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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 10, 2017 10:17:36 GMT -5
So apparently Bennett has a torn rotator cuff and labrum. He was waived with a designation that he failed to disclose a physical condition.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 10, 2017 12:17:14 GMT -5
Jesus, how the heck is Bennett even going to raise his arm to make a catch?!!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 10, 2017 12:47:21 GMT -5
What a weird situation going down with Bennett. Now the Patriots are reporting that he passed his physical.
How easy is it to pass a physical these days?
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 10, 2017 13:09:07 GMT -5
Considering the teams set the parameters as easy as they want
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 10, 2017 13:13:09 GMT -5
I've lived with a torn labrum for about 25 years. It doesn't ever bother me except if I try to throw.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Nov 11, 2017 22:51:48 GMT -5
I tore my rotator cuff a few months ago. I was pretty miserable for about a week and it got better pretty quickly. And that's while being on my millennial "just don't ever get sick" healthcare plan.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 12, 2017 20:52:48 GMT -5
My boy Dion Lewis still making a ton of noise.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Nov 13, 2017 9:59:31 GMT -5
That Pittsburgh game is looking like it could decide homefield. This is the third year in a row the Pats have had to win a tough road game to earn homefield.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 13, 2017 11:37:02 GMT -5
So nice to watch a "no drama" Pats victory when they feel to be in complete control the whole way. Building momentum in the second half - that would be a perfect way to do it.
Brady looked great - nice to see Lewis run so well. Where was Butler's head all game, though?
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 19, 2017 17:42:09 GMT -5
Wow, 62 yard field goal for Gostkowski and it would have probably been good from 70. Those field goals in high altitude should have asterisks.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 19, 2017 17:47:49 GMT -5
Well, the Raiders are terrible. That is what we learned today.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 19, 2017 20:09:00 GMT -5
It's hard to gauge the defense with these bad teams, but they've given up 17 or less for 6 straight games. The schedule is beyond pathetic. It would be a travesty if they finish worse than 13-3 with the only hard game against the Steelers.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 19, 2017 20:27:30 GMT -5
Are the Raiders terrible? Are all these teams that bad? Or is this just the state of the NFL this year? Given the parameters of the last CBA and current rules governing how teams can practice I think the lackluster play has become the norm. Who is actually good these days? The league wanted parity and it seems they have it but the quality of play is definitely down.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2017 8:44:01 GMT -5
It's hard to gauge the defense with these bad teams, but they've given up 17 or less for 6 straight games. The schedule is beyond pathetic. It would be a travesty if they finish worse than 13-3 with the only hard game against the Steelers. Division games are always (usually) tougher so i wouldn’t write those all in as wins but i feel your point. As for the schedule, we say this every year... i think it’s time we realize that while teams don’t play the same schedules every has similarly “pathetic” schedules and the Patriots make teams look bad year after year because they are good. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2017 8:45:45 GMT -5
Are the Raiders terrible? Are all these teams that bad? Or is this just the state of the NFL this year? Given the parameters of the last CBA and current rules governing how teams can practice I think the lackluster play has become the norm. Who is actually good these days? The league wanted parity and it seems they have it but the quality of play is definitely down. The Patriots have a huge advantage because of their coaching staff but also their continuity from one year to the next. Same coaches - same QB - same philosophy. There is a reason why almost every coaching staff hire and replacement is from within and why the guys start at the bottom and get promoted on their way up. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2017 14:43:19 GMT -5
There are only 3-4 teams most years with a chance at winning it all. Our division sucks a little more than normal, thats about it.
Sure our coaches are and help a ton, but we year after year have the most talent. Other teams just can't do that. Look at Denver and where they are now. Look at the Bills,they hate Taylor and I don't get why. He's not a great QB, but you can win with him and he fits that team. Good D and all about running game. Thing is they just don't keep the same WRs. Every year the just keep changing them out and they wonder why Taylor doesn't get better. Look at Hogan with us, Woods and Watkins have helped Goff look like a great QB. Bill is playing Chess and the rest of the league is playing Checkers.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 20, 2017 17:05:15 GMT -5
It's hard to gauge the defense with these bad teams, but they've given up 17 or less for 6 straight games. The schedule is beyond pathetic. It would be a travesty if they finish worse than 13-3 with the only hard game against the Steelers. Division games are always (usually) tougher so i wouldn’t write those all in as wins but i feel your point. As for the schedule, we say this every year... i think it’s time we realize that while teams don’t play the same schedules every has similarly “pathetic” schedules and the Patriots make teams look bad year after year because they are good. There are only 2 good teams in the AFC, 3 if you count the Jaguars especially after watching the Chiefs lose to the Giants. Normally, there are 4-5 teams that could be scary if they got on a roll, but this year the AFC is overrun with mediocrity. The NFC has 5-6 teams at least as good as the Jaguars, if not more. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 20, 2017 17:27:02 GMT -5
Division games are always (usually) tougher so i wouldn’t write those all in as wins but i feel your point. As for the schedule, we say this every year... i think it’s time we realize that while teams don’t play the same schedules every has similarly “pathetic” schedules and the Patriots make teams look bad year after year because they are good. There are only 2 good teams in the AFC, 3 if you count the Jaguars especially after watching the Chiefs lose to the Giants. Normally, there are 4-5 teams that could be scary if they got on a roll, but this year the AFC is overrun with mediocrity. The NFC has 5-6 teams at least as good as the Jaguars, if not more. If you have this coaching staff 2 years with any number of teams they’d be really good teams. The entire AFC West has talent with KC, Oakland, Denver and San Diego then Jacksonville, Tennessee, Pittsburgh. Houston before injuries. Heck even Miami has a talented roster. |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Nov 20, 2017 19:17:35 GMT -5
Is anyone worried about the Pitt game or can we expect Brady to toy with them like he always does?
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 20, 2017 20:29:39 GMT -5
There are only 3-4 teams most years with a chance at winning it all. Our division sucks a little more than normal, thats about it. Sure our coaches are and help a ton, but we year after year have the most talent. Other teams just can't do that. Look at Denver and where they are now. Look at the Bills,they hate Taylor and I don't get why. He's not a great QB, but you can win with him and he fits that team. Good D and all about running game. Thing is they just don't keep the same WRs. Every year the just keep changing them out and they wonder why Taylor doesn't get better. Look at Hogan with us, Woods and Watkins have helped Goff look like a great QB. Bill is playing Chess and the rest of the league is playing Checkers. Bill is playing chess and the rest are playing checkers but the Pats do not have the most talent year after year. They win with undrafted FA's, guys from Rutgers and other teams cast offs while most players who leave the Pats don't find the same level of production elsewhere. It is all about coaching players up and BB is the master. The reason why the Pats have been great for all this time is the coaching and the culture, it's called the Patriot Way. They work harder, they are more focused and they love football. As BB says all the time "football is important to him", which is how he describes players. When the goat is the hardest worker on the team and everyone follows suit it is a culture that leads to success. As for the rest of the league, they get outcoached, outworked and out smarted by the Pats. How many games do the Pats give away with stupid play? We were all shocked by the defensive mistakes to start the year. Blown coverages and a leaky front seven. How long did that last? Other teams don't fix those things but the Pats did even with out Hightower. That bad play happens around the league every week. I remember one high profile DB a few years back that didn't make much of an effort on a tackle during the preseason, maybe 5,6 years ago. Like he didn't really want to get his nose in there. I saw it pretty clearly but the announcers said nothing. That guy was cut the following week and he had been in the league starting for another team. Who was the high profile WR from Indy that quit because the Pats practices were too hard? It's the Patriot Way!! or the highway |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 20, 2017 21:32:54 GMT -5
There are only 3-4 teams most years with a chance at winning it all. Our division sucks a little more than normal, thats about it. Sure our coaches are and help a ton, but we year after year have the most talent. Other teams just can't do that. Look at Denver and where they are now. Look at the Bills,they hate Taylor and I don't get why. He's not a great QB, but you can win with him and he fits that team. Good D and all about running game. Thing is they just don't keep the same WRs. Every year the just keep changing them out and they wonder why Taylor doesn't get better. Look at Hogan with us, Woods and Watkins have helped Goff look like a great QB. Bill is playing Chess and the rest of the league is playing Checkers. Bill is playing chess and the rest are playing checkers but the Pats do not have the most talent year after year. They win with undrafted FA's, guys from Rutgers and other teams cast offs while most players who leave the Pats don't find the same level of production elsewhere. It is all about coaching players up and BB is the master. The reason why the Pats have been great for all this time is the coaching and the culture, it's called the Patriot Way. They work harder, they are more focused and they love football. As BB says all the time "football is important to him", which is how he describes players. When the goat is the hardest worker on the team and everyone follows suit it is a culture that leads to success. As for the rest of the league, they get outcoached, outworked and out smarted by the Pats. How many games do the Pats give away with stupid play? We were all shocked by the defensive mistakes to start the year. Blown coverages and a leaky front seven. How long did that last? Other teams don't fix those things but the Pats did even with out Hightower. That bad play happens around the league every week. I remember one high profile DB a few years back that didn't make much of an effort on a tackle during the preseason, maybe 5,6 years ago. Like he didn't really want to get his nose in there. I saw it pretty clearly but the announcers said nothing. That guy was cut the following week and he had been in the league starting for another team. Who was the high profile WR from Indy that quit because the Pats practices were too hard? It's the Patriot Way!! or the highway I just don't agree. We have the most talent and the most depth. Our coaching helps gets the most out of them, but the next man up way only works when you have talent. Undrafted guys like Butler, Jones and the rookie Butler this year. We can over come Hightower's injury because we have Van Noy and a solid Vet in Harris on the bench. We are most likely going to let Butler leave and we can because we have Jones. The guy was a burner coming out of College and was rated as a mid to late round pick. We traded Jones, a great talent. The reason was simple, you can't have great depth when paying too many guys mega deals. Bill the GM is just as good as Bill the coach and that's the scary thing. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2017 8:17:48 GMT -5
You just had back to back Post’s where the First said we don’t have the best talent and the second said we have the best talent... I’m sure there is context there but it’s confusing..
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 21, 2017 8:27:29 GMT -5
Going back to the Patriots way... they have an advantage because of continuity. The coaches carry over from year to year and they hire from within. When they dont have a guy ready Bill leaves the position open. This allows them to build from one year to the next. Yes they need to start “over” again each year to catch up new players and this year had more turnover than usual so we should have seen the slow start coming. They don’t try to implement everything at once. They start with a base and layer things in from there but they give players the platform to work off of and each week it grows and morphs into something else.
The fact they have the continuity allows them to focus on small details of the game. Situational football that comes into play every week and they master it. They have almost two decades of film now that they can show every player who comes in an odd situation and let them know how it will one day help them win a game so the buy in is easy. The fact they have a long track record of cutting players who don’t also helps.
I remember a play at the start of last year (or the year before) where James White ran out of bounds half a yard short of a first down instead of lowering his shoulder into the DB and getting the yardage. Patriots has to punt. It stuck out to me at the time and i thought wow he better never do that again. Ever since then I’ve never seen him do something like that again. I guarantee you that was on film in the meeting on Monday and probably every week that season so he and everyone else go the point. No team lowers their pads on that sideline for the extra yardage better than the Pats. Small thing but it wins games... There are times to just go out of bounds and avoid more contact and the Patriots probably should do it more but there’s a reason they don’t.
Lastly, people wonder why starters are in games so late during blow outs. There is a purpose: it helps develop a mindset that every minute matters and never let your guard down. The Falcons probably wish they had that mindset.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 21, 2017 12:58:47 GMT -5
You just had back to back Post’s where the First said we don’t have the best talent and the second said we have the best talent... I’m sure there is context there but it’s confusing.. Not sure what you are trying to say, but are you talking to me? Using "You" makes it seem that way and both my posts said the same thing. The other guy thinks that guys from Rutgers and undrafted guys means the players are bad. It's not confusing at all. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 22, 2017 8:55:24 GMT -5
I'm the other guy and I never said players were bad. But if you don't think there is a talent difference between undrafted FA's and guys out of Rutgers vs high draft picks and players from out of the SEC well I really don't know what to say. I am pretty sure teams around the league universally covet there draft picks especially the high ones. The Pats have pretty much gone without high picks and have had a few taken away yet they win year in year out.
Yes the Pats have better depth because of how BB manages the cap but the performance of the team and the players has more to do with coaching than pure talent. BB is one of those guys that can beat you with his and he can beat you with yours. Except of course for Brady.
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