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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 2, 2015 5:00:47 GMT -5
Seeing Seager/Urias up there makes me think of Moncada/Espinoza for the Sox ... maybe next year. |
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Post by burythehammer on Oct 2, 2015 6:05:10 GMT -5
Presumably Buxton has graduated? I thought Byron Buxton would have an honorary place at #1 on prospect lists for his entire career regardless. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Oct 2, 2015 9:30:43 GMT -5
He seems to always be aggressive on newly drafted players, but Swanson and Rodgers in the top 10 is too much of a stretch for me. Didn't he have Gray and Appel in the top 20 (maybe 10 for one of them IIRC) after they were drafted? |
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Post by nomar on Oct 2, 2015 11:09:50 GMT -5
Rodgers is so far away from the majors. If you're going to have him that high, might as well have Espinoza there too. It's just because he was drafted so high obviously.
Wonder where MLB will put Benintendi. I think they and BA will have him very high in comparison to fangraphs.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 3, 2015 16:19:38 GMT -5
I respect Callis's opinion more than anyone in baseball who is not working directly for a team. His call means a lot.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 3, 2015 21:03:29 GMT -5
Interesting tidbit from BA: Moncada led the league in TC/G at 2b, and in DP along with Guerra. Despite all of the errors, it looks like his range is very good, unless it turns out Greenville's staff is just silly with INF grounders and soft liners. Frankly, I'll take the infielder who makes 25 errors but gets to 500 balls over the guy with 5 errors who only gets to 400. The first guy's worth 80 more outs. www.baseballamerica.com/minors/south-atlantic-league-box/ |
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Post by templeusox on Oct 3, 2015 21:22:19 GMT -5
Presumably Buxton has graduated? He hasn't and he won't which is unbelievable and a disgrace. |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 5, 2015 18:40:42 GMT -5
It's kind of surprising that Devers had a lower OPS than Moncada in Greenville, while hitting so many more doubles and more HR but Devers did have more AB. It is surprising nonetheless to me yet speaks well for Moncada.
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Post by stevedillard on Oct 5, 2015 19:07:58 GMT -5
It's kind of surprising that Devers had a lower OPS than Moncada in Greenville, while hitting so many more doubles and more HR but Devers did have more AB. It is surprising nonetheless to me yet speaks well for Moncada. For all of his impressive stats. Rafael did not walk much at all. His profile is not that of.a free swinger, but his k/bb is a bit worrisome given how promising Almanzar was felled by a similar bad peripheral. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 5, 2015 19:30:37 GMT -5
It's kind of surprising that Devers had a lower OPS than Moncada in Greenville, while hitting so many more doubles and more HR but Devers did have more AB. It is surprising nonetheless to me yet speaks well for Moncada. Why is it surprising to you? Moncada is a year and a half older. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 5, 2015 19:58:29 GMT -5
We'll see if he can keep it up, but Moncada appears to have a serious OBP skill. That one thing in and of itself is enough to account for the difference.
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Post by nomar on Oct 5, 2015 20:01:23 GMT -5
Willing to wager Devers has more in game power than Moncada once he isn't a doughy teenager with braces.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 5, 2015 21:12:29 GMT -5
Moncada should reach the majors before Devers. He could be in Portland by the ASB. It's remarkable despite the fact that Yankees are still leading in the poll.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 5, 2015 21:25:20 GMT -5
Willing to wager Devers has more in game power than Moncada once he isn't a doughy teenager with braces. Having seem him I am not convinced that he is a doughboy....just...as the saying goes...."thick". I do think though that he may need to watch his carbo intake going forward to avoid MoVaughnitis....no cure. |
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Post by nomar on Oct 5, 2015 23:37:16 GMT -5
Willing to wager Devers has more in game power than Moncada once he isn't a doughy teenager with braces. Having seem him I am not convinced that he is a doughboy....just...as the saying goes...."thick". I do think though that he may need to watch his carbo intake going forward to avoid MoVaughnitis....no cure. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Oct 13, 2015 14:47:44 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton 31 sec.
Dombrowski said Moncada is "penciled into High-A" to start 2016.
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Post by gerry on Oct 13, 2015 15:27:35 GMT -5
And how long might he last there? AA by mid-season? He needs time to develop more tban 2B. I wonder who will join him at A+? The next wave is already forming, with the leading edge already visible.
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Post by borisman on Oct 13, 2015 15:56:37 GMT -5
He also needs time to develop at another position as his hit tool can play anywhere. I'm not exactly sure that playing 2B exclusively is the best thing long term for him and the team. If he rakes next year then he undoubtedly will be up in Boston sometime in 2017. To quote the late James "Lou" Gorman, "where would we play him?"
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Post by m1keyboots on Oct 13, 2015 16:01:29 GMT -5
First base/corner OF? I rrally think that's a great spot with 3rd a distant second.
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Post by nomar on Oct 13, 2015 16:07:24 GMT -5
A+ makes sense. There's no need to rush him because we want to compete for a pennant next year, and don't have time to play Moncada through a steep adjustment period like Swihart did this year. I want him to be ready to contribute fairly soon after getting the call, like Betts.
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Post by borisman on Oct 13, 2015 16:15:38 GMT -5
First base/corner OF? I rrally think that's a great spot with 3rd a distant second. |
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Post by nomar on Oct 13, 2015 16:32:05 GMT -5
First base/corner OF? I rrally think that's a great spot with 3rd a distant second. So can rocks |
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 13, 2015 16:58:13 GMT -5
And how long might he last there? AA by mid-season? He needs time to develop more tban 2B. I wonder who will join him at A+? The next wave is already forming, with the leading edge already visible. Until the snow is melted in Portland. |
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Post by telson13 on Oct 13, 2015 17:31:34 GMT -5
He also needs time to develop at another position as his hit tool can play anywhere. I'm not exactly sure that playing 2B exclusively is the best thing long term for him and the team. If he rakes next year then he undoubtedly will be up in Boston sometime in 2017. To quote the late James "Lou" Gorman, "where would we play him?" Ugghh...classic quote, but who wants to be reminded of the soon-to-follow Bagwell fiasco? Stupid Scott Cooper and his .700 OPS in AAA... I agree, btw, that Moncada should get at least some exposure to other (OF?) positions since he doesn't seem to be a "natural" fit anywhere so far. His bat is going to force the issue soon... |
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Post by telson13 on Oct 13, 2015 17:37:18 GMT -5
First base/corner OF? I rrally think that's a great spot with 3rd a distant second. 1b and left field have the least defensive value. LF might actually be a fit, but you don't put a player with 65-70 grade speed at first. CF, SS, 2b, COF, 3b, with 1b a distant last. After SS and C, 3b and second have the most defensive value (3b is roughly equivalent to CF), so it's 3b long before 1b, particularly given his outstanding arm. I'd still like to see them just *try* him at SS, but it won't happen. |
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