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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 6, 2018 11:12:15 GMT -5
Towns is also a meh defender. I expect him to improve, but his footwork and feel for defensive rotations leaves a lot to be desired. True, he's been nothing to write home about defensively since he was drafted. The dissonance between the eye test on KAT and Wiggins and their actual production on defense is honestly jarring and makes me question the coaching, not that they would be running for DPOY or anything like that, but some level of competency should be expected. Kyrie honestly looked like he was Nick Young levels of awfulness on defense in Cleveland and how he seems serviceable here and "serviceable" could lead the Wolves to the conference finals. This might be irrational, but one of the reasons I don't group them is because Towns looks a passionate player, meanwhile Wiggins doesn't look like he gives a sh*t half the time. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 6, 2018 15:06:42 GMT -5
Terry Rozier is having by far the best stretch of his career. We shouldn't overlook 6 straight games with him scoring in double figures. Last 6 games he averages 15.3 points, 6 rebounds, 2.3 assists,.8 steals and .7 blocks. While shooting 59.3% from the field, 50% from 3 and 83.3% from the line. Those would be great numbers for a starter playing 30 plus minutes, he did that while averaging 22.9 minutes a night.
Even guys like Billups on TV are starting to notice, saying he's going to be a starter for someone down the road.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 6, 2018 15:53:16 GMT -5
Terry Rozier is having by far the best stretch of his career. We shouldn't overlook 6 straight games with him scoring in double figures. Last 6 games he averages 15.3 points, 6 rebounds, 2.3 assists,.8 steals and .7 blocks. While shooting 59.3% from the field, 50% from 3 and 83.3% from the line. Those would be great numbers for a starter playing 30 plus minutes, he did that while averaging 22.9 minutes a night. Even guys like Billups on TV are starting to notice, saying he's going to be a starter for someone down the road. There’s a difference between not overlooking and over-reacting. 6 games is 6 games. He’s clearly improving - and playing great basketball right now - but I’m not ready to signup for this is what he is now. Hopefully it is. If it is, might be harder to keep him longterm than Smart. If he does take a massive leap and puts his entire game together then it either increases his trade value or frees up Brown to be traded. |
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 6, 2018 20:02:48 GMT -5
Smart’s shot selection continues to be the worst.
I’m also pretty over Baynes getting starts. He’s been bad for awhile now.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 6, 2018 20:33:57 GMT -5
Smart’s shot selection continues to be the worst. . Yet the more he shoots the better the team does... it’s an odd phenomenon. |
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Post by jmei on Jan 6, 2018 21:12:54 GMT -5
Smart has been attacking the rim and taking more shots in the paint with some success (including drawn fouls) recently.
One of Kyrie’s foibles is that, around the rim, he’ll shy away from contact and try to find a way to get a clean shot off as opposed to trying to get to the line. He obviously is doing just fine with that strategy, but can’t help but think he’d be a more efficient offensive player if he tried to draw fouls more often.
Some of the shine on Baynes and Theiss is wearing off. They could use another good two-way big.
Brown’s struggles at the free throw line is a minor but persistent annoyance.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 6, 2018 21:19:21 GMT -5
I’m good with Kyrie not getting slammed like Isaiah by drawing contact but yea if it were possible to turn it on and off that’d be ideal.
Brown needs to work on the line this offseason and turn that part of his game around.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 6, 2018 21:47:29 GMT -5
Terry Rozier is having by far the best stretch of his career. We shouldn't overlook 6 straight games with him scoring in double figures. Last 6 games he averages 15.3 points, 6 rebounds, 2.3 assists,.8 steals and .7 blocks. While shooting 59.3% from the field, 50% from 3 and 83.3% from the line. Those would be great numbers for a starter playing 30 plus minutes, he did that while averaging 22.9 minutes a night. Even guys like Billups on TV are starting to notice, saying he's going to be a starter for someone down the road. There’s a difference between not overlooking and over-reacting. 6 games is 6 games. He’s clearly improving - and playing great basketball right now - but I’m not ready to signup for this is what he is now. Hopefully it is. If it is, might be harder to keep him longterm than Smart. If he does take a massive leap and puts his entire game together then it either increases his trade value or frees up Brown to be traded. My point was simple, we've never seen this from Rozier before. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 6, 2018 22:45:47 GMT -5
Amazing that a 19 year old Tatum took over that game in the last minute, whether it was against Brooklyn or not doesn't matter imo. That was impressive.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 6, 2018 22:57:20 GMT -5
There’s a difference between not overlooking and over-reacting. 6 games is 6 games. He’s clearly improving - and playing great basketball right now - but I’m not ready to signup for this is what he is now. Hopefully it is. If it is, might be harder to keep him longterm than Smart. If he does take a massive leap and puts his entire game together then it either increases his trade value or frees up Brown to be traded. My point was simple, we've never seen this from Rozier before. You mushed him. |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jan 6, 2018 23:40:49 GMT -5
Amazing that a 19 year old Tatum took over that game in the last minute, whether it was against Brooklyn or not doesn't matter imo. That was impressive. His defense was amazing. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 7, 2018 0:03:50 GMT -5
My point was simple, we've never seen this from Rozier before. You mushed him. I praise a guy and he sucks, I slam a guy he does awesome. No more positive talk from me.😎 |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 7, 2018 0:27:07 GMT -5
Smart looks awesome with his weight off. Rozier has taken it to a new level offensively.
Jason Tatum is untouchable for the next 10 years for me.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 7, 2018 8:16:28 GMT -5
I praise a guy and he sucks, I slam a guy he does awesome. No more positive talk from me.😎 Whenever things aren’t going well with the Pats I text my friends saying “this sucks can’t believe they lost this game”.... I’m a mush so I work in the reverse game as well. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 7, 2018 8:17:20 GMT -5
Jason Tatum is untouchable for the next 10 years for me. I’m sure he’d be relieved to hear he’s safe from you for 10 years. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 7, 2018 8:29:32 GMT -5
Just because it’s January and it’s about as far away from draft time as possible... let’s pretend the Celtics ended up with the second pick for a moment... also, let’s forget what we want.
if Danny thinks Dončić is the best player available and a star but Bagley and Bamba are sitting there who he likes but not as much as Dončić does he take the wing over the Center in he great big man draft? Do the Celtics actually prefer that?
Would they want to run out a future lineup of:
Kyrie
Brown
Dončić
Hayward
Tatum
For long stretches at a time...
Are they still in a position where Danny Just wants to draft the best player overall and forget about positions? Should you always do that at the top of the draft?
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 7, 2018 9:05:48 GMT -5
Just because it’s January and it’s about as far away from draft time as possible... let’s pretend the Celtics ended up with the second pick for a moment... also, let’s forget what we want. if Danny thinks Dončić is the best player available and a star but Bagley and Bamba are sitting there who he likes but not as much as Dončić does he take the wing over the Center in he great big man draft? Do the Celtics actually prefer that? Would they want to run out a future lineup of: Kyrie Brown Dončić Hayward Tatum For long stretches at a time... Are they still in a position where Danny Just wants to draft the best player overall and forget about positions? Should you always do that at the top of the draft? I don't think so with out making a big trade. How many wings does one team need? Doncic is probably going to be a great player but the C's need some size that can play within Stevens system and I don't know who that is. I think with GH coming back next year the C's already have a numbers crunch for 2 and 3's type players unless you look at Tatum as a 4 sometimes. Keep saying it but I will again, Horford needs another big so he can play more at the 4. |
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 7, 2018 11:47:44 GMT -5
Good chance Doncic goes at 1, so the Celtics would have no shot at him, but if he's there, I wouldnt be surprised to see Danny move back a couple spots, grab someone who fits better, and pick up an asset for his troubles.
That's if anyone is brave enough to pick up the phone when he calls.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 7, 2018 11:52:57 GMT -5
Jason Tatum is untouchable for the next 10 years for me. I’m sure he’d be relieved to hear he’s safe from you for 10 years. A 19 year old kid that can take over the last 2 minutes of games in the NBA should be untouchable by anyone. They don't exist. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 7, 2018 13:12:26 GMT -5
I’m sure he’d be relieved to hear he’s safe from you for 10 years. A 19 year old kid that can take over the last 2 minutes of games in the NBA should be untouchable by anyone. They don't exist. AND he has been doing it all year!! I am trying to suppress my thoughts on how far he can go, great kid, smart, works hard and has all the tools to be a superstar. The fact that he is doing what he is in crunch time already is a big sign, his team trusts him and he doesn't shy away. This is why many on here are already hoping to see more in the first 3 qtrs as I am but he is just getting used to when to assert himself within the team, the league, the offense and the schedule. How about all the thunderous dunks lately, tough to stop the 3 and not get beat to the paint. And his teammates will tell you his mid-range game is his strongest from playing this summer. How about 6 blocked shots and strong all around D at the same time. Scoring is easy for this kid at 19 and a rail. How is he going to be 2 years from now with 20 lbs added to that frame? |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 7, 2018 13:18:37 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 7, 2018 17:28:39 GMT -5
We dodged a 'high-pitched whine' bullet by trading out and not picking Lonzo. Luck, sagacity or Provenance...no matter. Lavar has been and will continue to be poison for the duration.
I want the Lakers to be bad but not too bad. Ease up a little Lavar....#1 is in sight.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 7, 2018 18:24:51 GMT -5
We dodged a 'high-pitched whine' bullet by trading out and not picking Lonzo. Luck, sagacity or Provenance...no matter. Lavar has been and will continue to be poison for the duration. I want the Lakers to be bad but not too bad. Ease up a little Lavar....#1 is in sight. Well the draft lottery could be on the Celtics side in this case. A lot easier to get the number 2-5 pick than number one, even with the worst record. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 7, 2018 20:11:08 GMT -5
Atlanta plays the Lakers tonight in LA... expect a Lakers win
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 7, 2018 20:14:10 GMT -5
I believe the Lakers are currently the #2 pick, prior to lottery results. There is half a season to go. The record differential with the 7 closest teams is minimal.
If the Lakers shed salary particularly with a trade of Randle, they could drop to the bottom. If they keep him and the young core matures, they could finish outside the lowest five. The Lakers have no great incentive either way.
They play their 'equal' in the Hawks tonight at home....Not sure how I want this to go...but with Ball and Lopez back, suspect a Laker win.
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