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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 10, 2017 20:23:48 GMT -5
I'm scoreboard watching, but the Celtics are getting handled. Is Tatum and Horford even playing? Well, Kyrie is out with a potential concussion and possibly a broken nose. Jesus. What is going on?!! |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 10, 2017 20:31:44 GMT -5
No Horford, no Irving , Smart going 1 for 8 and Tatum going 2 for 6 will do it. With Brown and Morris being quite. Larkin is keeping us somewhat close.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 10, 2017 21:08:51 GMT -5
It doesn't help that Jaylen looks like he forgot how to play basketball. Avery also loved to do that from time to time, it's the curse of the 2 guard lol.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 10, 2017 22:06:45 GMT -5
They had 0 business winning this game, this was seriously impressive and still can't believe it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 10, 2017 22:16:04 GMT -5
Lol they still won. Unbelievable. This streak will never end.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 10, 2017 22:17:21 GMT -5
How do you even win that game? Amazing, just amazing.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 10, 2017 22:26:34 GMT -5
Defense is how and why they won. Would love to know the last time we won a game shooting 35.7% from the field. When the guys taking the most shots all had bad nights. Brown was 3 for 14 for 10 points, Smart was 3 for 16 for 8 points and Rozier was 3 for 12 for 16 points. Irving goes down and Larkin steps up for 16 points on 5 for 8 shooting. The depth is crazy good.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 11, 2017 7:42:25 GMT -5
Was an impressive performance; terrible in so many ways but the fight they showed was great.
Stevens rotations are always interesting to watch. Who’s in the game during the first part of the fourth? Yabusele... he made some nice plays too. His ability to keep his entire team engaged is phenomenal.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 11, 2017 8:49:02 GMT -5
Ainge has done a lot of fantastic moves, but upgrading from Doc to Stevens and getting a 1st round pick for his troubles was a masterpiece.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 11, 2017 9:40:41 GMT -5
That win was all about defense, what a big character win that shows the value of Stevens. Like I said, defense doesn't take a night off.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 12, 2017 18:31:59 GMT -5
Lol this streak will never end. It'll keep going to 13 at least against the Nets, or should.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 12, 2017 20:17:18 GMT -5
Its nice to win these last 2 so short handed but they really need Kyrie and Al both. The offense is putrid without them.
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Post by jmei on Nov 12, 2017 21:29:12 GMT -5
Theis has been a revelation. Rim protection, fundamentally sound rebounding, pick-and-roll, even legitimate three-point range. Big man depth was a major question mark entering the season, and he's shored that up nicely.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 12, 2017 21:38:02 GMT -5
Theis has been a revelation. Rim protection, fundamentally sound rebounding, pick-and-roll, even legitimate three-point range. Big man depth was a major question mark entering the season, and he's shored that up nicely. He's what I wanted Kelly Olynik to be years ago. What a refresh. Rebounding is a strength. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 12, 2017 22:04:27 GMT -5
Theis has been a revelation. Rim protection, fundamentally sound rebounding, pick-and-roll, even legitimate three-point range. Big man depth was a major question mark entering the season, and he's shored that up nicely. He’s been a beast rebounding  |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 12, 2017 22:05:46 GMT -5
Theis has been a revelation. Rim protection, fundamentally sound rebounding, pick-and-roll, even legitimate three-point range. Big man depth was a major question mark entering the season, and he's shored that up nicely. And the blocks...  |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 12, 2017 22:09:19 GMT -5
It might partly be the homer in me, but I never liked fouls like the offensive foul called on Tatum near the end. The defender is pretty much all over him allowing him no space to move, if you allow that you should allow every contact that happens afterwards. Tatum's arms weren't extended, the only way to avoid the guy's face would be not moving at all. I don't like it.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 12, 2017 23:12:19 GMT -5
Another great aspect to all these young guys and or rookies playing this well already is the team control and cost is a huge bargain moving forward. They could keep this team together for a while. How many of these guys are contributing more value over cost and how does that not grow even more significant as they develop?
Theis is a huge bargain already and I think his minutes should increase.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 13, 2017 8:38:05 GMT -5
Baynes and Larkin are the only unrestricted free agents after this season. Way too early, but my guess is Baynes is back and Larkin earns a bigger role and more money somewhere else. Marcus Smart will be a RFA and my guess is they resign him for a year. Morris will be an unrestricted free agen. Theis contract is up but they can offer him a QO if 1.8m as a RFA.
Point is this team definitely has another full year mostly together if they choose to be then the following year it’s still mostly together but could start to change.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 13, 2017 11:38:05 GMT -5
They are going to have to start putting Brad Stevens into the box score - with loads of assists.
One of these games they won't have that last finishing push...but we have to love what we see.
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 13, 2017 12:49:12 GMT -5
Theis has been a revelation. Rim protection, fundamentally sound rebounding, pick-and-roll, even legitimate three-point range. Big man depth was a major question mark entering the season, and he's shored that up nicely. He's what I wanted Kelly Olynik to be years ago. What a refresh. Rebounding is a strength. Rebounding is surprisingly a strength given that the C's are still the NBA's shortest team. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 13, 2017 18:02:27 GMT -5
He's what I wanted Kelly Olynik to be years ago. What a refresh. Rebounding is a strength. Rebounding is surprisingly a strength given that the C's are still the NBA's shortest team. You may be approaching this the wrong way. If it was all about height, then the Round Mound of Rebound would never have led the league or finished his career north of 11 rebounds a game. It's about positioning, muscle, and athleticism. These Celtics have that with a bunch of guys who can jump out of their shoes including Theis. Check out the drive on this highlight reel at 50 seconds in (also worth it just for the German rap background): When he's in there with some combination of Horford, Baynes, Brown, Tatum, Smart, and even Rozier, they haul down a bunch of boards. What makes the German kid special is his work on the offensive glass. That's the coin of the realm and he's got a bunch of pocket change so far. He was voted defensive player of the year in Germany's Federal Basketball League. The fans have gotten a taste of that also. You can check that out on the highlights right from the start as he gets three blocks off the same player underneath the basket. He's definitely got a future in the NBA and it's surprising he went un-drafted in 2013 |
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 13, 2017 18:24:39 GMT -5
Rebounding is surprisingly a strength given that the C's are still the NBA's shortest team. You may be approaching this the wrong way. If it was all about height, then the Round Mound of Rebound would never have led the league or finished his career north of 11 rebounds a game. It's about positioning, muscle, and athleticism. These Celtics have that with a bunch of guys who can jump out of their shoes including Theis. Check out the drive on this highlight reel at 50 seconds in (also worth it just for the German rap background): When he's in there with some combination of Horford, Baynes, Brown, Tatum, Smart, and even Rozier, they haul down a bunch of boards. What makes the German kid special is his work on the offensive glass. That's the coin of the realm and he's got a bunch of pocket change so far. He was voted defensive player of the year in Germany's Federal Basketball League. The fans have gotten a taste of that also. You can check that out on the highlights right from the start as he gets three blocks off the same player underneath the basket. He's definitely got a future in the NBA and it's surprising he went un-drafted in 2013 Norm I hear you. What you say IMO is true. Length, tenacity, instinct, desire all play a part in rebounding. All things being equal though, height is an advantage. Having us in the top 5 rebounding teams while still being shortest in collective stature is remarkable. Is it sustainable....given the naked facts? We'll see. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 14, 2017 0:25:29 GMT -5
The 2013 draft was very deep in international talent 13 players total getting drafted, with 7 in first round. Guys like Adetokoubo, Nogueira, Schroder and Gobert. He was like 6'8.5'' and 220 pounds. Small ball wasn't like it is today. His type used to be a tweener in NBA. SF size, but really a big. If he was in last years draft he would have been drafted most likely. Guys in chat rooms really had him nailed in 2012 for what he is. forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1205129What really shocks me is that no other team even wanted this guy? He takes a two year minimum deal, with only one year guaranteed? The average fan couldn't tell as he was ranked in the 80s and 90s of that 2013 draft. Zero scouting reports, no updates. Heck I can't even find his wingspan, which I really want to know. Yet scouts from other teams didn't see this? A perfect big for the new NBA? It feels like we got very lucky. Getting a guy that can rebound at a high level, can really play D including blocking shots and can even shoot the ball. Can we maintain our rebounding? I see no reason why we can't. Theis isn't going to stop rebounding, neither is Brown, Tatum, Smart, Rozier and Baynes. It's not just one player, just a group of athletes that other teams are having trouble dealing with. When you are going against Brown, Smart and Rozier that's hard for any team in the league. Rozier alone is a beast rebounding. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 14, 2017 7:04:58 GMT -5
I don’t think that many teams have deep international scouting teams. Theis was a 25 year old playing in the German League, not exactly the best league in Europe and it’s not easy to figure out who’s going to translate from the European game to the NBA game.
Basically, it doesn’t surprise me.
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