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9/18-9/20 Red Sox @ Orioles Series Thread
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 21, 2017 9:46:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have this years dress up photo?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 21, 2017 9:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 21, 2017 10:04:29 GMT -5
This Reds series is big, Fister has reverted back to who he was earlier.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 21, 2017 10:07:58 GMT -5
Does anyone have this years dress up photo? On one tweet I saw, somebody commented that photos weren't allowed in the clubhouse.
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 21, 2017 13:20:31 GMT -5
It's two straight years for this team's postseason appearances. Hope we don't have to face Indians again.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 21, 2017 13:40:49 GMT -5
It's two straight years for this team's postseason appearances. Hope we don't have to face Indians again. Do you expect the Yankees to beat them ?
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Post by station13 on Sept 21, 2017 15:06:47 GMT -5
Does anyone have this years dress up photo? Rookies don't dress up anymore, it's been banned by MLB.
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Post by ramireja on Sept 21, 2017 16:52:48 GMT -5
Does anyone have this years dress up photo? Rookies don't dress up anymore, it's been banned by MLB. I'm sure the Yankees have filed an official complaint to the league.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 21, 2017 18:10:19 GMT -5
I have no idea who to root for in the Tampa Bay and Baltimore game. I mean it's lovely that one of them has to lose, but I also don't want them to get too high of a draft pick. I feel like I'm the US in WWII watching the Nazis fight the Commies. It might be like whenever I watch the NY Giants and Cowboys battle and root for the stadium to collapse.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 21, 2017 21:54:46 GMT -5
Why would you ever root for the Giants
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 21, 2017 22:53:37 GMT -5
Why would you ever root for the Giants Because they're playing the Cowboys.
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Post by nomar on Sept 21, 2017 23:31:44 GMT -5
Why would you ever root for the Giants Because they're playing the Cowboys. I'm a Giants fan because my grandparents liked the Giants (they became NFL fans pre Patriots). This OL is hell.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 2:34:30 GMT -5
Because they're playing the Cowboys. I'm a Giants fan because my grandparents liked the Giants (they became NFL fans pre Patriots). This OL is hell. For people that don't know, prior to the AFL & Patriots, the NY Giants were the local team on TV in New England and the Baltimore Colts the enemy. The Giants had pretty much blue collar grind em out type teams while the Colts featured an aerial show with Johnny Unitas and Raymond Berry. Interestingly, at some point late 50's or early 60's Kyle Rote and Frank Gifford changed positions with each other. That was about the same time That Tony Kubec and Tommy Tresh traded positions for the Yankees. Kyle Rote, Andy Robustelli, Sam Hunt, Rosevelt Grier, Frank Gifford, Y.A. Tittle et al were a pretty powerful team. In spite of having the best team on the planet for several years, it was because of Joe Namath's Jets and not the Raiders that people began to take the AFL seriously. East coast bias existed then too.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 5:07:06 GMT -5
From Speier's 108 stitches:
That’s why Wednesday night represented a milestone not just for Chris Sale but for all of the members of the Red Sox. During the eighth inning of the lefthander’s dominant performance, players and coaches were transformed into fans, breathless with anticipation as they hoped to see the Red Sox ace’s 300th strikeout of the season.
There were groans when Orioles slugger Chris Davis – a prime candidate for a strikeout – led off the frame with a first-pitch groundout, and more dismay when J.J. Hardy followed with another quick groundout. But Sale dispelled any notions of potential disappointment by freezing lefty Ryan Flaherty with a slider for the milestone punchout, producing an eruption in the dugout. People who had spent decades in the game celebrated with the same exuberance, awe, and wonder experienced by the paying customers at Camden Yards. “Honestly, it gives you chills,” said Red Sox pitching coach Carl Willis, who has worked with four Cy Young winners – CC Sabathia in 2007, Cliff Lee in 2008, Felix Hernandez in 2010, and Rick Porcello in 2016 – but had never witnessed a 300-strikeout season. “You see things happen on a daily basis that you’ve never seen before, but to see someone accomplish something like that, I mean really, it kind of leaves you speechless. At the end of the day, you have to feel blessed to be in the presence of it.” . . . Weigh that against 11 extra pitches. There was no way Farrell was taking him out of the game at 299. Consider how very few have done it while facing DHs.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 5:20:20 GMT -5
From FanGraph's newsletter:
Five years ago, Craig Kimbrel became the first pitcher to finish a full season while striking out more than half of the hitters he faced. (Just barely, at 50.2 percent, but barely counts.) At the time, it was ridiculous, something wholly unexpected from a player in his second full major-league season. Now, someone else has done it, too—Aroldis Chapman in 2014, with 52.5 percent—and for a while, it looked as if Kimbrel wouldn't get near that mark again. He was still one of baseball's better relievers, sure, but as his numbers slipped over his last few years in San Diego and a knee injury frustrated him in his first season in Boston, it seemed that his 24-year-old season was a peak he'd never climb back to. Between 2012 and 2017, he never struck out more than 40 percent of the batters he faced.
This year, though, has destroyed that narrative. Jeff Sullivan examined the reliever back in May, declaring Craig Kimbrel Is Basically Perfect Again, and Kimbrel has only doubled down on proving that sentiment true in the months that have followed. Entering Thursday, he was striking out more than half of batters again. (50.4 percent.) He's walking less than half as many as he did last year, fewer than 6 percent compared to more than 13 percent. Batters are whiffing on his fastball nearly a quarter of the time, slightly more than they did even in 2012 and significantly more than has been the case in recent years. (13 percent in 2016.) In 65 innings of work so far—the most that he's pitched since 2013, and more than he did even in 2012—he's allowed batters to hit .131. His strikeout to walk ratio is 8.6. Craig Kimbrel has been basically perfect again.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 22, 2017 6:28:45 GMT -5
Why would you ever root for the Giants Because they're playing the Cowboys. Who cares about the Cowboys? You'd seriously root for New York over Dallas?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 22, 2017 6:32:33 GMT -5
I'm a Giants fan because my grandparents liked the Giants (they became NFL fans pre Patriots). This OL is hell. For people that don't know, prior to the AFL & Patriots, the NY Giants were the local team on TV in New England and the Baltimore Colts the enemy. The Giants had pretty much blue collar grind em out type teams while the Colts featured an aerial show with Johnny Unitas and Raymond Berry. Interestingly, at some point late 50's or early 60's Kyle Rote and Frank Gifford changed positions with each other. That was about the same time That Tony Kubec and Tommy Tresh traded positions for the Yankees. Kyle Rote, Andy Robustelli, Sam Hunt, Rosevelt Grier, Frank Gifford, Y.A. Tittle et al were a pretty powerful team. In spite of having the best team on the planet for several years, it was because of Joe Namath's Jets and not the Raiders that people began to take the AFL seriously. East coast bias existed then too. I knew that. Its still the arch-nemesis of your team that stopped 19-0 and is just obnoxious in general. We only play the Cowboys once ever 4 years and almost always beat them.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 6:39:14 GMT -5
Not my teams, I haven't followed football/basketball/hockey in about 20 years.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 22, 2017 6:56:50 GMT -5
For the record I don't think I ever said I'd root for the Giants, in fact I said that I'd rather root for the stadium to collapse than pick either of the Giants or the Cowboys. (Harsh but it paints the picture) In fact, the only reason I can think to root for the Giants is A. if they are about to get a top draft pick and a win allows another team to pick ahead of them or B. if they are playing a rival and their loss helps New England either get in the playoffs or get home field advantage at some stage.
One of my best friends is a Jets fan (that's not the joke) that lives in Texas and he hates Cowboys fans so much that he roots for the Patriots whenever they play Dallas. Giants fans might only be obnoxious in the Northeast, but Cowboys fans are everywhere.
Edit: My apologies for the off-topic rant.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 7:06:38 GMT -5
Peter GammonsVerified account @pgammo Following More One trusted exec watched their three games in Baltimore and said, "the two most impressive developments were Price and Carson Smith."
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Post by kingofthetrill on Sept 22, 2017 7:32:00 GMT -5
There is certainly a lot to look forward to.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 22, 2017 8:21:37 GMT -5
Weigh that against 11 extra pitches. There was no way Farrell was taking him out of the game at 299. Consider how very few have done it while facing DHs. I think the point, though, was that he's getting at least one, if not two, more starts. It's not like he was going to go without a strikeout in those.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 8:39:08 GMT -5
Weigh that against 11 extra pitches. There was no way Farrell was taking him out of the game at 299. Consider how very few have done it while facing DHs. I think the point, though, was that he's getting at least one, if not two, more starts. It's not like he was going to go without a strikeout in those. I know what the point was, it's been debated ad nausea and about the only people I've seen with an issue are posters here and Nick Cafardo. Just posting what Speier said.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 22, 2017 8:40:04 GMT -5
Weigh that against 11 extra pitches. There was no way Farrell was taking him out of the game at 299. Consider how very few have done it while facing DHs. I think the point, though, was that he's getting at least one, if not two, more starts. It's not like he was going to go without a strikeout in those. I hate taking this side, but the thought is that it would have been so much more impressive and uplifting at the end of a dominant game on the same night they clinched a playoff berth than it may have been if it happened at the beginning of a mediocre or lousy game.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 22, 2017 8:54:01 GMT -5
I think the point, though, was that he's getting at least one, if not two, more starts. It's not like he was going to go without a strikeout in those. I hate taking this side, but the thought is that it would have been so much more impressive and uplifting at the end of a dominant game on the same night they clinched a playoff berth than it may have been if it happened at the beginning of a mediocre or lousy game. I only needed to see the team reaction when he came off the field to understand the significance of that decision. ADD: Bobby Valentine would have pulled him.
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