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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 2, 2016 6:29:57 GMT -5
Ohh and when Abad is added to this roster, I hope Brentz is the one who goes packing. With Holt, the Sox can carry a three man bench. I'd rather see Benintendi platoon with Holt since Holt has traditionally been a reverse split guy anyways in his career. No more Brentz. He's not versatile, he can't make contact, and he's a poor defender. No value with him on the roster imo. It should be Abad for Layne, Benintendi for Brentz, and Castillo for Martinez. On that last one: If Holt becomes the super-utility guy again, there's no more excuses to have Martinez in the roster. Castillo isn't on the 40 man roster. I could live without Castillo and carry a extra pitcher. Having 3 lefties out of the bullpen can be useful.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 2, 2016 6:45:31 GMT -5
I am really liking this sox team right now. If erod can keep pitching any thing close to last night and they may have a shot at making a run. It's too bad erod wasn't looking like this when they made the Pomeranz deal, DD may have not felt forced to make the deal.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 2, 2016 6:54:34 GMT -5
It should be Abad for Layne, Benintendi for Brentz, and Castillo for Martinez. On that last one: If Holt becomes the super-utility guy again, there's no more excuses to have Martinez in the roster. Layne and Martinez are DFA'd.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 2, 2016 6:59:38 GMT -5
Great win!
Welcome to the BabyFaced Assassin. Here's hoping he adjusts quickly.
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Post by nomar on Aug 2, 2016 7:11:35 GMT -5
A LHP is starting tonight so we may not see Benintendi in the lineup until tomorrow vs Iwakuma.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 7:12:49 GMT -5
A LHP is starting tonight so we may not see Benintendi in the lineup until tomorrow vs Iwakuma. Yeah, that was what was said. Let the bitching begin.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 2, 2016 7:17:04 GMT -5
A LHP is starting tonight so we may not see Benintendi in the lineup until tomorrow vs Iwakuma. Yeah, that was what was said. Let the bitching begin. Farrell. Does anyone on his staff look at splits?
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 2, 2016 7:20:15 GMT -5
ERod throwing his slider more sure seems to help.
Winning is fun!
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Post by mgoetze on Aug 2, 2016 9:28:29 GMT -5
Yeah, that was what was said. Let the bitching begin. Farrell. Does anyone on his staff look at splits? Unfortunately, yes.
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Post by dmaineah on Aug 2, 2016 10:05:21 GMT -5
Layne and Martinez are DFA'd. Has that been announced yet? I think they should send Brentz down (and I'm a Brentz fan) and run Layne through waivers first. Maybe someone claims him, they pull him back & they can trade him for something.
DFA Martinez to add Benintendi to the 40 man & call him up Send Brentz down to add Abad to the active roster Wait & see what happens with Layne
or maybe even;
Move 1 of Young or Uehara to the 60 day if they are not expected back for awhile Add Benintendi to the 40 man & call him up Send Brentz down to add Abad to the active roster Run both Martinez & Layne through waivers Wait & see what happens with Martinez & Layne
Aren't these better options then just DFA' ing both Layne & Martinez
Young was placed on the DL on 6-24. Does anybody here think he will be back in the next 3 weeks?
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 2, 2016 10:09:39 GMT -5
Yeah, that was what was said. Let the bitching begin. Farrell. Does anyone on his staff look at splits? It's one of our top prospects. You really think this his is decision alone? DD most likely had a ton of input on how he will be used
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Post by jmei on Aug 2, 2016 10:17:24 GMT -5
I think it's less that they don't think Benintendi can hit LHP and more that they want to ease him in. At least to start, it makes sense to give him regular days off so he has a chance to catch his breath and get acclimated to a major league clubhouse. It also gives them an excuse to get him out of the lineup if he has an adjustment period like the one he had when first promoted to AA.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 10:20:01 GMT -5
And put him in the best position to succeed for his debut. It's a pretty easy choice.
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Post by Coreno on Aug 2, 2016 10:39:23 GMT -5
Yeah, don't forget this is the kid's first full pro season. It probably wouldn't be a great idea to just ride him every day for the next two (three) months. Hopefully this won't be a very strict platoon, but you never know with JF filling out the lineup cards. Also, not sure why so many people are acting like Brentz is a waste of a roster spot, he's not a great defender but he's been adequate with the bat.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 2, 2016 11:27:31 GMT -5
And put him in the best position to succeed for his debut. It's a pretty easy choice. When Francona got a guy up from the minors he would start him same day. His articulated thought process 1) We didn't call this guy up to sit. 2) The field is the one place where this kid should feel most comfortable. When Farrell gets a call-up, unless it's an emergency or "an established veteran" he's almost always sat the kid. Different philosophies I guess, but sometimes it's better to jump in rather than stick your toe in the water.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 2, 2016 11:31:22 GMT -5
Ohh and when Abad is added to this roster, I hope Brentz is the one who goes packing. With Holt, the Sox can carry a three man bench. I'd rather see Benintendi platoon with Holt since Holt has traditionally been a reverse split guy anyways in his career. No more Brentz. He's not versatile, he can't make contact, and he's a poor defender. No value with him on the roster imo. It should be Abad for Layne, Benintendi for Brentz, and Castillo for Martinez. On that last one: If Holt becomes the super-utility guy again, there's no more excuses to have Martinez in the roster. Looks like they dropped Martinez to keep Brentz's RH power (potential). I think I'd rather they have Castillo's glove.
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Post by rafael on Aug 2, 2016 11:37:44 GMT -5
Benintendi should be unavailable tonight if the reason for him to be platooning is to ease him in (if it's not a blowout, obviously). It would be contradictory to bring him in for an important at-bat against a RHP in late innings or as a defensive replacement in left.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 2, 2016 11:38:25 GMT -5
I think it's less that they don't think Benintendi can hit LHP and more that they want to ease him in. At least to start, it makes sense to give him regular days off so he has a chance to catch his breath and get acclimated to a major league clubhouse. It also gives them an excuse to get him out of the lineup if he has an adjustment period like the one he had when first promoted to AA. By the same token though, do you not want to develop him into an everyday player? He is going to need to face lefty pitchers to do that.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 2, 2016 12:26:12 GMT -5
When Francona got a guy up from the minors he would start him same day. His articulated thought process 1) We didn't call this guy up to sit. 2) The field is the one place where this kid should feel most comfortable. When Farrell gets a call-up, unless it's an emergency or "an established veteran" he's almost always sat the kid. Different philosophies I guess, but sometimes it's better to jump in rather than stick your toe in the water. Specifically about AB, why put the dude in a situation where he's more likely to fail than let him debut against a better pitching matchup? Besides, I don't think Farrell relies on veterans all that much more than Francona did, they're both good in that sense.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Aug 2, 2016 12:52:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't play him unless it's a blowout. Let him shag, get to know the guys, environment, LONG flight, new uniform, lefty on the mound, 3rd deck (big difference from Hatfield to Safeco). Give the kid a day. Even in Portland they give a day off here & there.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 2, 2016 12:58:57 GMT -5
Exactly, this forever macho sink of swim baptism by fire shenanigan can't be good for the rookie.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 13:56:54 GMT -5
And put him in the best position to succeed for his debut. It's a pretty easy choice. When Francona got a guy up from the minors he would start him same day. His articulated thought process 1) We didn't call this guy up to sit. 2) The field is the one place where this kid should feel most comfortable. When Farrell gets a call-up, unless it's an emergency or "an established veteran" he's almost always sat the kid. Different philosophies I guess, but sometimes it's better to jump in rather than stick your toe in the water. And every time someone got called up he had to fly to the opposite coast in the middle of a series? This isn't really worth complaining about IMO. It's not like Brentz is an established veteran who is going to take much playing time from him.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 2, 2016 14:04:08 GMT -5
When Francona got a guy up from the minors he would start him same day. His articulated thought process 1) We didn't call this guy up to sit. 2) The field is the one place where this kid should feel most comfortable. When Farrell gets a call-up, unless it's an emergency or "an established veteran" he's almost always sat the kid. Different philosophies I guess, but sometimes it's better to jump in rather than stick your toe in the water. And every time someone got called up he had to fly to the opposite coast in the middle of a series? This isn't really worth complaining about IMO. It's not like Brentz is an established veteran who is going to take much playing time from him. I don't trust John Farrell, and I'm actually still more worried about him running Holt out there over Benintendi than Brentz.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 2, 2016 14:06:43 GMT -5
And every time someone got called up he had to fly to the opposite coast in the middle of a series? This isn't really worth complaining about IMO. It's not like Brentz is an established veteran who is going to take much playing time from him. I don't trust John Farrell, and I'm actually still more worried about him running Holt out there over Benintendi than Brentz. I'll wait until it's an issue. I'm sure Young will take some of his playing time, but against lefties, it's a no-brainer. Holt will have plenty of chances to play. So many guys could use days off.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 2, 2016 14:56:33 GMT -5
Why DFA Layne? Why not just demote Brentz?
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