2016 Boston Celtics Offseason Thread

I never said he won't become a star or learn to shoot, but I don't think making it to the line 17 times in a summer league game and overall not shooting well (based on the box score), is anything to be excited about.

I guess the only question I have regarding the "dont' trade assets" comment is whether or not certain players will remain assets if they pine away on the bench, not improving their value (that's a question, albeit one that reeks of my opinion, admittedly).

I do still wonder what Philly might reasonably accept for Noel. He would still fit that Rim Protector/Crasher that Stevens likes. Obviously, I would continue to hold onto anything resembling the 3rd pick (whether it be Brown or the BRK picks). But maybe, when Philly comes to their senses, there is another deal to be made.

James Young in no way deserves the label of one of worst players to ever wear a Celtics Jersey, not yet anyway.  He's very young and raw.  I think we need to move on because we just don't have the roster space and playing time he needs to develop.  Not because he has no talent.  I also wouldn't call Young an average athlete.  His biggest problem is Basketball IQ at this point.  He is thinking things through way to much, rather than just playing.  He reminds me a ton of Gerald Green.  One day light will go on and he'll become a useful role player.  Chances are though that happens with another team.  He needs to be on a rebuilding team, not a team that's trying to win .

Hunter has earned Stevens trust, as he said so.  Asked at end of year what Hunter did to start earning playing time, he said his improved D was the reason.  Hunter came from a small low level College, so it was expected that he would need time to adjust to playing against better competition.  His two biggest question marks coming out of College was D and level of competition.  So fact that he improved D enough in rookie year to earn minutes is a huge plus in my book.

I think Stevens understands how good of a shooter Hunter is better than you do.  He gets to see him everyday in practice.  Just think Bradley and his first two years.  He couldn't shoot well during games, but Doc kept telling people he's a good shooter, he makes them in practice all the time.  By year three he was a good shooter.  Young players take time to develop.  

Which players are you referring to? Young and Hunter don't really have any value at this point. I like Rozier and think he helps fill the roll that Turner left, but sure, if you could get a better player for him then go for it.

Same thing with Smart. I'm fine with trading him if you think it's an upgrade and giving Rozier his minutes.

But don't trade the BKN picks, don't trade Brown, and don't flush the longer term good contracts like Crowder for a rental.

It's not "exactly the same" and it's frankly ridiculous that you think it is. Those Celtic "superteams" you're referring to were built thru the draft and trades, not great players deciding to get together and cakewalk to titles. And there hasn't been a Celtic team (at least in about a half century) that was so good they threatened to render the entire season a formality.

Even if they were, I don't fault any GM for making their team as great as they can- that's their job. But I do blame supposed great players who try to take shortcuts to titles at the expense of the league's competitive balance.

I really don't see any reason to continue responding to this.

Bulpett sees the Cs core as:

Thomas, Bradley, Horford, Olynyk, Crowder, Smart, Rozier, Mickey and Brown. Still room for Johnson and Jerebko. Also doesn't mean Young and Hunter couldn't earn time.

Feels Sully and Zeller will get offers that Boston won't match.

Also says the word is that Danny is still holding firm on his predraft trade offers.

They could also trade the picks. I named Hayward partially because I believe he would come here. Im not sure endorsement babies like Westbrook and Griffin would.

Maybe Millsap or Lowry although idk much about either.

Yabusele could definitely be in better shape, and I imagine the goal is to put him on a pro conditioning program and see whether he can lose the extra weight. He's not an elite athlete, but he's quick and long and has a very well-rounded package of skills. Probably not a star, but getting a solid rotation player at 16 is nothing to be upset about.

They were observations not conclusions.  You don't need more than one game to tell that a guy is fat and can't jump.  Did you watch the game?

There were a lot of players available at #16 better than Yabusele, even Danny would agree. He was trying to keep the roster as clean as possible, so they could sign 2 max deals and trade for another larger contract.

Anyone know why Davis fell so far in the draft? Injury?

No chance I'm giving up on James Young. Team needs shooting and the kid can shoot. I don't pay any attention to his numbers in limited action it's all about getting comfortable. There will be opportunity. Injuries happen and if his defense and maturity take a jump he will have an opportunity. We knew he was a project when drafted so the fact he's been a project shouldn't change much. Kid is still just 20.