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Post by jimed14 on Jul 4, 2016 16:25:09 GMT -5
Yeah, especially when Shaw was OPS'ing over 1.000 at the time. Is this your idea of an above 3rd grade level argument? Probably, since they teach you that hot streaks aren't real in 4th grade. Tell that to Sandy Leon.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2016 16:29:04 GMT -5
Nice win today. Sad we have to score so much, but it is what it is. Reminds me of the Sox games I watched (listened to) growing up.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 4, 2016 16:30:20 GMT -5
Rick Porcello is now 10-2
Proven winner.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 4, 2016 16:31:49 GMT -5
Nice win today. Sad we have to score so much, but it is what it is. Reminds me of the Sox games I watched (listened to) growing up. Are you talking the mid to late 70's sox with rice, Lynn, Evans, yaz, burleson, Hobson, etc?
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Post by larrycook on Jul 4, 2016 16:34:19 GMT -5
Rick Porcello is now 10-2 Proven winner. He has to rank near the top of the league in average run support per start.
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 4, 2016 16:38:44 GMT -5
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 4, 2016 16:41:31 GMT -5
Reminds me of the Sox games I watched (listened to) growing up. Are you talking the mid to late 70's sox with rice, Lynn, Evans, yaz, burleson, Hobson, etc? Boomer and The Crunch Bunch. (that was a bittersweet team for me, for the obvious reason)
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Post by trotfan on Jul 4, 2016 16:45:15 GMT -5
What a great team win !!! Happy 4th Redsox fans !! 2.5 back and gaining with motivated players and GM it's looking pretty good now 72 hours ago is well in the rear view
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 4, 2016 16:48:10 GMT -5
Game ball to my man Sandy. He has changed the team culture and erased the need for a DH next season.
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 4, 2016 16:50:27 GMT -5
Ugh we get to watch Hanigan ruin Steven Wright starts again? Yuck.
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Post by nomar on Jul 4, 2016 16:50:58 GMT -5
This is the first complete, non-interrupted win I've been able to watch in a while.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 4, 2016 16:53:19 GMT -5
Rick Porcello is now 10-2 Proven winner. He has to rank near the top of the league in average run support per start It's the highest scoring team in MLB. It would be tough not to get at least some of that run support. You've probably figured it's just another random variable.
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 4, 2016 16:57:14 GMT -5
Jason Mastrodonato @jmastrodonato 22m22 minutes ago Christian Vazquez is being optioned to triple-A Pawtucket. Sandy Leon stays. Ryan Hanigan to be activated from DL.
Jason Mastrodonato @jmastrodonato 21m21 minutes ago Clay Buchholz officially to the bullpen for the time being. Sean O'Sullivan to start on Friday.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2016 16:59:06 GMT -5
Reminds me of the Sox games I watched (listened to) growing up. Are you talking the mid to late 70's sox with rice, Lynn, Evans, yaz, burleson, Hobson, etc? Yeah that time with the Crunch Bunch and even earlier in a time warp with Williams, Jensen, Malzone, Gernert, Piersal, Geiger, Pete Runnels (who never hit less than .314 in 5 seasons with the Sox). We could score but were mostly doomed to play catch up. I remember so many players from other teams eating our pitchers' lunch (besides the Yankees). Gene Freeze, Roy Sievers hit something like .500 against us. I think that our best left handed pitcher was Bob 'Riverboat' Smith...with a sky high ERA (before FIP, xFIP etc.)
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Post by mgoetze on Jul 4, 2016 17:02:06 GMT -5
Really though, who is making these decisions? "Hm, Clay Buchholz or Sean O'Sullivan, I guess O'Sullivan is better"... really?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 4, 2016 17:04:50 GMT -5
No surprises here. Leon is ridiculous (for now), Hannigan needs the reps to get his catching chops down, and Vazquez has options. I do feel bad for Hannigan - and Wright - when it comes to that knuckler thang.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 4, 2016 17:13:26 GMT -5
Ugh we get to watch Hanigan ruin Steven Wright starts again? Yuck. kill joy
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Post by jchang on Jul 4, 2016 17:18:16 GMT -5
couldn't we have waited until after Wed to bring up Hanigan? O'Sullivan could pitch on the 9th, then still make the AAA All-Star on short rest?
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Jul 4, 2016 17:35:19 GMT -5
Pretty sure Sandy is not a true talent .500 hitter but I want him to get enough PA to show if this is entirely a lucky hot streak or if it is influenced in any way by a change in approach.
Sorry but the potential to have even a .250 hitting catcher just has me drooling
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 4, 2016 17:45:14 GMT -5
Really though, who is making these decisions? "Hm, Clay Buchholz or Sean O'Sullivan, I guess O'Sullivan is better"... really? Tony Larussa? Jerry Remy? Dennis Eckersly?
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 4, 2016 17:54:40 GMT -5
Game ball to my man Sandy. He has changed the team culture and erased the need for a DH next season. And a shout out to the Manager who brought him back up, played him and stuck with him in all situations.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 4, 2016 21:02:01 GMT -5
Great game. Another game where the Sox are put in the hole by the starting pitcher right away but Porcello did turn it around.
Meanwhile the whole lineup raked and showed if they can score 12 runs per game then it's tough to beat the Red Sox.
As far as Sandy Leon goes I've seen two stretches that remind me of this. Rudy Pemberton hit over .500 for over 40 something ABs - I think it was in 1996 and he got a platoon gig in 1997 being the RH side of the platoon with Troy O'Leary. He quickly proved to be useless and was gone thereafter.
I remember a year later in 1998 the hopelessly overmatched Mike Benjamin had a hot streak for about 50 ABs. It allowed him to hit .272 or something like that when he was normally a .200 hitter. That was as fluky as they come.
I just took a closer look at Leon's minor league numbers hoping there was something there that said he could hit. Other than a half season of .300 hitting in 2012 Sandy Leon was a pretty lousy minor league hitting catcher. He did draw some walks, though, so there is that. And he only has about a dozen less hits than Vazquez does in over 100 less ABs so we are about to enter the short-lived Sandy Leon era.
With Swihart and Vazquez and even Hanigan as our catchers who among us thought that Sandy Leon would emerge as our starting catcher?
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Post by Guidas on Jul 4, 2016 21:17:58 GMT -5
Probably, since they teach you that hot streaks aren't real in 4th grade. Tell that to Sandy Leon. Sandy Leon is about to become a 1.0 fWAR player. He's played 14 games. Amazing. HIs .229 ISO is the most amazing thing about his current run. It's all part of a small sample, I know, but all his MLB stints have been short and in comparrison to those it's more than 3 times as large.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 4, 2016 21:42:06 GMT -5
And a shout out to the Manager who brought him back up, played him and stuck with him in all situations. ![](http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/nodding_clint_eastwood.gif)
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Post by radiohix on Jul 4, 2016 23:13:28 GMT -5
Just your daily reminder that the O's have a worst pitching staff than we do. Their supposed number 2 gave them 4 IP. their BP is running on fumes.
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