2015 Post-Draft Discussion Thread

Some get 10k also, as we saw. My points are the only real concession the MLBPA has gotten for amateur players, or minor league kids is that they can become FA after 4y of toiling within an organization rather than 6y and that's it for how many negotiation periods?

How many times has the league minimum salary increased to over half a million dollars, as it currently stands? Why can't the Union, which is supposed to stand for the "working class" do just that for ONCE with future employees of it's organization? Is it because these silent people just don't pay dues yet and have a vote? They just don't matter, so their rights can be trampled on by both sides and be abused by BOTH sides and treated like second class citizens?

I have ideas and always have with regards to solutions and it's a"peoples of the middle way" as well.

The MLBPA and Clubs should have their own housing, at all levels for it's players located close to minor league fields. Not that expensive and better than having players spread all over town. Walking distance would be best, but bus transport to games would work also. MiLB teams used to do this in some ways. Believe the Sox GCL team still uses dorm housing for players? Team could lease older hotels, or rooms of a hotel for all of it's players near location of each stadium. Each and every team in the league could be doing this.

Both parties refuse to address the issue of housing and pay. It is not just the fault of one side.

Woooo Benny Baseball!

Well, the SP brass have indeed put Benintendi ahead of Kopech (at 7 because Swihart graduated). More interesting to me is that they put his floor at 4 ("Impactful Bench Player"). That seems absurdly optimistic to me - anyone who has never hit with a wooden bat before has got to have a realistic chance to not have an MLB career.

Lets ease up on the wooden bat business. Not to say it doesn't matter at all, but his numbers in the SEC simply can't be discounted when they are better than every other players'. I don't think its that crazy to say that the worst case scenario (barring unforeseen injury) is that of a bench player.

My point is not so much about the wooden bats, it's more that he has never played professionally and the way to the majors is long, even for an advanced college player. You can certainly give him a lower bust chance then other draftees but it's definitely not 0%.

....and yet he is a bench player should be the conclusion to your sentence.

I think Benintendi is the most advanced player moving entering the pros that the Red Sox have drafted in my baseball-watching life. Garciaparra is the only possible other choice - and he was in the majors 26 months after being drafted. I would be totally unsurprised to see him in the majors at midseason 2017.

Also, college stats and scouting matter. They are playing the same game, and the new composite bats they started using play much closer to wood than the aluminum ones.

The Red Sox have an absolutely ridiculous amount of under-25 position player talent who I could reasonably see winning an MVP award someday: Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart, Moncada, Devers, and Benintendi are all that good. Maybe Margot too.

Unrelated side note: We're seeing this year how hard it is to evaluate drafts immediately. With the re-emergence of Light and Buttrey and the continued improvement of Johnson the 2012 draft, amazingly, looks pretty good right now.

I thought that we had a couple hundred thousand extra in addition to the 100K base for each player. I think at this point, because of Benintendi and a few other recent signings getting slot, I think that we will only be able to get EITHER Brakeman or Valentin. I imagine that if we shift all of the remaining money to one of those players that one of them will sign, and my uneducated guess is more likely that it'll be Valentin.

Actually I should have said Marrero ONLY had an OPS of about 780 his last two years of college (780 is not so hot in college), whereas Benintendi had an OPS of 1200 this year. Sorry that the point wasn't clear.

Marrero so far has reached 3 on the SP.com scale ("up and down player"), not 4 ("impactful bench player").

Pedroia did not "destroy" A ball pitchers. Baseball Reference