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Post by texs31 on Jun 20, 2017 17:50:13 GMT -5
Magic is probably thinking that if he ends up with George and James in a couple of years, will anyone remember this bad value trade?
Stein reporting that LAL is trying to couple Clarkson or Randle with the 2 late 1st rounders to get George.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 20, 2017 18:00:27 GMT -5
Magic is probably thinking that if he ends up with George and James in a couple of years, will anyone remember this bad value trade? Stein reporting that LAL is trying to couple Clarkson or Randle with the 2 late 1st rounders to get George. Texas you gotta stop with the LeBron stuff it just makes zero sense. Zero percent chance it happens. You sound like a Knicks fan, they all think James is going there. This screams more like Lopez and George are there two stars going forward and go along with there young guys. I don't buy this is just a salary dump. Russell is young, good, with upside. The Nets finally have a building block to start there rebuild with.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:04:20 GMT -5
The Lakers are clearing cap space. At the cost of Russell? That seems stupid! That's pretty much what I expected they would use Russel for.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 20, 2017 18:05:54 GMT -5
I'm only saying what people who are way more connected than I am are saying.
I don't really see it but that's what the Ford, Steins, Wojs are all talking about (not that it's going to happen but that it's the plan).
So if I sound like a Knicks fan then so do they.
BTW I'm not endorsing the trade or being critical of your post about it. Just opining that GMS may ignore good value if they end up where they want to be.
EDIT : forgot Mannix. He's saying it too.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:06:00 GMT -5
Helps the Brooklyn pick next year but not the Lakers pick... clears cap space for the Lakers next year
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:09:38 GMT -5
Lopez isn't a long term piece or shouldn't be. It's basically a salary dump. I don't agree Russel is a legit building block but he's a good gamble for the Nets. He's an immature punk.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 20, 2017 18:12:36 GMT -5
At the cost of Russell? That seems stupid! That's pretty much what I expected they would use Russel for. So they shouldn't trade him for George, while dumping a bad contract, but it makes sense just to clear space? Ok got it, makes zero sense.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:13:38 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I expected they would use Russel for. So they shouldn't trade him for George, while dumping a bad contract, but it makes sense just to clear space? Ok got it, makes zero sense. Never said they shouldn't trade him for George if they could dump Mozgov's contract. Not once.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 20, 2017 18:16:48 GMT -5
I'm only saying what people who are way more connected than I am are saying. I don't really see it but that's what the Ford, Steins, Wojs are all talking about (not that it's going to happen but that it's the plan). So if I sound like a Knicks fan then so do they. BTW I'm not endorsing the trade or being critical of your post about it. Just opining that GMS may ignore good value if they end up where they want to be. EDIT : forgot Mannix. He's saying it too. If that's the Lakers plan, its like watching a good comedy. Celtics go after in his prime Durant, Lakers go after an old LeBron that they have no shot at getting.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 20, 2017 18:19:21 GMT -5
Oh I'm with you. Also don't see how Ingram (who seems to be untouchable) George and James all fit but, again, that's what everyone seems to be talking about.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:22:03 GMT -5
If the Lakers want to compete and sign free agents they had to trade Mozgovs contract and it made sense to deal Russel now because if he has another disappointing year he is not going to allow you to do that. So they got rid of an immature disappointing young player with upside when they plan on drafting a PG anyways and dumped one of the worst contracts in the league and got another first round pick. Great deal by Magic.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 20, 2017 18:22:08 GMT -5
The Lakers are going to have to trade talent to dump contracts to sign someone to put with George. If they give up anything more than Clarkson and the 28 they are foolish and even that should be questioned. Really Rip? You said this. Only way they get George and match salaries is to include one of there horrible contracts. Not like there's a huge difference between Deng and Timothy. So yea you did say that.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:24:33 GMT -5
The Lakers are going to have to trade talent to dump contracts to sign someone to put with George. If they give up anything more than Clarkson and the 28 they are foolish and even that should be questioned. Really Rip? You said this. Only way they get George and match salaries is to include one of there horrible contracts. Not like there's a huge difference between Deng and Timothy. So yea you did say that. I said they were going to have to trade talent to dump bad contracts which is what just happened. You're adding stuff I am not.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:28:29 GMT -5
Also you brought up Deng after I made the post you are quoting.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:31:41 GMT -5
Moving forward, I'm not sure I see a good deal to be made between the Lakers and Pacers. Why on gods green earth would the Pacers take on Dengs contract? I could see them accepting Clarkson and Randle's contracts but is that really a good deal for the Pacers? They really need to think about tearing it down...
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:34:52 GMT -5
The Lakers are going to have to trade talent to dump contracts to sign someone to put with George. If they give up anything more than Clarkson and the 28 they are foolish and even that should be questioned. Really Rip? You said this. Only way they get George and match salaries is to include one of there horrible contracts. Not like there's a huge difference between Deng and Timothy. So yea you did say that. And why would the Pacers accept one of those albatross contracts?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 20, 2017 18:35:40 GMT -5
Really? Wow. Talk about not owning what you say. How exactly does Clarkson and #28 pick get you George? The salaries don't match. Please explain.
Also your opinions about Russell is downright funny. Brown is a future star, but Russell is garbage. Come on, while he is a punk, he is a very talented punk that just had a very nice age 21 season. He's more likely to breakout than to flame out at this point.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 18:57:03 GMT -5
Really? Wow. Talk about not owning what you say. How exactly does Clarkson and #28 pick get you George? The salaries don't match. Please explain. Also your opinions about Russell is downright funny. Brown is a future star, but Russell is garbage. Come on, while he is a punk, he is a very talented punk that just had a very nice age 21 season. He's more likely to breakout than to flame out at this point. Are you trying to tell me I didn't say they were going to have to trade talent to dump contracts? I never said Clarkson and 28 would match salaries that was to simply illustrate a talent amount I would trade. I didn't get into salary matching. It makes no sense for the Pacers to take an albatross of a contract back for George. Those contracts are beyond bad - this we agree on - they are not salary matching deals - this we don't seem to agree on.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 19:05:20 GMT -5
Russell is a talented player but he is a dog at this point. Do I under rate him because of this? Probably... but I'm not the type of person who wants to have immature guys with questionable work ethics and attitudes on my team. Especially a young team. Could he turn it around and mature? Of course he could. I never called him garbage either. I just said his value could be depressed next season. I did call his season disappointing. I feel like it was but you don't that's fine.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 19:07:52 GMT -5
Back to the Celtics... this kind of makes Danny's trade protections look Genius doesn't it? Lakers chances of first pick went down and their chances of a later lottery pick went up so good job Danny.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 20, 2017 20:14:12 GMT -5
The Lakers are clearing cap space. At the cost of Russell? That seems stupid! Not if they're sure they can get George and LeBron very very soon.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 20, 2017 20:20:54 GMT -5
Dwight Howard to the Hornets. Seems like a headlining trade for Charlotte. No one seems to want Dwight Howard at this point. Such a shame that a guy with this much talent is such a waste.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 20, 2017 20:20:54 GMT -5
Dwight Howard to Charlotte for Plumlee and Belinelli. 2nd rounders going in both directions as well.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 20, 2017 20:26:03 GMT -5
Didn't Howard have a pretty good year last year?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 20, 2017 20:59:47 GMT -5
Wow. The Lakers tried to trade the Ball pick to Sacramento for picks 5 and 10 but got turned down by Sacramento. Tells you how teams view Ball at this point.
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