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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 13, 2017 16:34:36 GMT -5
I feel the exact same way. He got lucky on Bucks this year. It would have taken him a lot longer to earn minutes in Boston. We just have a very deep team. Rozier could have blown up this year if he got a chance at 30 mins a night.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 13, 2017 17:16:35 GMT -5
I mean this offseason. I just don't think he would've ever gotten the minutes in Boston that he did in Milwaukee. So he would've been on the bench and/or in the D-League. He obviously wouldn't have gotten time over Thomas, Bradley and Smart. Brown? Probably not. And he probably wouldn't have gotten a chance to show what he can do so likely not Rozier (who Boston loves and wanted to give a chance to) either. Green maybe but, remember, it's hard to win a spot in the rotation in practice (from outside the rotation). He got a chance in Milwaukee. Very likely wouldn't have in Boston. So, as Boston looks to clear space this offseason, they'd likely release him (assuming that, like most 2nd rounders, he would've had a non or partial guarantee for next year) following the year (unless they gave him something like Jackson where the guaranteed portion is less than the roster charge). Ok I understand. But give me Brogdon over Rozier, Bradley(Maybe not right now) and Green and Smart and Possibly Brown!They should have known that. And they told Brogdon that they like him and they might draft him and they opted to make the trade instead. These guys needed to nail at least one of those late round draft picks they had. |
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Post by texs31 on Apr 13, 2017 18:18:09 GMT -5
Oh I LOVE Brogdon. I just think that if he was drafted by Boston we wouldn't have seen what we saw and he'd be no different than any other 2nd rounder who might get cut.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 13, 2017 18:35:53 GMT -5
I mean this offseason. I just don't think he would've ever gotten the minutes in Boston that he did in Milwaukee. So he would've been on the bench and/or in the D-League. He obviously wouldn't have gotten time over Thomas, Bradley and Smart. Brown? Probably not. And he probably wouldn't have gotten a chance to show what he can do so likely not Rozier (who Boston loves and wanted to give a chance to) either. Green maybe but, remember, it's hard to win a spot in the rotation in practice (from outside the rotation). He got a chance in Milwaukee. Very likely wouldn't have in Boston. So, as Boston looks to clear space this offseason, they'd likely release him (assuming that, like most 2nd rounders, he would've had a non or partial guarantee for next year) following the year (unless they gave him something like Jackson where the guaranteed portion is less than the roster charge). Ok I understand. But give me Brogdon over Rozier, Bradley(Maybe not right now) and Green and Smart and Possibly Brown!They should have known that. And they told Brogdon that they like him and they might draft him and they opted to make the trade instead. These guys needed to nail at least one of those late round draft picks they had. Brogdon is having a nice year for a second round pick. You can debate if they should have taken him over making the trade after you see what we get. That's about it. The fact you even mentioned Brown and Bradley is very funny. He's a 24 year old rookie having a nice year, not a stud starter. His PER for example is just below league average. Again he's 24 years old, that's very old for a rookie. How much better does he get? Also the reason we made the trade was because we had a stacked roster and wanted to move assets to future years. Do you know how many prospects they told that they liked them and might draft them? A ton, they had 8 draft picks! Then there's Danny's comment that he would have taken Jackson and Bentil at 31 and 35 if there was no trade. Nevermind if you want to use hindsight, I would have taken Ivica Zubac. He looked awesome for a 19 year old kid. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 14, 2017 5:31:08 GMT -5
Anyone been paying attention to the Red Claws and Yabusele? Impressive prospect to say the least, the future is bright for the C's that is for sure. A few years from now it is going to be fun to see who is dominating the East along with Boston.
The C's got a break with the seedings and very well should meet the Cavs in the ECF. It is going to be very interesting and fun to see what Danny does with this roster and all the other assets he has at his disposal.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 14, 2017 6:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 14, 2017 11:39:40 GMT -5
Nail their picks? How much better do
You want their one year removed outlook to be for last years draft? In redraft scenarios, Brown, Yabusele and Zizic are all top 10 selections and Nader looks to be a decent prospect as a bench player too....
Complaining they should have done better in the draft is silliness.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 15, 2017 8:17:36 GMT -5
telluricrook, I got a notification of a response by you but it's not here.... did a moderator delete it?
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 15, 2017 11:47:54 GMT -5
telluricrook, I got a notification of a response by you but it's not here.... did a moderator delete it? Yes. I said something like Yabusele and Zizic are still prospects and Chad Ford and Pelton get off on still being able to projecting players like that. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 15, 2017 13:03:30 GMT -5
telluricrook, I got a notification of a response by you but it's not here.... did a moderator delete it? Yes. I said something like Yabusele and Zizic are still prospects and Chad Ford and Pelton get off on still being able to projecting players like that. Gotcha but the fact they are prospects whose stock has grown is key. Danny drafted them for that exact purpose. He didn't want them on the roster. The guy you can say you wish you had Brogdon over is Jackson but even then, they may have dealt those picks because they looked at the board and saw them both still there |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 15, 2017 13:05:36 GMT -5
If we want to talk about screwing up in the draft, Cleveland two years ago had Tyus Jones and dumped him. Now PG depth is an issue. I thought that was a mistake at the time and it looks worse now. He's going to be a player. He's probably going to have a better career than both Okafor and Winslow.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 15, 2017 13:31:37 GMT -5
Zubac might be the Lakers best young player. Just watch out for him. He had some massive games for a 19 year old rookie. Had a PER of 17 and was just downright impressive for a second round pick. The fact we are debating second round picks after one year just shows you how good that draft was. If we were rebuilding we could have had Brown, Yabu, Zizic, Brogdon, Zubac and Jackson. By next year those players could be better than the whole Nets team!
I like Jones, it was a stupid trade by Cleveland. They are killing the teams future by not developing young players. The problem is James!! He demands veterans that can help now. They need a GM that can get through to him and explain the value of developing young players for the future.
Jones has a long way to go to get to Okafor and Winslow level. It could happen but I would still take those two players over him. Okafor needs a new team that can get the most out of him. Winslow still looks to have a bright future also.
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Post by telluricrook on Apr 15, 2017 14:07:10 GMT -5
Zubac might be the Lakers best young player. Just watch out for him. He had some massive games for a 19 year old rookie. Had a PER of 17 and was just downright impressive for a second round pick. The fact we are debating second round picks after one year just shows you how good that draft was. If we were rebuilding we could have had Brown, Yabu, Zizic, Brogdon, Zubac and Jackson. By next year those players could be better than the whole Nets team! I like Jones, it was a stupid trade by Cleveland. They are killing the teams future by not developing young players. The problem is James!! He demands veterans that can help now. They need a GM that can get through to him and explain the value of developing young players for the future. Jones has a long way to go to get to Okafor and Winslow level. It could happen but I would still take those two players over him. Okafor needs a new team that can get the most out of him. Winslow still looks to have a bright future also. That all makes sense because LeBron is like their GM so he doesnt care about their future. |
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 15, 2017 15:28:14 GMT -5
The problem with Cleveland is that they are a horribly run organization. They had #1 picks three outta four years (none of which were Tristian Thompson), lucked out in LeBron coming back, and still will likely only end up with the one title.
Garbage garbage organization that will be terrible for a long time after LeBron retires.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 9:27:40 GMT -5
Isaiah's sister died yesterday morning in a car accident. It looks as if he is going to be playing today but it's a sad time for him and his family. Will be interesting to see how he plays with this over his head.
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Post by texs31 on Apr 16, 2017 10:56:31 GMT -5
Zubac might be the Lakers best young player. Just watch out for him. He had some massive games for a 19 year old rookie. Had a PER of 17 and was just downright impressive for a second round pick. The fact we are debating second round picks after one year just shows you how good that draft was. If we were rebuilding we could have had Brown, Yabu, Zizic, Brogdon, Zubac and Jackson. By next year those players could be better than the whole Nets team! I like Jones, it was a stupid trade by Cleveland. They are killing the teams future by not developing young players. The problem is James!! He demands veterans that can help now. They need a GM that can get through to him and explain the value of developing young players for the future. Jones has a long way to go to get to Okafor and Winslow level. It could happen but I would still take those two players over him. Okafor needs a new team that can get the most out of him. Winslow still looks to have a bright future also. Meanwhile, Miami drafted Shabazz Napier, solely based on James wanting him. But then James left. Napier is gone too (and, seemingly, not very good). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 15:56:00 GMT -5
Any predictions for the game tonight?
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 16, 2017 18:17:07 GMT -5
I guess Stevens is gonna wait till they're down double figures to call a timeout.
Edit: Brad just getting exposed with these horrendous lineups.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 19:06:44 GMT -5
This is gross - can't rebound and ugly turnovers
The starters better play 90% of this half.
Bright side Horford is getting more aggressive
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 16, 2017 19:23:19 GMT -5
It's inexplicable that the Celtics don't have either Thomas or Horford on the court at all times.
And Stevens is about to go way too long before he puts Isaiah back in.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 19:31:38 GMT -5
Gerald Green probably shouldn't come in cold in the third for instant offense
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 16, 2017 19:35:22 GMT -5
Gerald Green probably shouldn't come in cold in the third for instant offense Nope - especially when you're cooling Bradley down in the process. Regular season mindset by the staff. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 19:35:59 GMT -5
Have they gone 11 deep today? Everyone but Young...
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2017 19:46:05 GMT -5
You know the officiating is terrible when Tommy is even calling out the calls that go the Celtics way.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 16, 2017 19:50:57 GMT -5
Smart lets a wide open rebound bounce off his hand, and then bricks a 3 on the other end.
Probably the ballgame right there. His minutes need to go down until he can actually shoot.
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