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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 9, 2015 15:25:13 GMT -5
Castillo may have to move to LF — Margot is reputed to be the real deal with the glove. Margot is not tearing up Portland (.245/.301/.371/.671 with 1 HR). JBJ hit much better there and also hit much better at Salem. Bradley also is a better fielder. A lot of hype of Margot not yet justified by his stats. He's tailed off recently however he is one of the youngest players in the league.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 9, 2015 15:30:50 GMT -5
Bradley increased his OPS by 126 points today, to .559. His OBP is about double his BA. That, great eye, and most of his minor league track record of hitting for average along with his gold glove caliber defense in center is why I hope we don't give him up. I'd want to mid-season next season before doing so. He was promoted to early, I said it then, and it set him back. His ability to come back from that bodes well for his future, the kid is mentally strong and does have the ability.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 9, 2015 15:31:37 GMT -5
Castillo may have to move to LF — Margot is reputed to be the real deal with the glove. Margot is not tearing up Portland (.245/.301/.371/.671 with 1 HR). JBJ hit much better there and also hit much better at Salem. Bradley also is a better fielder. A lot of hype of Margot not yet justified by his stats. JBJ was two years older at the same levels that Margot is/was. That's a huge deal.
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Post by danr on Aug 9, 2015 15:31:45 GMT -5
This might have been a completely different game if the outfield defense had not been so good.
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Post by danr on Aug 9, 2015 15:39:15 GMT -5
JBJ was two years older at the same levels that Margot is/was. That's a huge deal. Yes, it means he has more time to improve. But right now he is not the player that Bradley was when he was at Portland. Perhaps the Sox will not rush him like they did Bradley.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 9, 2015 15:51:29 GMT -5
JBJ was two years older at the same levels that Margot is/was. That's a huge deal. Yes, it means he has more time to improve. But right now he is not the player that Bradley was when he was at Portland. Perhaps the Sox will not rush him like they did Bradley. Yes, he isn't the player Bradley was at AA, because he got there 2 years earlier.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 9, 2015 15:54:33 GMT -5
JBJ was two years older at the same levels that Margot is/was. That's a huge deal. Yes, it means he has more time to improve. But right now he is not the player that Bradley was when he was at Portland. Perhaps the Sox will not rush him like they did Bradley. That's like saying that Xander Bogaerts wasn't the player Daniel Nava was in the majors last year.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 9, 2015 15:56:07 GMT -5
“@brianmacp: Justin Masterson just came out of a meeting with John Farrell, Carl Willis, and is shaking hands with teammates.”
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 9, 2015 15:56:20 GMT -5
Margot was inspired today by Mookie in the house — three doubles and a SB; Mookie was inspired by this young 'un on the way — two hits w/ a HR. Fattening up those career AA stats.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 9, 2015 16:00:38 GMT -5
Congrats Henry Owens on your first big league Win. Also, JBJ with a good day. These guys are apparently going to be getting a lot of reps in the next few months. Hoping they win as many games as possible to get some confidence going into next year.
I could care less about a high draft pick. Let's win many games and hit the ground running next year.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 9, 2015 16:03:05 GMT -5
“@jcmccaffrey: Farrell said they’ll add a bullpen arm for Masterson. So DFA of Masterson not the move for Mookie. Farrell said moves to come in 48 hours”
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 9, 2015 16:07:10 GMT -5
“@peteabe: #RedSox sent Uehara back to Boston to get checked.”
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Post by gerry on Aug 9, 2015 16:09:59 GMT -5
So very happy for Jbj and the Red Sox. Recent success with some hard contact and sac fly, and involved in all 7 runs today. Something from his AAA AB dominance finally clicked. Worth the wait.
Whatever arrangement of Betts, Bradley and Castillo in the OF in 2016, the Sox will have the best OF defense in baseball, a couple of excellent arms, with decent to very good bats, and exceptional on base speed. Halleluia. It's a good start towards the 'next great team.'
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 9, 2015 16:28:33 GMT -5
Bob Dutton @tnt_Mariners
#Mariners trade Tacoma 3B Carlos Rivero to Boston for cash.
Really don't get that.
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Post by mattpicard on Aug 9, 2015 16:57:41 GMT -5
Bob Dutton @tnt_Mariners #Mariners trade Tacoma 3B Carlos Rivero to Boston for cash. Really don't get that. Pawtucket barely has a bench these days, plus a catcher is DH'ing. Rivero is a useful plug, but that says more about the state of that roster than it does about him. That said, adding an outfielder would have made a bit more sense, with Berry being the only natural OF active on the squad. --- Pete Abraham @peteabe 30m30 minutes ago Of note: Farrell left open the idea of Betts playing a corner OF spot. So Bradley could play some more in CF. Under discussion. I'm a huge proponent of this. While JBJ's defense can be an asset in Fenway's RF, I think he has to be in center when he's in the lineup. Somewhat questionably, the Sox have never thrown Betts or Castillo into left field at any level. Mookie comes off as more of a LF than a RF, while the opposite is true for Rusney, but Mookie strikes me as being a little more reliable. Shouldn't matter much -- the team should look to get them each exposure at both spots the rest of this season.
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Post by libertine on Aug 9, 2015 17:18:51 GMT -5
I would like to see Mookie in RF when he returns. Based on his playing the game at 110% he is less likely to crash into something and hurt himself there. And as good as he has been in CF, JBJ is still the elite defensive CF in this organization...
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 9, 2015 17:31:32 GMT -5
I would like to see Mookie in RF when he returns. Based on his playing the game at 110% he is less likely to crash into something and hurt himself there. And as good as he has been in CF, JBJ is still the elite defensive CF in this organization... Mookie's arm is lacking, which I believe makes LF a better fit.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 9, 2015 17:46:10 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe 30m30 minutes ago Of note: Farrell left open the idea of Betts playing a corner OF spot. So Bradley could play some more in CF. Under discussion. I'm a huge proponent of this. While JBJ's defense can be an asset in Fenway's RF, I think he has to be in center when he's in the lineup. Somewhat questionably, the Sox have never thrown Betts or Castillo into left field at any level. Mookie comes off as more of a LF than a RF, while the opposite is true for Rusney, but Mookie strikes me as being a little more reliable. Shouldn't matter much -- the team should look to get them each exposure at both spots the rest of this season. I am pretty ambivalent about this type of move and it smells of SSS revision. It is apparent, and has been for a while that JBJ is the best centerfielder and should play the position if he is productive at the plate, but you've now invested over a 1/2 season of Mookie learning the position, just to move him. Ben spoke recently about trying to get away from these type of changes. "One of the things we have been faced with the last two years — and I’m taking responsibility for this — we’ve had a lot of transition,” Cherington said, via The Providence Journal. “Young player to the big leagues, that’s one form of transition. Players in a new environment is another form of transition. Players in a new role or a new position is another form of transition. We’ve had a lot of that the last two years, and sometimes along with transition, it can affect performance. We’ve seen that over time historically."
I don't know what the correct answer is, but unless you send JBJ back down when Mookie comes back, your are basically screwing Castillo out of at bats, because Hanley isn't going anywhere else this season. Castillo needs his development time also at this point. It's a byproduct of very poor planning.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 9, 2015 17:59:58 GMT -5
Mookie to LF when he comes back. It's that simple. need I remind you Jackie Bradley Jr. is still sitting on a cool 43 wRC+ even with that HR? And we want to move one of the best young CFs in the game off CF for him? Lol I do think I need to remind you that JBJ was the second best age 25-and-under hitter in all of AAA this year, with a 150 RC+. Which is actually much more predictive than a small sample size of MLB PA in the same season. Folks have noted that JBJ has seemed to face an inordinately tough group of opposing pitchers this year, and this is absolutely true; out of 428 MLB players with 70 or more PA, he is tied for 59th in lowest OPS allowed by opposing pitchers. There are MLB hitters who have a big quality of opponents split: they really struggle against quality pitching, but, given that, hit surprisingly well against inferior pitching. If JBJ has that split, it would explain why his AAA / MLB splits have been larger than usual (within each year) and why he's struggled this year against an unusually tough group of opponents. Coming into today, Clay Davenport had the MLE of his AAA ball at .306 / .379 / .506, for a .294 TAv / EqA, and his overall line as .274 / .359 / .447, a .276 TAv. If I'm right about the quality-of-opponent split, both lines are too rosy. But how far off do we think they are? If his actual TAv is .245 or .250, he's a 3.0 WAR player. If it's .260, he's closing in on 4.0. I'm pretty confident that he's somewhere between replacement level and average at the plate, and given his defense, that's a first-division MLB starter.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 9, 2015 18:12:51 GMT -5
Like we said, Mookie to LF. It's that simple.
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 9, 2015 18:15:14 GMT -5
Bye bye Masterson.
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Post by danr on Aug 9, 2015 18:17:40 GMT -5
Right now Hanley is so banged up and out of whack at the plate that he could use some time off, even a visit to the DL.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 9, 2015 18:28:06 GMT -5
“@jackiebradleyjr: I was in no way trying to make it seem like I was ”calling out“ anyone. It was suppose to be motivational but got taken out of context.”
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Post by danr on Aug 9, 2015 18:29:19 GMT -5
Yes, it means he has more time to improve. But right now he is not the player that Bradley was when he was at Portland. Perhaps the Sox will not rush him like they did Bradley. That's like saying that Xander Bogaerts wasn't the player Daniel Nava was in the majors last year. You guys missed my point, which was in response to some posting about Margot being in the Sox OF in 2017. Maybe I should have structured it differently. What I meant is that Margot is not close to being ready for the big leagues. One more year probably will not be enough because he is not as advanced as was JBJ when he was at AA. However, I don't think his age has much to do with the difference between their fielding and throwing skills. From all reports, Margot is very good, but JBJ is in a class by himself, probably the best fielding and throwing CF in all of baseball.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 9, 2015 18:30:09 GMT -5
If JBJ get regular playing time, I'm sure he'll put more Wins than Ramirez and the fat guy combined*. *Not a hard task I must confess
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