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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 26, 2017 11:31:35 GMT -5
Looks like Ealy may get cut if they can't trade him based off recent reports.. ESPN has quotes from BB about Elay coming along. It didn't sound anything like he was on the cutting block or they wanted to trade him. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 26, 2017 11:39:59 GMT -5
Edleman is a big loss, but I don't see it costing us seeding. It's the deepest position on team and we have really good players that can take his spot.
We were so deep that I was wondering pre-injury if they might trade a Mitchell or Hogan to add a DE.
We have now lost Nink to retirement and Rivers and Edleman to ACLs for the year. The season hasn't even started. Let's hope this doesn't continue.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 26, 2017 14:18:53 GMT -5
Ealy cut per reports.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 26, 2017 14:32:18 GMT -5
Beware the hooded man bearing compliments. I thought everyone knew that.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 26, 2017 14:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 26, 2017 16:19:59 GMT -5
Brady is the biggest component obviously, but Edleman being out might cost them seeding. Which then could cost them home field advantage and maybe even a loss in the playoffs. I think it could be a playoff crippling loss. They're winning the division either way, but that's just how I see things. No way man. Gronk and Cooks are the keys and the downgrade to Amendola and Hogan isn't huge. Even Burkhead can play slot which is a great option for play action and audibles. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 26, 2017 16:55:59 GMT -5
Isn't Harris a good coverage linebacker? I don't think he's the Roberts run stuffer you are making him out to be.... unless he just showed up completely old in which case he's not the player he was with the Jets. Entirely possible
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 26, 2017 17:43:37 GMT -5
Brady is the biggest component obviously, but Edleman being out might cost them seeding. Which then could cost them home field advantage and maybe even a loss in the playoffs. I think it could be a playoff crippling loss. They're winning the division either way, but that's just how I see things. No way man. Gronk and Cooks are the keys and the downgrade to Amendola and Hogan isn't huge. Even Burkhead can play slot which is a great option for play action and audibles. Like 3 quarters of those players are injury liabilities. Amendola is just a third down receiver now. I don't like it. This was the second best player on the team. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 26, 2017 20:35:05 GMT -5
Isn't Harris a good coverage linebacker? I don't think he's the Roberts run stuffer you are making him out to be.... unless he just showed up completely old in which case he's not the player he was with the Jets. Entirely possible Harris has always been know for his run D. thejetsblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/scouting-report-on-david-harris.htmlAs a vet is he better than Roberts? Most likely, has a lot more experience. www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-jets-release-long-term-lb-david-harris-after-10-seasonsHe rated as an average LB last year. He was a lot better in coverage than two poor LBs. Not sure if that means he good overall in coverage as a LB at his age. Still not sure he plays in the sub packages like a Hightower. We'll see. Last year they were playing Hightower, Van Noy and a 3rd safety over another LB in Sub packages. |
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Post by costpet on Aug 27, 2017 7:30:03 GMT -5
Ealy cost them $100,000 against the cap by releasing him. I wonder what the real reason was. The first day of practice, he wasn't allowed on the field. That sounds weird. BB must have been pissed for some reason. I heard Carolina was thrilled to get rid of him. Maybe he was like Jamie Collins, who didn't buy into what BB wanted. Anyway, when it finally comes out, it should be interesting.
The loss of JE will be felt more than a lot of writers are predicting. He was always the "go to" guy for Brady, whenever he was in a tight spot. Some are talking about Hogan being the slot guy, but I think he's too tall and lanky to handle going over the middle consistently. Perhaps they could train Carr to take that spot.
I just hope this isn't the season where injuries destroy their chances. No starter should even dress for next week's game.
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Post by voiceofreason on Aug 27, 2017 8:13:38 GMT -5
The loss of Edelman will definitely be felt but the stack of players to fill that hole is really deep. A healthy Gronk and Cooks along with TBs ability to make virtually any guy look great in the short game will make this offense hard to stop. If you look at the list of guys starting with the guy who just broke records in the SB, White. Then a healthy Dion Lewis along with Burkhead who I agree could play some slot and bring some size to that spot. Add Hogan and DA and there is plenty of quality depth.
Another guy who will now make the roster and could turn into a steal is Austin Carr. He could be a surprise and he has a great story. Walks on at Northwestern and ends up leading the Big Ten in receptions/yardage and tds in his only full season.
This also opens up the chance for Cooks to put up huge numbers. If he and Gronk can stay healthy the Pats will be fine.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2017 10:05:01 GMT -5
Losing Edelman for be year and possibly hurting his effectiveness for the rest of his career (already wrong side of 30 and relies on quickness) is never a good trade. However, it's possible 3 years from now we are looking at this injury as the reason Austin Carr is still with this franchise and we are wondering if we are lucky for that. Kid looks like a player and I don't think he would have made it to the practice squad.
Now watch him not make the team... ha
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2017 13:12:15 GMT -5
I can now see Lewis making the team, maybe a lock now. White, Burkhead and Lewis can all really catch the ball. So the Edleman loss while big isn't going to kill this team. Gronk would be a lot bigger loss.
I also don't think Edleman was this teams second best player. I would list a bunch of players above him. Just on offense I think Gronk and Cooks are better players.
It rare for undrafted rookie WR to be claimed unless they really blow up in the preseason. Carr could be claimed by a team like the Jets for example, but the odds are against it. If you are worried about a team claiming him just keep him on cut down day. Let teams make there moves then release him a few days later.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 27, 2017 13:46:34 GMT -5
Losing Edelman for be year and possibly hurting his effectiveness for the rest of his career (already wrong side of 30 and relies on quickness) is never a good trade. However, it's possible 3 years from now we are looking at this injury as the reason Austin Carr is still with this franchise and we are wondering if we are lucky for that. Kid looks like a player and I don't think he would have made it to the practice squad. Now watch him not make the team... ha Mike Reiss is saying he still doesn't think Carr makes the team... But it seems like he is a natural fit for the roster with Edelman's absence, no? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 28, 2017 8:27:47 GMT -5
Losing Edelman for be year and possibly hurting his effectiveness for the rest of his career (already wrong side of 30 and relies on quickness) is never a good trade. However, it's possible 3 years from now we are looking at this injury as the reason Austin Carr is still with this franchise and we are wondering if we are lucky for that. Kid looks like a player and I don't think he would have made it to the practice squad. Now watch him not make the team... ha Mike Reiss is saying he still doesn't think Carr makes the team... But it seems like he is a natural fit for the roster with Edelman's absence, no? Yes, I would agree with this and I also think carrying 4 wideouts is a mistake considering two of them are Mitchell and Amendola, especially when Gronk is your tight end. Carr won't be a difference maker this year, but what rookie WR really is? However, he looks like he can help and Mitchell showed last year what a rook can do in the playoffs but more importantly longterm he looks like a guy who can play and with Amendola and Edelman getting old and injured that's important. Who knows if they can afford to keep Cooks and/or Mitchell down the road... |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 28, 2017 8:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by texs31 on Aug 29, 2017 8:31:07 GMT -5
Patriots have reportedly traded a late pick (6th or 7th, maybe conditional) for Cincy LB Marquis Flowers (mostly a special teamer in his brief career).
BB did not confirm in his presser.
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Post by costpet on Aug 29, 2017 13:55:57 GMT -5
I doubt he makes the 53, but he's probably a perfect practice squad player in case one of the special teams guys goes down. They got him for a 7th round pick. Just BB covering all bases.
I read that he has watched every single one of the preseason games of all teams. Guess he saw something in Flowers. Saturday, with the release of about 1200 players, should be wild.
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Post by ryan24 on Aug 29, 2017 14:03:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they changed to way the cut downs work? From what 3 to 1 ?
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 29, 2017 19:17:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they changed to way the cut downs work? From what 3 to 1 ? Probably because NFL GMs' heads were going to explode having to do it in massive stages with 3 days in between the 2 biggest cuts. |
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Post by ryan24 on Aug 30, 2017 5:10:12 GMT -5
1200 players is ALOT of people to look at in a short period of time. I guess we should expect several surprises. If BB has looked at all the pre season games he must have compiled a list of DE's that he would be interested in. Even if the scouting dept's have compiled a list of reports, it is still a big task. The bottom 5 guys on a roster will on edge until the first game. Practice squads will probably look like a Chinese fire drill.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 1, 2017 9:12:38 GMT -5
I am surprised that we haven't yet made a move for a DE. Only bringing in a bunch of no names so far. Moving on from Elay so quickly I thought that was to get another guy and give him sometime to learn the system. Everyday I expect to see a trade and it just hasn't happend yet. None of the no names have made big plays in games either. There hasn't been any Rufus Johnsons performances.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 1, 2017 9:33:41 GMT -5
I am surprised that we haven't yet made a move for a DE. Only bringing in a bunch of no names so far. Moving on from Elay so quickly I thought that was to get another guy and give him sometime to learn the system. Everyday I expect to see a trade and it just hasn't happend yet. None of the no names have made big plays in games either. There hasn't been any Rufus Johnsons performances. There will be about 1000 players cut by tomorrow. I'm sure they have their eyes on a few. |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2017 10:00:56 GMT -5
Related to that, it could be that the price was high but, faced with cutting vs getting a late pick, teams may offer more of a "discount".
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Post by texs31 on Sept 1, 2017 10:01:55 GMT -5
Anyone have "who is going to replace Cyrus Jones" as one of their big concerns heading into the regular season?
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