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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 13, 2018 12:14:44 GMT -5
Cowboys just cut Dez... I’m going to say pass for the Patriots, even though they have the cap room because I don’t want to pay him 10m. If his number was only like 7-8 then I’d be good with it. Maybe he takes less 5o play here for one year? |
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Post by jmei on Apr 13, 2018 12:27:09 GMT -5
Dez isn’t going to get $10M, but even if he was available for cheaper, he’s not a great fit for the Patriots’ offense. He’s never been a great route runner, and Brady wants his receivers to be where they’re supposed to be. Ochocinco didn’t fit for the same reason.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 13, 2018 12:29:05 GMT -5
Cowboys just cut Dez... I’m going to say pass for the Patriots, even though they have the cap room because I don’t want to pay him 10m. If his number was only like 7-8 then I’d be good with it. He is not what he once was. Unless he'd be willing to take a prove it deal, definitely pass. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 13, 2018 13:01:51 GMT -5
Patriots are said to be targeting wide receivers early in the draft, so that'd reason number 1 if they pass on Dez.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 13, 2018 14:02:14 GMT -5
Patriots are said to be targeting wide receivers early in the draft, so that'd reason number 1 if they pass on Dez. Meh, I think reason number 1 would be a diva who’s not that good anymore isn’t a good fit. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 13, 2018 18:59:18 GMT -5
Patriots are said to be targeting wide receivers early in the draft, so that'd reason number 1 if they pass on Dez. Seriously? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 13, 2018 19:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 13, 2018 20:24:36 GMT -5
I think you both missed the sarcasm about no one knowing anything about what Belichick is going to do. |
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 14, 2018 4:36:00 GMT -5
Too many other needs to take a WR early in the draft. They gotta get an LB, EDGE, OT, QB, S or CB before looking at WR I think. I hope BB uses this draft to get more athletic and faster on Defense.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 14, 2018 6:31:39 GMT -5
You can say the same thing about every position outside of G/C and DT when looking at the players they have had contact with. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 14, 2018 6:45:48 GMT -5
Too many other needs to take a WR early in the draft. They gotta get an LB, EDGE, OT, QB, S or CB before looking at WR I think. I hope BB uses this draft to get more athletic and faster on Defense. I agree in that I wouldn't want them targeting a WR out of need. I would prefer a defensive heavy draft myself. Yet in the second round there is going to be some really interesting players. You could also make a really good case that WR is a bigger need long-term than DE, S, or CB. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 14, 2018 6:53:49 GMT -5
Dez isn’t going to get $10M, but even if he was available for cheaper, he’s not a great fit for the Patriots’ offense. He’s never been a great route runner, and Brady wants his receivers to be where they’re supposed to be. Ochocinco didn’t fit for the same reason. In general I agree, he's not a perfect fit. At the same time he could be a weapon and I truly believe Bill and Josh could get a lot out of him. Lets not forget Ochocinco was 33 when he played for us, his last year that he ever played. His struggles were just as much physical as they were fit. He just wasn't the same player he once was. I'd say pass more because I don't want Bryant the person than Bryant the player. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 14, 2018 7:36:05 GMT -5
You never know what BB is going to do but they have loaded up on WR this offseason and they are young, former 1st or 2nd rd picks. Really don't see this as a position of need, if anything they are loaded up. I happen to think that Matthews is going to really shine but who knows. They certainly have plenty of talent to throw at the wall to see what sticks.
Given Hightowers inability to stay healthy I consider LB and left tackle to be the biggest needs.
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Post by jmei on Apr 14, 2018 8:29:30 GMT -5
The only wide receivers under contract beyond next year are Edelman (who turns 33 in 2019) and Mitchell. There’s a legitimate long-term hole there.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 15, 2018 13:20:46 GMT -5
The 2018 group is Edleman, Hogan, Matthews, Mitchell,Dorsett, Britt, and Patterson. Then you have the practice squad players Riley McCarron and Cody Hollister that were signed to future deals. That's one of the deepest groups in the league. Riley McCarron is my sleeper pick to make the team right now. Which would give you another player under contract. None of the free agents would seem like they'll be hard to resign outside of Matthews. Even Matthews being more of a possession receiver than big-time outside receiver is unlikely to cost more than we can afford if he has a good year like I expect.
So it's a rather weird position to be in. You could use a young WR, but don't really need one in 2018. Going WR in the first round would still shock me. I don't really see the value and it's just not the Patriots way because WRs are risky. There are a bunch of WRs in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds that make sense though.
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 16, 2018 4:04:47 GMT -5
The options and the flexibility that BB has this year are going to make the draft fun to watch. I still think he trades down with one of the first round picks the early second round and obtains a 4th round pick, which he currently lacks. There are a fair amount of needs to fill, but I am hoping he goes defense dominant in the first 3 rounds and beings in a few guys who are athletic and versatile. Of the 5 picks he has in the first 3 rounds I hope 3 are those type of defensive players along with a OT and a QB for the future.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 16, 2018 7:43:03 GMT -5
It'll be funny when BB drafts someone who no one has ever heard of in the 3rd round. The Rutgers backup punter. He just knows how to play. And then he becomes the best punter of all-time and it takes 10 years for Pats fans to get over it.
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 16, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -5
Now that Denver has decided to cut CJ Anderson I wonder if BB will be interested in bringing him on board to compete with MG and Hill for a RB slot. I tend to doubt they will be able to sign him though, as I see him getting better offers from other teams who can give him a better shot to make the team or start. He might be too good still to sign a Hill like deal. I would definitely give it shot though if I were BB. Happy B-day to BB by the way! It is amazing to think he drafted TB12 19 years ago today...what a great ride it has been.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2018 14:34:04 GMT -5
Now that Denver has decided to cut CJ Anderson I wonder if BB will be interested in bringing him on board to compete with MG and Hill for a RB slot. I tend to doubt they will be able to sign him though, as I see him getting better offers from other teams who can give him a better shot to make the team or start. He might be too good still to sign a Hill like deal. I would definitely give it shot though if I were BB. Happy B-day to BB by the way! It is amazing to think he drafted TB12 19 years ago today...what a great ride it has been. Yup and now Brady is acting like a 19 year old spoilt baby. Skipping OTAs for the first time since they had Jimmy G on the roster. Now he’s gone and he’s not here. Love Brady, always will, but he’s putting his team first rep into question. Maybe all that was personal survival stuff. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2018 16:36:18 GMT -5
I do love that Bill got Harrison to retire so we can sign him fresh in December.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 16, 2018 16:46:35 GMT -5
Not really worried about Brady, it's Gronk. I hate giving guys more money by basically holding out, but give Gronk a few million more in incentives. We really need him for a few more years, make him happy. Gives him a chance to be the top paid TE. I'm sure that will also make Brady happy.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2018 16:49:02 GMT -5
Not really worried about Brady, it's Gronk. I hate giving guys more money by basically holding out, but give Gronk a few million more in incentives. We really need him for a few more years, make him happy. Gives him a chance to be the top paid TE. I'm sure that will also make Brady happy. Why in God’s name did they give Chung extra money? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 16, 2018 17:58:26 GMT -5
Not really worried about Brady, it's Gronk. I hate giving guys more money by basically holding out, but give Gronk a few million more in incentives. We really need him for a few more years, make him happy. Gives him a chance to be the top paid TE. I'm sure that will also make Brady happy. Why in God’s name did they give Chung extra money? Contract extension. He's getting like 3.4 million extra this year, put then we have two more years at about 3 million per. Not a bad contract given his play. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 16, 2018 18:38:47 GMT -5
Why in God’s name did they give Chung extra money? Contract extension. He's getting like 3.4 million extra this year, put then we have two more years at about 3 million per. Not a bad contract given his play. Meh; they had him under contract for multiple years. I would rather give that money to Gronk or to Dola than get some extra time for Chung. It was an unnecessary raise in my opinion. But no it’s not a bad contact overall. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 16, 2018 19:09:54 GMT -5
Contract extension. He's getting like 3.4 million extra this year, put then we have two more years at about 3 million per. Not a bad contract given his play. Meh; they had him under contract for multiple years. I would rather give that money to Gronk or to Dola than get some extra time for Chung. It was an unnecessary raise in my opinion. But no it’s not a bad contact overall. It was a 2 year extension that takes him through 2020. So it seems he was a free agent after this year and we got 2019 and 2020 now. I actually really like the gamble of swapping out Danny for Matthews. It's risky because maybe he doesn't click with Brady, but it adds more size. He can be a match-up problem for teams. Nevermind there's a chance he stays long-term. |
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