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4/6-4/9 Red Sox @ Phillies Series Therad
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 6:58:23 GMT -5
Dammit, I hate myself for checking out for some crow eating on the Globe, but found a bunch of snarky bitter articles. Especially the Shaughnessy one. I should know better.
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Post by mannofsteele on Apr 7, 2015 7:04:39 GMT -5
Hanley, Pedroia, Buchholz and Mookie all beasting. This game is a Sox Prospects wet dream come to life. So true, I dvr'd the game, because it takes me 35 minutes to get home. I am so happy I did. I don't think I've had that much fun in the past handful of seasons. To see Pedroia take that inside pitch and jolt it out of the park, made me think 2007-2008. He looks rejuvenated and the top of the order is so pristine. All I can say to Hanley is welcome back to Boston. His power is unquestionable. Buchholz shocked me, I always knew he had the stuff. If he's healthy watch out 2013 prior to injury.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Apr 7, 2015 7:44:35 GMT -5
For every Kendrick Perkins, Williams Jerez, and Shaq Green-Thompson super-athlete you draft, you get a Mookie Betts. I'd also like to thank all fantasy league rankings for gifting me Clay Buchholz in the last round every time. He's either terrible or excellent and a healthy year looks like the latter. Isn't that first statement self-contradicting? I realize this first win is comforting and encouraging, but considering the competition, let's not get carried away here. And lets see how Porcello and Masterson do against this almost-all-lefty lineup. It's grumpy here, minimizing the first game effect -- and yes, I have two Grumpy tee shirts that I wear!!
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 7:47:50 GMT -5
For every Kendrick Perkins, Williams Jerez, and Shaq Green-Thompson super-athlete you draft, you get a Mookie Betts. I'd also like to thank all fantasy league rankings for gifting me Clay Buchholz in the last round every time. He's either terrible or excellent and a healthy year looks like the latter. Isn't that first statement self-contradicting? I realize this first win is comforting and encouraging, but considering the competition, let's not get carried away here. And lets see how Porcello and Masterson do against this almost-all-lefty lineup. It's grumpy here, minimizing the first game effect -- and yes, I have two Grumpy tee shirts that I wear!! That's not how it works. We only get grumpy after the first loss. Until then, it's 162-0!
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Apr 7, 2015 7:49:38 GMT -5
What a comprehensively enjoyable opening day. For me the biggest plus for the day was the way Buchholz looked. Granted this is a very weak Phillies line-up but he looked every bit a #1 starter and the pressure thst goes along with that. His location was outstanding, the curve looked great and he seemed to work very well with Hanigan. I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, how many times Clay shook him off. Very happy for Hanley also. Huge day! Both he and Masterson seem genuinely happy to be back with Boston. Dustin not only having a day we were used to seeing from him but not hurting himself on an opening day like the past two seasons. And then there was Mookie being Mookie...
Add to all of that the news on Porcello. I am just afraid the team has set the bar very high for the rest of the season, lol. Unfortunately for Masterson, SP has him slated to be gone again next year.
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Post by jchang on Apr 7, 2015 7:50:30 GMT -5
Fun with small samples. Pedroia accumulated 0.4 fWAR yesterday. In addition to he his 624 wRC+ he also had one DRS. On pace for the first 64 WAR player in baseball history. fWAR baseline is 52 wins, so Pedy + replacement level = 116 W, if we throw HR, then we be north of 162W?
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Post by radiohix on Apr 7, 2015 7:51:49 GMT -5
Just one game was enough for me to start hating Sandoval! I knew the guy was a hacker but good lord! At a certain point Hamels was trying to walk him and the fat guy was refusing! I knew the defense is good and all and really hope he proves me wrong but those Hamilton Crawford type of hitters are the ones that I have a big dislike for!
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 7:52:29 GMT -5
On pace for the first 64 WAR player in baseball history. fWAR baseline is 52 wins, so Pedy + replacement level = 116 W, if we throw HR, then we be north of 162W? So did Pedroia break WAR? More SSS fun - Betts is 4th on the team with a 1.800 OPS.
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Post by nomar on Apr 7, 2015 8:36:42 GMT -5
Just one game was enough for me to start hating Sandoval! I knew the guy was a hacker but good lord! At a certain point Hamels was trying to walk him and the fat guy was refusing! I knew the defense is good and all and really hope he proves me wrong but those Hamilton Crawford type of hitters are the ones that I have a big dislike for! I don't dislike him but he needs to stop batting right handed. I can see the Boston media eating him alive too. Hopefully he doesn't start too cold.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 8:56:16 GMT -5
Maybe I'm analyzing this too much, but it was only 4-0 when Sandberg left Diekman in to load the bases and then give up a grand slam to Hanley. Diekman seems like a LOOGY to me, but at the very least, let someone else face Hanley. Seemed a little bizarre because 4-0 isn't mop-up time, especially with a day off today.
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Post by nomar on Apr 7, 2015 8:59:03 GMT -5
Maybe I'm analyzing this too much, but it was only 4-0 when Sandberg left Diekman in to load the bases and then give up a grand slam to Hanley. Diekman seems like a LOOGY to me, but at the very least, let someone else face Hanley. Seemed a little bizarre because 4-0 isn't mop-up time, especially with a day off today. With that lineup, 4-0 is a mountain.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 7, 2015 9:01:03 GMT -5
Diekman seems like a LOOGY to me, 99 mph is 99 mph no matter which side of the plate you're standing on. Diekman has a career 2.91 FIP and 3.03 SIERA. Proposed alternative analysis: the Red Sox hitters are pretty good.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 9:10:45 GMT -5
Diekman seems like a LOOGY to me, 99 mph is 99 mph no matter which side of the plate you're standing on. Diekman has a career 2.91 FIP and 3.03 SIERA. Proposed alternative analysis: the Red Sox hitters are pretty good. He was clearly struggling and Hanley is a pretty good bet to not be phased by a 99 mph fastball thrown by a lefty. Reminds me of Barry Bonds pulling 500 foot fouls off Eric Gagne. I would have been bitching about it if it were reversed. Like I said, I'm probably overanalyzing.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 7, 2015 9:14:10 GMT -5
Hanley is a pretty good bet to not be phased by a 99 mph fastball Well, how are you gonna phase Hanley? Bring in Papelbon to stare at him?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 9:16:36 GMT -5
Hanley is a pretty good bet to not be phased by a 99 mph fastball Well, how are you gonna phase Hanley? Bring in Papelbon to stare at him? Probably aren't. But you could bring in a righty with good right handed batter splits who wasn't struggling.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 7, 2015 9:21:30 GMT -5
They did bring in a lefty to face Craig, Betts, Pedroia, Napoli, and Hanley. About the only thing it did was put Craig into the game instead of Nava.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 9:23:48 GMT -5
They did bring in a lefty to face Craig, Betts, Pedroia, Napoli, and Hanley. About the only thing it did was put Craig into the game instead of Nava. That too. It's like they weren't even trying.
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Post by klostrophobic on Apr 7, 2015 9:25:02 GMT -5
They didn't win in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 or 2014, though. Hanley could've helped there. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I count six in the bush.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 7, 2015 9:31:32 GMT -5
Abraham has some baseball knowledge. He's not that good, but he's not bad. This from his game story, about Buchholz: "His selection to start the first game was more of a nod toward his tenure with the team than anything else." Holy crap, Peter, you don't think it had anything to do with him being the best pitcher in MLB, by a wide margin, just two years ago?bWAR / 30 GS (minimum 15 GS, of which there were precisely 150 pitchers) 5. Jose Fernandez, 6.8 4. Chris Sale, 6.9 3. Cliff Lee, 7.1 2. Clayton Kershaw, 7.1 1. Clay Buchholz, 8.1
It's one to thing to never mention the most important bit of context to your story, and another to actively state the opposite. Really, he and Cafardo are an embarrassment. And I've reached my breaking point. Anyone who wants to co-sign a not-for-publication letter to the Globe sports editor, like this post.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2015 9:48:26 GMT -5
Abraham has some baseball knowledge. He's not that good, but he's not bad. This from his game story, about Buchholz: "His selection to start the first game was more of a nod toward his tenure with the team than anything else." Holy crap, Peter, you don't think it had anything to do with him being the best pitcher in MLB, by a wide margin, just two years ago?bWAR / 30 GS (minimum 15 GS, of which there were precisely 150 pitchers) 5. Jose Fernandez, 6.8 4. Chris Sale, 6.9 3. Cliff Lee, 7.1 2. Clayton Kershaw, 7.1 1. Clay Buchholz, 8.1
It's one to thing to never mention the most important bit of context to your story, and another to actively state the opposite. Really, he and Cafardo are an embarrassment. And I've reached my breaking point. Anyone who wants to co-sign a not-for-publication letter to the Globe sports editor, like this post. And Buchhholz was horrible last year. I agree with Abraham's statement 100%. Read it in context - it's not like they're giving the clear worst pitcher the start, but his point is that it's not like Buchholz is clearly better than Porcello. That Buchholz is the returning guy is what tipped it in his favor. I feel like this is pretty clear, honestly. At one point Roy Halliday was the best pitcher in baseball. Doesn't mean he should be starting on opening day right now. Who cares about 2013 when he was terrible last year and is a bit of a headcase? Seniority is absolutely the primary reason why he was starting on opening day, at least among these starters. If they went and signed Scherzer, then fine, but the point is that Porcello wasn't better by enough for them not to give the nod to the one guy coming back from last opening day. Also, making all of one's starts and staying healthy is a skill that the metric you used here ignores, or actually completely forgive a pitcher for. Give me Kershaw's 7.9 WAR over 236 innings over Buchholz's 4.3 over 108 any day.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 7, 2015 9:54:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the analysis. I was going to say, the last time the "good Clay" showed up, he was a Cy Young candidate. If that guy makes it around this year and if he stays healthy - a big if - does that guy qualify as the mythical #1?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 10:05:10 GMT -5
22K/4BB in spring training is plenty good enough of a reason for Buchholz to start opening day regardless of seniority. When he isn't walking guys and still striking guys out, he is one of the best pitchers in baseball.
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Post by nexus on Apr 7, 2015 10:07:24 GMT -5
According to Brooks, Clay was sitting 94.0 FB, 93.2 SI, and 90.3 FC yesterday. His max was 95.2, which happened to be the 2nd to last pitch he threw in the 7th.
This is compared to his 1st start against MIL on 4/5/14 when he averaged 91.4 FB, 91.0 SI, and 87.5 FC... and was lit up for 13H & 6ER over 4+ frames.
For reference, he averaged around 93.0 FB, 92.5 SI, and 89.0 FC during the first few starts of what turned out to be a dominant run in 2013.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2015 10:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the analysis. I was going to say, the last time the "good Clay" showed up, he was a Cy Young candidate. If that guy makes it around this year and if he stays healthy - a big if - does that guy qualify as the mythical #1? He absolutely looked like 2013 Clay yesterday. Pinpoint control of 4 pitches. Almost no mistakes. The only question is health at this point, like always. I hope Farrell keeps him on a short leash and doesn't push him into the 130s for pitch counts.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 7, 2015 10:40:36 GMT -5
Exactly, the question is almost always health with Clay.
If Clay is healthy, he can easily pitch like the ace everyone says the Sox need. That's certainly what he looked like yesterday.
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