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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 9, 2017 14:36:54 GMT -5
A second unit of Smart - Rozier - Tatum - Theis - Baynes worries me all around.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 9, 2017 16:30:17 GMT -5
I love that second unit, they should crush other teams. It puts a ton of pressure on Tatum to score, but I'm not worried about that. Nevermind you likely will have one of Irving, Hayward or Horford on the floor most of the time.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 9, 2017 17:56:23 GMT -5
Holy crap Sixers signed Embiid to a max extension... how dumb are they
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 9, 2017 19:27:53 GMT -5
Nader is going to be a nice bench player in a couple years.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 9, 2017 21:43:29 GMT -5
The Sixer had to gamble and sign him, but a 5 year super max deal is crazy. 5 years 148 to 178 million.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 9, 2017 21:45:13 GMT -5
Theis is looking like the rebounder we needed. He has been impressive for 3 straight games and Yabu has also been good. I feel better now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 10, 2017 1:10:24 GMT -5
A second unit of Smart - Rozier - Tatum - Theis - Baynes worries me all around. I don't see that as the second unit though. I see Baynes starting a lot and Morris coming off the bench. Maybe Morris starts more though and I'm wrong about that however. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 10, 2017 1:12:31 GMT -5
Theis is looking like the rebounder we needed. He has been impressive for 3 straight games and Yabu has also been good. I feel better now. Yabu looks awesome and Theis looks like a better rebounding version on Kelly Olynik. I can see Yabu turning into the PF of the future for this franchise. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 10, 2017 7:09:01 GMT -5
The Sixer had to gamble and sign him, but a 5 year super max deal is crazy. 5 years 148 to 178 million. Read somewhere that it's the most complicated contract in NBA history (likely hyperbole) with several layers of salary cap protection for Philly. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 10, 2017 7:42:21 GMT -5
Not sure if you can put much value on dominating the 76ers in a preseason game but the C's were impressive with out playing there three stars and another likely/close to starter in Morris. Smart and Rozier looked very good on both ends of the floor and Ojelye looks like he will earn some minutes this year. As I said before he is my darkhorse to be a contributor. Overall the C's completely out played the sixers without the 4 I mentioned.
Given the talk about the Embiid extension it makes me wonder what the C's will do with Smart. He will get a big contract and the C's might not be able to afford him. I am confident the C's will not hesitate to go over the cap but by how much? Danny is still in a position where there is pressure to make a trade to maximize assets.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 10, 2017 7:45:09 GMT -5
Theis is looking like the rebounder we needed. He has been impressive for 3 straight games and Yabu has also been good. I feel better now. Yabu looks awesome and Theis looks like a better rebounding version on Kelly Olynik. I can see Yabu turning into the PF of the future for this franchise. Theis is not like KO. I mean they are both tall and White and play basketball so I guess they are a little alike. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 10, 2017 7:49:46 GMT -5
Yabusele is a better defender down low than I expected but his shot isn't as smooth as I expected. I don't think he's going to play much this year.
I like Semi tho... he could play some this year
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Post by jmei on Oct 10, 2017 8:57:35 GMT -5
Rozier's quickness and athleticism manifests itself in so many ways-- he beats guys off the dribble or off pump-fakes so effortlessly, he's a real asset as a rebounder and has all the tools you'd want defensively. Plus, he's improved his shot enough that it looks like an asset rather than a liability. I'm still not sure he has or can develop the ballhandling and court vision to ever be more than a rotation player. Still, that's a pretty good player and a good fit for Stevens' motion offense, especially if he's surrounded by guys like Hayward and Smart who can take over primary ballhandling responsibilities.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 10, 2017 9:01:01 GMT -5
Yabu looks awesome and Theis looks like a better rebounding version on Kelly Olynik. I can see Yabu turning into the PF of the future for this franchise. Theis is not like KO. I mean they are both tall and White and play basketball so I guess they are a little alike. I think Scal dropped a Chris "Birdman" Andersen comp. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 10, 2017 11:32:19 GMT -5
Rozier's quickness and athleticism manifests itself in so many ways-- he beats guys off the dribble or off pump-fakes so effortlessly, he's a real asset as a rebounder and has all the tools you'd want defensively. Plus, he's improved his shot enough that it looks like an asset rather than a liability. I'm still not sure he has or can develop the ballhandling and court vision to ever be more than a rotation player. Still, that's a pretty good player and a good fit for Stevens' motion offense, especially if he's surrounded by guys like Hayward and Smart who can take over primary ballhandling responsibilities. I like Terry but I'm cautiously optimistic on him. I need to see him move the ball without holding it for 5 seconds at least once before I get too excited. (Exaggerating obviously) |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 10, 2017 11:55:48 GMT -5
Rozier has all the tools to be a starter level type player. He's just more of a score first type guard. Hence why I want him to play mostly as a SG this year. Two things will determine his impact this year his shot and ability to finish at the rim. His shot looks good and has been getting better. He can get to rim with ease, but he missed so many easy layups last year it drove me nuts. He should also work on a mid-range game. I think he has a big year. He really impressed me at the end of last year and in the playoffs.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 10, 2017 14:08:28 GMT -5
Yabu looks awesome and Theis looks like a better rebounding version on Kelly Olynik. I can see Yabu turning into the PF of the future for this franchise. Theis is not like KO. I mean they are both tall and White and play basketball so I guess they are a little alike. They have similar qualities. Soft touch around the rim and can shoot from range. Yeah I think they are similar in skill sets, I don't take that back. The only difference is I think Theis can actually rebound a basketball. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 10, 2017 14:25:47 GMT -5
Entirely different types of athleticism (it may be a stretch to say KO has a type of athleticism).
I'd also add that "can hit the 3" (Theis) and being a 3-pt shooter (Olynyk) are different things.
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Post by jmei on Oct 10, 2017 14:51:26 GMT -5
They're really entirely different players.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 10, 2017 18:58:53 GMT -5
Nader is going to be a nice bench player in a couple years. Maybe but probably not with the C's. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 10, 2017 18:59:12 GMT -5
Rozier has all the tools to be a starter level type player. He's just more of a score first type guard. Hence why I want him to play mostly as a SG this year. Two things will determine his impact this year his shot and ability to finish at the rim. His shot looks good and has been getting better. He can get to rim with ease, but he missed so many easy layups last year it drove me nuts. He should also work on a mid-range game. I think he has a big year. He really impressed me at the end of last year and in the playoffs. It feels like all the stuff you knock Smart over you ignore with Rozier. Or maybe you are just arguing against over hyped expectations with one and the opposite with the other. I like the guy as well but I have trouble buying his shot has improved. His shooting was worse the last couple months than it was the first during last season. This team needs him and it will not surprise me if he has a big year but it won't surprise me if he's still a wild offensive player who Boggs things down more than anything else. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 10, 2017 23:49:21 GMT -5
Rozier has all the tools to be a starter level type player. He's just more of a score first type guard. Hence why I want him to play mostly as a SG this year. Two things will determine his impact this year his shot and ability to finish at the rim. His shot looks good and has been getting better. He can get to rim with ease, but he missed so many easy layups last year it drove me nuts. He should also work on a mid-range game. I think he has a big year. He really impressed me at the end of last year and in the playoffs. It feels like all the stuff you knock Smart over you ignore with Rozier. Or maybe you are just arguing against over hyped expectations with one and the opposite with the other. I like the guy as well but I have trouble buying his shot has improved. His shooting was worse the last couple months than it was the first during last season. This team needs him and it will not surprise me if he has a big year but it won't surprise me if he's still a wild offensive player who Boggs things down more than anything else. Not sure they are a good comps. Not in my book. One has 3 years heavy playing time, the other has only one year of decent minutes. One got heavy playing time day one on a rebuilding team, the other came into a deep playoff team. One just shoots 3s, the other can get to the basket. One is a great athlete, the other a so-so one. Rozier makes plays like Brown that make you dream on his upside. I feel his playing time was spotty last year. More of a just hasn't got his chance yet. Rozier in playoffs got his FG% just above 40% and about 37% from deep. He opened my eyes in the playoffs. Huge improvement over the year before. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 11, 2017 10:38:49 GMT -5
A few of you have mentioned Yabu looking good out there so far, I just don't see it. Yes he has made some nice plays but he has also looked a bit lost at times like he doesn't know where he is supposed to be. Also doesn't seem to be in great shape yet.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 11, 2017 10:52:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Yabu looks good, he's another Sullinger with his weight. He has been productive rebounding the ball though in the preseason. Which is something we really need from our back-up bigs. On this team, unless there is an injury Yabu isn't going to play much.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 11, 2017 14:17:30 GMT -5
Marcus Smart shot 40% from 3 in the playoffs last year. And no I don't think that's an indicator of anything.
I wasn't comparing them as players I was comparing your analysis of them. One you use all eye test and ignore the stats the other you use all stats and ignore the other stuff. I just find it interesting is all.
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