after next season. When Hanley becomes our full-time DH. Our position players are coming in order for a pretty good team. I'd rather eat 50% of Sandoval's contract and dump him than move him to 1B. He's not going to fix 1B for us because he's not hitting enough for a 3B let alone a 1B. |
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 19, 2015 16:07:36 GMT -5
I have a feeling Moncada's going to advance quickly now that he's back to playing baseball. I'd put him at 3b in AA, and move our teletubby to 1b when he's ready. By the time Devers is ready, we'll be able to kick Sandoval to the curb. Might have to eat a year of his contract. No pun intended:) Maybe an OF of Mookie in CF, some combo of Margot/Castillo/JBJ in LF/RF after next season. When Hanley becomes our full-time DH. Our position players are coming in order for a pretty good team. I'd rather eat 50% of Sandoval's contract and dump him than move him to 1B. He's not going to fix 1B for us because he's not hitting enough for a 3B let alone a 1B. Where will you play Moncada if he's ready at start of 2017? If he can handle an infield position, seems a bigger waste to put him in the OF than moving Sandoval to 1b. I have Moncada at 3b early if not the start of 2017. Devers at 1b replacing Sandoval. Maybe, not until late 2018. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 19, 2015 16:08:23 GMT -5
I'd rather eat 50% of Sandoval's contract and dump him than move him to 1B. He's not going to fix 1B for us because he's not hitting enough for a 3B let alone a 1B. Where will you play Moncada if he's ready at start of 2017? If he can handle an infield position, seems a bigger waste to put him in the OF than moving Sandoval to 1b. I have Moncada at 3b early if not the start of 2017. Devers at 1b replacing Sandoval. Maybe, not until late 2018. Face that problem when it comes. Dump Sandoval if/when Moncada or Devers is better than him. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 19, 2015 16:13:48 GMT -5
I'd rather eat 50% of Sandoval's contract and dump him than move him to 1B. He's not going to fix 1B for us because he's not hitting enough for a 3B let alone a 1B. Where will you play Moncada if he's ready at start of 2017? If he can handle an infield position, seems a bigger waste to put him in the OF than moving Sandoval to 1b. I have Moncada at 3b early if not the start of 2017. Devers at 1b replacing Sandoval. Maybe, not until late 2018. Don't count out Sam Travis in your equation. He's in AA ball now and could be the 1b by 2017. |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 2, 2015 2:47:18 GMT -5
It's great to see Moncada hitting better now but I was looking at his Cuban numbers tonight and they don't seem all that different than the numbers Iglesias was putting up at the same age in Cuba. If anything, I vaguely remember Iglesias at least hitting for a higher average in Cuba at about the same age. I get the speed difference and the potential power difference but I'm not so sure Moncada was any better an overall prospect when signed.
I see that he was projected to be a number 1 pick if eligible for the draft but I just don't see it overall. Iglesias had a major league glove from day one. Moncada didn't light up Cuban baseball. He wasn't a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. He was a great athlete but a lot of great athletes never make it in baseball. I'm glad we signed Moncada and hope he works out but the kind of money we spent was inappropriate to me. It was something like this: We were going over the international spending limit on Espinoza etc...already. Moncada was also available. We might as well sign him. This sort of convenient logic can really mess a team up.
The money spent on both Moncada and Castillo looks inappropriate to me.
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 2, 2015 7:20:23 GMT -5
You're drawing those conclusions based on their respective BAs in Cuba? Despite what every scout across the board has said about his potential?
Lol.
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Post by cdj on Aug 2, 2015 8:16:33 GMT -5
Did I just see that he tried to steal home last night?
Hilarious, I'm all in on him.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Aug 2, 2015 10:09:25 GMT -5
If Moncada's bat ends up where Iglesias is now only with more speed and power....he'll be one of the best hitters in the league.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 2, 2015 11:05:34 GMT -5
Where will you play Moncada if he's ready at start of 2017? If he can handle an infield position, seems a bigger waste to put him in the OF than moving Sandoval to 1b. I have Moncada at 3b early if not the start of 2017. Devers at 1b replacing Sandoval. Maybe, not until late 2018. Don't count out Sam Travis in your equation. He's in AA ball now and could be the 1b by 2017. He might be a nice stop gap fill in for 2017 until Devers is ready, and then tradebait. |
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Post by WindyCityRedSox169 on Aug 2, 2015 14:12:43 GMT -5
It's great to see Moncada hitting better now but I was looking at his Cuban numbers tonight and they don't seem all that different than the numbers Iglesias was putting up at the same age in Cuba. If anything, I vaguely remember Iglesias at least hitting for a higher average in Cuba at about the same age. I get the speed difference and the potential power difference but I'm not so sure Moncada was any better an overall prospect when signed. I see that he was projected to be a number 1 pick if eligible for the draft but I just don't see it overall. Iglesias had a major league glove from day one. Moncada didn't light up Cuban baseball. He wasn't a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. He was a great athlete but a lot of great athletes never make it in baseball. I'm glad we signed Moncada and hope he works out but the kind of money we spent was inappropriate to me. It was something like this: We were going over the international spending limit on Espinoza etc...already. Moncada was also available. We might as well sign him. This sort of convenient logic can really mess a team up. The money spent on both Moncada and Castillo looks inappropriate to me. The potential power difference? Moncada has 5 homers in Greenville alone, albeit one was an inside the homer (not cheap by any means though), Iglesias had 6 all of his minor league career. There is no potential power difference, Moncada hits for more power now. At the end of the day Moncada has lit up Greenville and should be onto Salem all while not playing baseball in a year. As for your last few sentences you seem pretty indecisive. "I am glad we signed Moncada but the kind of money we spent was inappropriate to me." The money doesn't impact the major league budget so in the end we spent money for a potential player that may hit better than Iglesias but not as advanced with the glove. Iglesias is one of the best shortstops in the game. If Moncada develops the bat like some think he will and reigns in the defense, he will never be Iglesias, he is going to be worth much more the contract they gave him. |
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Post by brnichols19873 on Aug 9, 2015 20:51:44 GMT -5
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Post by WindyCityRedSox169 on Aug 9, 2015 22:28:05 GMT -5
Unless they plan on being much more aggressive with him next year I would be very surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 22:36:44 GMT -5
So what have we decided the plan is again - Pablo to 1B and Moncada to 3B?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 9, 2015 23:52:26 GMT -5
So what have we decided the plan is again - Pablo to 1B and Moncada to 3B? Sandoval is barely adequate offensively for a 3b. If everybody was complaining about Napoli this year (because he truly was terrible this year), remember Sandoval's OPS wasn't too different than Napoli's. If Sandoval can't play 3b, he doesn't have much value, and judging by his declining defense and questionable offense...it's going to be a long five years. But that doesn't mean that Moncada doesn't end up at 3b. There's a legit chance that happens, but that also makes me think that 2016 is an optimistic time table even if his offense is ready. At some point he's going to be converted away from 2b. |
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 10, 2015 6:54:56 GMT -5
Unless they plan on being much more aggressive with him next year I would be very surprised. He seems like the rare exception type of guy who they could have skip High-A altogether. If that happens it doesn't seem so unlikely. |
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 10, 2015 8:40:32 GMT -5
It seems like a small thing, but I think he should be promoted NOW to Salem and let him get comfortable with the environment. I see 2016 as a "launch" year for Moncada. He may start in Salem, but I could see him pull a "Mookie" next season and propel himself into the conversation. I would think rewarding him with 3 weeks in High A is the thing to do. Offensively he has little to prove in Greenville. Lets get him ready for the "count down"!
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Post by nomar on Aug 10, 2015 9:11:20 GMT -5
I think at this point it's more about cultural assimilation than anything on field. He steals almost every time he gets on, yet doesn't get thrown out. He's hitting for power, K'ing less. I know his defense needs improvement, but I don't think that alone is what's keeping him in Greenville.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 10, 2015 11:13:56 GMT -5
I bet he starts in Portland next year no matter what happens this year.
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Post by p23w on Aug 10, 2015 12:34:38 GMT -5
I bet he starts in Portland next year no matter what happens this year. But at what position? |
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Post by Nick Rabasco2 on Aug 11, 2015 17:32:21 GMT -5
Moncada was just pulled from the Greenville lineup according to their Twitter account
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 11, 2015 17:42:11 GMT -5
Traded for hammels
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2015 17:45:15 GMT -5
Moncada was just pulled from the Greenville lineup according to their Twitter account Hope he gets promoted finally |
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 11, 2015 17:55:59 GMT -5
Chris Hatfield Chris Hatfield 2m2 minutes ago Hearing Moncada scratch probably not transaction related. |
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2015 18:08:13 GMT -5
Chris Hatfield Chris Hatfield 2m2 minutes ago Hearing Moncada scratch probably not transaction related. Chris is so Hollywood now |
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 11, 2015 21:22:45 GMT -5
Why would they scratch him because of a promotion. He's gonna teleport to Salem in time for the first pitch?
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