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4/6-4/9 Red Sox @ Phillies Series Therad
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 6, 2015 18:17:49 GMT -5
Red Sox win, MFY lose, baseball is back. Life's good.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 6, 2015 18:41:37 GMT -5
Alex Speier ?@alexspeier Sox announce they've signed Porcello to a 4-year extension
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 6, 2015 18:57:53 GMT -5
The thing about this team that showed up today is that they have a lot of guys that can just go off and carry the team. You get nothing from Sandoval, Ortiz, Napoli's on the bench, Bogaerts doesn't hit ... and Pedroia, Ramirez, and Betts go nuts. Another time, it might be Ortiz, Napoli, and Betts. Or maybe Bogaerts, Sandoval, and Betts. You know, it'll always be a rotating set a guys. And Betts.
They're gonna score, that's for sure. Let's take this through the rotation a couple of times and start to get a glimpse at what we've got there. Encouraging from Buchholz, no doubt, even accounting for the AAAA team he was facing.
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Post by thursty on Apr 6, 2015 19:06:27 GMT -5
Alex Speier ?@alexspeier Sox announce they've signed Porcello to a 4-year extension 4 years 82.5 Now how about 8/45 for Mookie?
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 6, 2015 19:21:50 GMT -5
Sandoval's right handed swing is comically ugly For sure. I really hope it doesn't take 3 months weeks for Farrell to start batting Napoli in front of him vs lefties. Every other RHH has a case to be ahead of him vs. LHP as well. FIFY. Seriously, you've got just two LHH in the entire lineup, and you've only put one RHH between them? That's inviting opposing managers to bring in their LHR to face Ortiz, pitch around Hanley, and face Sandoval. Moving Napoli ahead of Sandoval destroys that strategy and will significantly reduce the number of LHR that Ortiz and Sandoval face. And it's not like there's any good argument for doing it this way, in a vacuum. All things being equal, you bat the better hitter first, and that appears to be Napoli. All things still being equal, bat the guy whose OBP is more composed of walks first, since the BB is the one act that is pure table-setting without any RBI potential.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Apr 6, 2015 19:32:23 GMT -5
I know spring training stats are essentially meaningless, but through 60 spring PA's Xander Bogaerts is sporting a 10% K rate and a 15% BB rate.
Are these just SSS and Spring or is he about to take a big step forward (because I can't imagine any version of Xander Bogaerts with a 10% K rate and 15% BB rate that isn't very, very exciting)?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 6, 2015 19:35:33 GMT -5
For all the talk of the Red Sox having a bunch of #3 starters, I think we'll end up seeing a much more traditional distribution. Clay slots in as the #1, Porcello will pitch like a #2, Miley slots in as a solid #3, Kelly is decent as your #4, and Masterson struggles somewhat as your #5. Maybe swap the last two.
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Post by greekgodofpancakes on Apr 6, 2015 19:48:01 GMT -5
Mookie tied for 3rd in the AL in HRs. This guy is a stud.
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Post by libertine on Apr 6, 2015 19:51:01 GMT -5
What a comprehensively enjoyable opening day. For me the biggest plus for the day was the way Buchholz looked. Granted this is a very weak Phillies line-up but he looked every bit a #1 starter and the pressure thst goes along with that. His location was outstanding, the curve looked great and he seemed to work very well with Hanigan. I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, how many times Clay shook him off. Very happy for Hanley also. Huge day! Both he and Masterson seem genuinely happy to be back with Boston. Dustin not only having a day we were used to seeing from him but not hurting himself on an opening day like the past two seasons. And then there was Mookie being Mookie...
Add to all of that the news on Porcello. I am just afraid the team has set the bar very high for the rest of the season, lol.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 6, 2015 19:51:15 GMT -5
For all the talk of the Red Sox having a bunch of #3 starters, I think we'll end up seeing a much more traditional distribution. Clay slots in as the #1, Porcello will pitch like a #2, Miley slots in as a solid #3, Kelly is decent as your #4, and Masterson struggles somewhat as your #5. Maybe swap the last two. I forget if I ever ended up posting this, but I had this rotation as 2-2-4-5-5 (Buchholz, Porcello, Miley, Kelly/Masterson) rather than 3-3-3-3-3. But, as we all know, Buchholz could slot in as a #1 if he pitches like he can, so it could very well look like a pretty normal pitching staff in the end, as you say... with all the nervousness of the back end of the rotation that that implies.
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Post by klostrophobic on Apr 6, 2015 20:14:55 GMT -5
Can't believe they ever traded this guy. MVP. And all they had was the 2007 World Series to show for it. They didn't win in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2014, though. Hanley could've helped there.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 6, 2015 21:08:25 GMT -5
And all they had was the 2007 World Series to show for it. They didn't win in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2014, though. Hanley could've helped there. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 6, 2015 21:38:18 GMT -5
roster construction trivia: Hanigan has not played minor league first base in many years. Leon never. So in these blowout games, emptying the bench is problematic, need to keep one versatile player available. Not Leon. (in case of injury)
Are we expecting Napoli at 1B vs the RHP on WED?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 6, 2015 21:46:29 GMT -5
roster construction trivia: Hanigan has not played minor league first base in many years. Leon never. So in these blowout games, emptying the bench is problematic, need to keep one versatile player available. Not Leon. (in case of injury) Are we expecting Napoli at 1B vs the RHP on WED? You lost me... Every single other bench player played extensively at 1st last year.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 6, 2015 22:10:17 GMT -5
Well this wasn't the 1927 Yankees they were playing, but overall a very good win. That's quite a lineup the Sox are hosting, one that may just get even better as the year goes on. Good depth, and some serious power in the middle of the order. And what can we say about Betts? After the HR, he was a little over-eager with the swing and he struck himself out on a bad pitch he shouldn't have swung at. I could see the wheels cranking as he walked away, and I mentally booked a walk for the guy in the next few at bats. He delivered. What a good one.
Great fun, just a start, but great fun.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 6, 2015 22:24:44 GMT -5
And all they had was the 2007 World Series to show for it. They didn't win in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2014, though. Hanley could've helped there. Without Beckett we don't win 2007. I take a WS win 100% of the time
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 6, 2015 22:35:18 GMT -5
People take that 2007 World Series for granted. Im sure there are plenty of Cubs fans who would mortgage their whole farm for a World Series.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 6, 2015 22:51:34 GMT -5
roster construction trivia: Hanigan has not played minor league first base in many years. Leon never. So in these blowout games, emptying the bench is problematic, need to keep one versatile player available. Not Leon. (in case of injury) Are we expecting Napoli at 1B vs the RHP on WED? You lost me... Every single other bench player played extensively at 1st last year. I lost you.
1. In prior years, if Salty were catching and Ross the only guy on the bench ... an unexpected injury would bring Ross into the game and move Salty to 1B. 2. If Leon is the only guy on the bench, and he comes in for the injured player ... now they've got 2 catchers in the field and both are "catcher only." 3. I suppose Ortiz is normally DH and he goes to 1B if there is an injury and Napoli moves somewhere else. 4. Often, a catcher would pinch-hit for Ortiz in a blowout. But if Leon does that and he cannot play a position, you need somebody else available on the bench. Bottom line, this roster is not ideal for an empty bench scenario.
Maybe this is meaningless because Hanigan could play 1B in a blowout game for a couple of innings. He's not a cripple.
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Post by bookiemetts on Apr 6, 2015 23:12:14 GMT -5
You lost me... Every single other bench player played extensively at 1st last year. I lost you.
1. In prior years, if Salty were catching and Ross the only guy on the bench ... an unexpected injury would bring Ross into the game and move Salty to 1B. 2. If Leon is the only guy on the bench, and he comes in for the injured player ... now they've got 2 catchers in the field and both are "catcher only." 3. I suppose Ortiz is normally DH and he goes to 1B if there is an injury and Napoli moves somewhere else. 4. Often, a catcher would pinch-hit for Ortiz in a blowout. But if Leon does that and he cannot play a position, you need somebody else available on the bench. Bottom line, this roster is not ideal for an empty bench scenario.
Maybe this is meaningless because Hanigan could play 1B in a blowout game for a couple of innings. He's not a cripple. Lol I hope I'm not the only one who has trouble following you here, but this makes no sense. This team overall has a lot of players who can play a bunch of positions in an emergency. Plus, what's the difference between Salty at first and Hanigan or Leon in a blowout?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2015 0:10:28 GMT -5
He's saying that because Hanigan/Leon don't play other positions, you can't empty the bench in a blowout, because if an injury occurs and the only guy on the bench is the non-starting catcher, you'd have to play one of them at first base and they've never done that before.
I mean, I guess that's true, but that literally is not something that teams think about when constructing a roster, so I don't see the problem.
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Post by charliezink16 on Apr 7, 2015 1:07:13 GMT -5
For every Kendrick Perkins, Williams Jerez, and Shaq Green-Thompson super-athlete you draft, you get a Mookie Betts.
I'd also like to thank all fantasy league rankings for gifting me Clay Buchholz in the last round every time. He's either terrible or excellent and a healthy year looks like the latter.
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Post by cologneredsox on Apr 7, 2015 4:11:54 GMT -5
You lost me... Every single other bench player played extensively at 1st last year. I lost you.
1. In prior years, if Salty were catching and Ross the only guy on the bench ... an unexpected injury would bring Ross into the game and move Salty to 1B. 2. If Leon is the only guy on the bench, and he comes in for the injured player ... now they've got 2 catchers in the field and both are "catcher only." 3. I suppose Ortiz is normally DH and he goes to 1B if there is an injury and Napoli moves somewhere else. 4. Often, a catcher would pinch-hit for Ortiz in a blowout. But if Leon does that and he cannot play a position, you need somebody else available on the bench. Bottom line, this roster is not ideal for an empty bench scenario.
Maybe this is meaningless because Hanigan could play 1B in a blowout game for a couple of innings. He's not a cripple.
Isn't the nice thing about blowouts that it is very unlikely a scenario like that is about to hurt you?
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 7, 2015 5:22:28 GMT -5
Fun with small samples. Pedroia accumulated 0.4 fWAR yesterday. In addition to his 624 wRC+ he also had one DRS.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 6:39:54 GMT -5
You lost me... Every single other bench player played extensively at 1st last year. I lost you.
1. In prior years, if Salty were catching and Ross the only guy on the bench ... an unexpected injury would bring Ross into the game and move Salty to 1B. 2. If Leon is the only guy on the bench, and he comes in for the injured player ... now they've got 2 catchers in the field and both are "catcher only." 3. I suppose Ortiz is normally DH and he goes to 1B if there is an injury and Napoli moves somewhere else. 4. Often, a catcher would pinch-hit for Ortiz in a blowout. But if Leon does that and he cannot play a position, you need somebody else available on the bench. Bottom line, this roster is not ideal for an empty bench scenario.
Maybe this is meaningless because Hanigan could play 1B in a blowout game for a couple of innings. He's not a cripple. Salty played a grand total of 3 innings at 1B for the Red Sox so this almost never happens. If the Red Sox are up by 10, I don't think the season would end if you put Hanigan or Leon at 1B. Hell, put Joe Kelly at 1B. He's a really good athlete.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 6:43:05 GMT -5
Fun with small samples. Pedroia accumulated 0.4 fWAR yesterday. In addition to he his 624 wRC+ he also had one DRS. On pace for the first 64 WAR player in baseball history.
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