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Post by geostorm on Nov 24, 2015 22:11:03 GMT -5
It did kind of go in their favor-- the whistle was blown while the ball was still in the air, so it should have been a do-over rather than a completed pass. (Of course, had the whistle not been blown, it might have gone for a big play, but hard to say for sure-- the CB slowed up once the whistle was blown.)
Also, the persecution complex among Patriots fans is just the worst. For instance, the last play of the game should have been out of bounds and given the Bills a hail mary shot. Guess what-- nobody but a few hardcore Bills fans care. Huh? Regarding your sweeping generalization, "among Patriots fans", where you initially focused on the disposition of a couple of plays, in a single game - Humor me - I'd appreciate you fleshing out your opinion, jmei, given, your "For instance,...", doesn't support it, imo. |
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Post by jmei on Nov 24, 2015 22:17:15 GMT -5
You know what I'm talking about. I'm fine if you disagree and am not particularly interested in running it to the ground.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 25, 2015 9:47:41 GMT -5
Chung is terrible in coverage away from the box. BB basically acknowledges this when he talks about why he's been more successful with the team this go round. They don't use him in those situations much. Their hand was forced, although I'd like to see Richards or Harmon given a chance in those situations.
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Post by jmei on Nov 29, 2015 20:47:02 GMT -5
...and THAT'S why Scott Chandler hasn't been a bigger part of this offense. Just such inconsistent (read: bad) hands.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 29, 2015 23:33:59 GMT -5
Doesn't get more disheartening than that. F**k.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Nov 29, 2015 23:43:08 GMT -5
Because, NFL Refs.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Nov 29, 2015 23:50:44 GMT -5
Gostkowski!! Clutch!! Love that drive. Refs tried to screw them again and still made the plays. Gotta have it in OT.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 29, 2015 23:58:46 GMT -5
That was a sketchy game by NFL officials.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Nov 30, 2015 0:00:16 GMT -5
How does a 10-1 team seemed cursed? Unreal. Terrible officiating. Even more injuries, to even more important players. Very unfortunate.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 30, 2015 0:03:24 GMT -5
The OPI on Gronk and hold on Chung were very bizarre calls. Then there was the missed PI in OT when LaFell was blatantly being held.
About 5 years ago, NFL officiating was the best in pro sports. It feels like the WWE now.
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Post by heisenberg on Nov 30, 2015 0:07:29 GMT -5
The OPI on Gronk and hold on Chung were very bizarre calls. Then there was the missed PI in OT when LaFell was blatantly being held. About 5 years ago, NFL officiating was the best in pro sports. It feels like WWE now. I'm surprised it took this long for these shenanigans to start. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 30, 2015 0:09:06 GMT -5
The Chung holding in the endzone was not a bad call actually all things considered, he did grab the offensive player. I have seen that call over and over and over this year, he should have known better. The OPI on Gronk, the egregious non PI on LaFell and the holding on what I believe was McCourty on the final Anderson run were all far worse.
F**k this game, I don't even wanna read anything about Gronk. It was so, so sad.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 30, 2015 0:17:20 GMT -5
The Chung holding in the endzone was not a bad call actually all things considered, he did grab the offensive player. I have seen that call over and over and over this year, he should have known better. The OPI on Gronk, the egregious non PI on LaFell and the holding on what I believe was McCourty on the final Anderson run were all far worse. F**k this game, I don't even wanna read anything about Gronk. It was so, so sad. It was extremely soft, and a little bit late. The other egregious piece of officiating: the non-launching call on Denver right after the egregious OPI on Gronk. That one was so, so blatant. All in all, the NFL just feels sketchy and incompetent. That, plus the injuries plus the scandals are making it unenjoyable to follow, even when your team's winning. |
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 30, 2015 0:24:24 GMT -5
Initial post game word is that Gronk's injury isn't serious (per Schefter, Breer, Florio, Rap, etc. -- broken by Dianna Russini from SC). Who'd have thought based on that immediate reaction, but fantastic news.
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Post by philarhody on Nov 30, 2015 0:27:14 GMT -5
I know that spoiled New England fans whine when their team doesn't win. And that's a shame. Because I can't remember an NFL game this poorly officiated in such a one sided manner.
I agree with Caballero on the Chung call. Stupid play by a scared, overmatched strong safety.
But lets not forget the phantom Shaq Mason hold that brought back Brady's 51 yard game ender to Keshawn Martin, the running into the kicker that was not called at midfield, as well as a no call on Denver's go ahead touchdown where an offensive lineman had illegal hands to the face.
Of course none of it matters because if Gronk is out for the year (which is likely) the Pats can say goodbye to ending the year in San Fran
quick note: hopefully i stand corrected on Gronk!
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 30, 2015 0:28:56 GMT -5
I know that spoiled New England fans whine when their team doesn't win. And that's a shame. Because I can't remember an NFL game this poorly officiated in such a one sided manner. I agree with Caballero on the Chung call. Stupid play by a scared, overmatched strong safety. But lets not forget the phantom Shaq Mason hold that brought back Brady's 51 yard game ender to Keshawn Martin, the running into the kicker that was not called at midfield, as well as a no call on Denver's go ahead touchdown where an offensive lineman had illegal hands to the face. Of course none of it matters because if Gronk is out for the year (which is likely) the Pats can say goodbye to ending the year in San Fran quick note: hopefully i stand corrected on Gronk! It's sounding unlikely that Gronk's injury is serious. |
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Nov 30, 2015 1:46:17 GMT -5
I could care less if this team loses a few regular season games. Just need Gronk, Edelman, Amendola, Collins, and Hightower healthy for playoffs.
Officiating was reallllly sketchy. I don't like to bitch about it at all, but lots of plays had me wondering wtf was up. It happens. Rather it happen now than in February.
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Post by texs31 on Nov 30, 2015 7:45:18 GMT -5
Not to pile on buy the lack of a call on the illegal hands to the face on Denver during the game winner was pretty bad too.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 30, 2015 11:26:37 GMT -5
That hands to the face was blatant and easy to see. Definitely a one sided affair from the refs but the Patriots lost because they muffed a punt and played so poorly on offense their defense ran out of gas. If they controlled the things they could the refs wouldn't have mattered.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 30, 2015 11:49:05 GMT -5
That hands to the face was blatant and easy to see. Definitely a one sided affair from the refs but the Patriots lost because they muffed a punt and played so poorly on offense their defense ran out of gas. If they controlled the things they could the refs wouldn't have mattered. They played about how anyone should expect them to against a good defense without most of their offensive weapons available. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 30, 2015 11:57:56 GMT -5
That hands to the face was blatant and easy to see. Definitely a one sided affair from the refs but the Patriots lost because they muffed a punt and played so poorly on offense their defense ran out of gas. If they controlled the things they could the refs wouldn't have mattered. They played about how anyone should expect them to against a good defense without most of their offensive weapons available. I don't it's tricky. They scored some points on big plays but they didn't move the ball at all and while I don't care about time of possession they three and outs killed the defense late in the game. McDaniels had a good game plan, but Brady got tunnel vision and missed too many throws. They needed Brady to play better and he didn't. Missed too many throws that were there and didn't give the defense a chance to rest as a result. |
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 30, 2015 12:24:07 GMT -5
I thought the play calling was weird, but in what world did Brady miss too many throws?
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Post by ramireja on Nov 30, 2015 12:29:14 GMT -5
Was there ever any clarification on the clock oddities that occurred before OT?
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Post by chavopepe2 on Nov 30, 2015 12:31:46 GMT -5
I thought the play calling was weird, but in what world did Brady miss too many throws? I didn't like the play calling at all. For a long stretch it looked predictable and desperate mixing in deep balls with futile runs up the middle. They went completely against what has made them successful... Admittedly in large part due to personnel. |
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Post by texs31 on Nov 30, 2015 12:42:04 GMT -5
Was there ever any clarification on the clock oddities that occurred before OT? I thought they said that the officials called it correctly based on the rule. If I understand it correctly, though, the rule is dumb. At the end of the game, if time is stopped for you injured player, their is either a runoff or you lose a timeout. If you don't have a timeout then . . . nothing actually happens except that we'll announce that you were awarded an extra timeout but we won't treat it like a timeout so the clock will start when the ball is set. Further, we won't let anyone know that this timeout is not actually a timeout. Again, though, not the cause of the loss |
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