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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 3, 2018 22:34:56 GMT -5
Love it. It's been a long while since we had two 1st rounders.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 4, 2018 5:56:31 GMT -5
Let me start off by saying I really like the trade.
Let me also say that I'm kind of heartbroken that I never got to see a Edelman, Gronk, and Cooks offense unfold in fornt of Brady ever and it was possible.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2018 12:31:16 GMT -5
Now go get ODB to replace him. Got a better pick than they gave up for him with one fewer year of control. This draft must be bad. Even though OBJ is likely a better fit, I don't see it. Much rather go after Matthew's who I think is a great fit for us. I think this is about restocking our high end young talent. I don't see how you pay OBJ. This is about helping our future cap with cheap young players. I don't think this draft is bad. Some teams have like 20 players rated as first round talent. At 23 your going to get one, at 31 you might not. Going by current mocks pick number 23 helps get you an OT, LB or even a QB if one falls. The Rams are being short-sighted in my opinion. They have traded so many pick recently it's not even funny. The picks for Goff, then Watkins, Peters and now Cooks. They can't keep all those guys when Darnold is going to cost like 20 million a year. Then you have to worry about Goffs extension. They are acting like the Broncos years back, but that made sense. Giving an old Manning the talent to win before he was done. The Rams need to be thinking long-term with Goff, not short-term. So I don't think this trade has anything to do about the draft, more about how the Rams are building there teams. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 4, 2018 12:49:11 GMT -5
Not Pats related, but I can't get over what a physical freak that Saquon Barkley is. His pro-day: 6' 233lbs, 4.40 40, 29 reps. He might slide to 5-7 even though he's probably the best player in this draft because of so many teams looking for QBs trading up.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2018 13:19:50 GMT -5
If the Giants don't take Barkley at #2, he shouldn't fall below #4. The Browns can't pass on him. Get your QB, then get him a weapon to can make his life easier. Darnold and Barkley could go a long way towards rebuilding that team.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 4, 2018 15:54:06 GMT -5
Rashhan Evans coming for a pre-draft visit... yes please
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 4, 2018 16:00:21 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 4, 2018 17:18:23 GMT -5
He’s definitely interesting |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 4, 2018 17:44:21 GMT -5
If the Giants don't take Barkley at #2, he shouldn't fall below #4. The Browns can't pass on him. Get your QB, then get him a weapon to can make his life easier. Darnold and Barkley could go a long way towards rebuilding that team. Seems to me the Giants have an opportunity to make a trade and still get him. He looks like he will be a animal. Last guy I remember with that combination was Jamal Lewis. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 5, 2018 12:27:53 GMT -5
If the Giants don't take Barkley at #2, he shouldn't fall below #4. The Browns can't pass on him. Get your QB, then get him a weapon to can make his life easier. Darnold and Barkley could go a long way towards rebuilding that team. Seems to me the Giants have an opportunity to make a trade and still get him. He looks like he will be a animal. Last guy I remember with that combination was Jamal Lewis. What are you thinking? Trade with the Jets? You never know what's going to happen. Most people have Barkley as the top guy and the Browns, Broncos and Colts all have a need at RB. Then you got the Bucs at #7, who also have a need. Browns, Colts and Bucs won't trade up for a QB most likely. So if the Browns pass at 4 and Denver wants to move up maybe they could. If I was the Giants and I don't want a QB, I would trade the pick. Teams are offering up massive deals. As good as Barkley looks, you can still find stud RBs later in the draft. That's why Barkley to the Browns just makes so much sense. They don't need more picks, they can get a QB and then take the highest rated player, even if he's a RB. |
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 5, 2018 16:04:51 GMT -5
There's talk of the Bills trading up for the Giants' pick. I think Barkley will go #4 to the Browns.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 5, 2018 16:23:16 GMT -5
Seems to me the Giants have an opportunity to make a trade and still get him. He looks like he will be a animal. Last guy I remember with that combination was Jamal Lewis. What are you thinking? Trade with the Jets? You never know what's going to happen. Most people have Barkley as the top guy and the Browns, Broncos and Colts all have a need at RB. Then you got the Bucs at #7, who also have a need. Browns, Colts and Bucs won't trade up for a QB most likely. So if the Browns pass at 4 and Denver wants to move up maybe they could. If I was the Giants and I don't want a QB, I would trade the pick. Teams are offering up massive deals. As good as Barkley looks, you can still find stud RBs later in the draft. That's why Barkley to the Browns just makes so much sense. They don't need more picks, they can get a QB and then take the highest rated player, even if he's a RB. Yeah the Browns are in the drivers seat on getting Barkley unless the Gmen stay at 2 and take him. So unless they can get the Jets to move up one spot they would lose him. As you say they could get a haul for the pick but he is going to be special. Maybe the Browns can finally climb out of the cellar. |
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Apr 5, 2018 19:39:25 GMT -5
Scale of 1 -10 ... 10 being most likely. Will NE draft in their current slots in both the 1st and 2nd rounds? We all know BB won't stand pat. So then we all go along for the ride and Trust in Belichick. My guess is BB trades down a few times, adding picks in the next year's draft (or two).
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 5, 2018 19:39:46 GMT -5
Pats signed Jordan Matthews... he’s probably going to be a stud next year...
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 5, 2018 21:43:52 GMT -5
Pats signed Jordan Matthews... he’s probably going to be a stud next year... Great route runner, not that quick and has too many drops. He does have great size though. I wouldn't expect a stud, but he'll be serviceable in the slot. He's also a very good blocker. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 5, 2018 22:27:45 GMT -5
Matthews is a huge signing, perfect fit for this team and Tom Brady.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 5, 2018 22:34:10 GMT -5
Scale of 1 -10 ... 10 being most likely. Will NE draft in their current slots in both the 1st and 2nd rounds? We all know BB won't stand pat. So then we all go along for the ride and Trust in Belichick. My guess is BB trades down a few times, adding picks in the next year's draft (or two). Gotta be a 1, almost no chance that happens. Small chance they move up from 23 if the right player falls, more likely they trade back with one of those picks. Bill has to want to pick up a 4th or 5th round pick. He hates huge gaps in his draft board. I'd say the late first and late second are the most likely. |
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 6, 2018 6:08:18 GMT -5
Scale of 1 -10 ... 10 being most likely. Will NE draft in their current slots in both the 1st and 2nd rounds? We all know BB won't stand pat. So then we all go along for the ride and Trust in Belichick. My guess is BB trades down a few times, adding picks in the next year's draft (or two). I'll give it a 1. I really cannot imagine BB sitting in these spots without moving up or down. NE has no picks in the 4th or 5th round so I think he will try to move down and get one or two back in the mid-rounds. At #23 there are several players likely to still be available that would be good fits for NE, so I could see BB trading down 4-6 spots and grabbing an extra pick later in the draft. I think he is more likely to move down that up, but that is just because I think he will want to get at least one pick in the 4th or 5th round. Anyways, with 5 picks in the top 100, BB should be able to solidify the needs at OT, LB, EDGE and still be able to trade down and grab a QB or TE. This should be a great draft to watch as he will likely be active throughout. |
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 6, 2018 6:09:53 GMT -5
Matthews is a huge signing, perfect fit for this team and Tom Brady. Agreed. I love this signing. It will at the least increase the competition in camp at WR. I think he and Mitchell will have the edge heading into camp, as long as Mitchell is back to 100%. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 6, 2018 12:13:31 GMT -5
Yes to the Matthews signing!! He could be a very good pick up.
Just heard some analysts talk about Browns taking Barkley with the #1 and taking who is left at QB with #4. It is being discussed by the Browns. I guess if the top 3 or 4 QB's are all considered close to the same why not get the best player in the draft.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 6, 2018 12:38:39 GMT -5
Yes to the Matthews signing!! He could be a very good pick up. Just heard some analysts talk about Browns taking Barkley with the #1 and taking who is left at QB with #4. It is being discussed by the Browns. I guess if the top 3 or 4 QB's are all considered close to the same why not get the best player in the draft. I would hate it if I were a Browns fan and they couldn’t decide who’s the better QB from the top 3 on their board. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 6, 2018 13:07:27 GMT -5
Then again he could fall to the Broncos.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 6, 2018 13:12:55 GMT -5
Yes to the Matthews signing!! He could be a very good pick up. Just heard some analysts talk about Browns taking Barkley with the #1 and taking who is left at QB with #4. It is being discussed by the Browns. I guess if the top 3 or 4 QB's are all considered close to the same why not get the best player in the draft. I would hate it if I were a Browns fan and they couldn’t decide who’s the better QB from the top 3 on their board. Picking a QB in the draft appears to be much more difficult than one would think given the scouting and all. How many failures are their? Too many and it dooms teams to keep missing. The Browns have been the worst. When was the last time they had a good one? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Apr 6, 2018 14:02:45 GMT -5
I think the Browns going that route ended when the Jets traded up for a QB. Add in the Giants taking one or trading the pick for one.
The problem with drafting QBs is that they get overdrafted. Also teams don't develop them anymore, just throw them out there. You have 3 very good QBs the Browns can draft in Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen. Thing is these guys aren't Mannings or even Ryan type QBs. I don't get Josh Allen love. I can't remember another QB like him that did well in the NFL. Thing is teams are looking at recent picks that are doing well and drafting a QB is all the rage right now.
Still think Darnold is the guy, probably the safest of the 3. Mayfield was a system guy, is short,can he play in a pro style offense? Rosen has all the talent, but I hate hearing things like you need to keep him focused on football. His former coach saying what he said is kinda crazy, it just doesn't happen. So much really comes down to football knowledge for a QB and we don't know that.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 6, 2018 16:47:33 GMT -5
Yes to the Matthews signing!! He could be a very good pick up. Just heard some analysts talk about Browns taking Barkley with the #1 and taking who is left at QB with #4. It is being discussed by the Browns. I guess if the top 3 or 4 QB's are all considered close to the same why not get the best player in the draft. I would hate it if I were a Browns fan. fixed Seriously though, whoever they pick will be a sure bust. They always are. |
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