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2018 Draft Signing Period
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 21, 2018 12:14:16 GMT -5
Have we given up on Boyd? He seems focused on going to college, but yeah, he's another guy with an outside shot. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 21, 2018 13:26:46 GMT -5
I saw Decker signed for $1.25 million.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 14:49:12 GMT -5
Has Poland said he won't sign or is that just a guess?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 21, 2018 16:36:53 GMT -5
The Red Sox signed UDFA RHP Kevin Biondic today. Looks like Biondic converted to pitching his senior year at Maryland.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 21, 2018 18:37:17 GMT -5
cool clip:
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Post by bosox on Jun 21, 2018 18:57:38 GMT -5
The Red Sox signed UDFA RHP Kevin Biondic today. Looks like Biondic converted to pitching his senior year at Maryland. It makes sense to convert a Biondic man into a pitcher. He may have the Wright stuff as he can throw a knuckleball. First link has a short video of the him throwing the knuckleball. Second link has a writeup about two-thirds of the way down the page. Knuckleball
Maryland Terrapin draft article |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 21, 2018 22:06:07 GMT -5
Thinking Feltman is going to be a major league shutdown reliever this season is really setting up for disappointment. I think he's got a chance to be good, maybe even very good. But if he was ready, doesn't it make sense to ask why all those contenders all passed on him at least twice? Proximity to the majors isn't necessarily going to be the top concern with a team's first-round pick. But, like, you think the Dodgers are passing on a clone of Craig Kimbrel, who is about to make like $80 million dollars, just sitting there with the 68th pick in the draft?
I know I'm a broken record, but people really, really, really love relievers who they haven't seen give up runs yet.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 21, 2018 23:55:03 GMT -5
It's a long way from Lowell to Boston, a lot further than those mileage markers show. The talk show stuff is just that, talk.
The stuff is there, and the confidence is nice to see, but there are miles to go and a gauntlet with hitters all along the way. Even if he dominates in the low minors, past experience will make the team very reluctant to put him on a rocket sled to the majors.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 22, 2018 1:45:35 GMT -5
Thinking Feltman is going to be a major league shutdown reliever this season is really setting up for disappointment. I think he's got a chance to be good, maybe even very good. But if he was ready, doesn't it make sense to ask why all those contenders all passed on him at least twice? Proximity to the majors isn't necessarily going to be the top concern with a team's first-round pick. But, like, you think the Dodgers are passing on a clone of Craig Kimbrel, who is about to make like $80 million dollars, just sitting there with the 68th pick in the draft? I know I'm a broken record, but people really, really, really love relievers who they haven't seen give up runs yet. I think Feltman makes a impact mid season next year. The Sox can't count on anything from him this year. It's just too soon. Let this kid build up some innings this year and go from there. You can't blow out this kid's arm too soon all because you have a need at the major league club. You'd just would have a tough time bringing him into back to back games, high leverage innings (even if he looked ready), and a full half season's workload too soon. At least I would hope the Sox seemed like they would have a tough time managing something like that in the major leagues with this kid. He probably pushes through the farm system pretty easily, but at least give him that chance first. Relievers need to learn the workload of being warmed up multiple times, pitching back to back days, building small pitch counts (even in one inning stints, because every outing isn't going to be pretty). They need this kid in the future with the uncertainty of Kimbrel especially. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 22, 2018 9:01:26 GMT -5
The Red Sox signed UDFA RHP Kevin Biondic today. Looks like Biondic converted to pitching his senior year at Maryland. It makes sense to convert a Biondic man into a pitcher. He may have the Wright stuff as he can throw a knuckleball. First link has a short video of the him throwing the knuckleball. Second link has a writeup about two-thirds of the way down the page. Knuckleball
Maryland Terrapin draft articleEveryone mentally prepare yourself for the number of Biondic Man references that Joel is going to be making in the Gameday Thread titles. Consider this fair warning. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 22, 2018 13:01:23 GMT -5
Surprised by that one.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2018 13:05:22 GMT -5
Whoa. OK, so they've got $322,265 left for bonuses after the first 11 rounds, and it's entirely possible that a Howlett or someone got a small piece of that.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 22, 2018 13:08:49 GMT -5
Speaking of...
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 22, 2018 13:09:36 GMT -5
The team has signed all of their top picks, and yes that one came at a steeper price than initially projected, although Mike's last listing said under slot and that's what got delivered.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 22, 2018 13:10:27 GMT -5
Whoa. OK, so they've got $322,265 left for bonuses after the first 11 rounds, and it's entirely possible that a Howlett or someone got a small piece of that. You nailed that one... |
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jun 22, 2018 13:22:53 GMT -5
Updated projections. Top Ten Rounds (entire amount counts towards bonus cap)Round, Overall Pick, Player, Projected Bonus1 Triston Casas $2,552,800 (signed for slot)
2 Nick Decker $1,250,000 (reportedly close to signing for $1.25M)
3 Durbin Feltman $559,600 (signed for slot)
4 Kole Cottam $375,000 (signed for $375,000)
5 Thad Ward $275,000 (signed for $275,000)
6 Devlin Granberg $40,000 (signed for $40,000)
7 Jarren Duran $189,900 (signed for slot)8 Elih Marrero $157,700 (signed for slot)9 Brian Brown $2,500 (signed for $2,500)
10 Grant Williams $2,500 (signed for $2,500)
After 10th round, above $125K (first $125,000 does not count towards bonus cap)11 Nick Northcutt $565,000 (signed for $565,000)12 Chase Shugart $200,000 ( was playing in College WS, eliminated on June 19) 21 Brandon Howlett $185,000 (signed for $185k)After 10th round, possible $125,000 or less signs (count $0 towards cap) 13 Dylan Hardy (signed, seemingly for $125,000 or less)
15 Andrew Politi (signed for $25,000)17 Lane Milligan (signed)
18 Eddie Jimenez (signed)19 Jonathan Ortega (signed for $85,000)
22 Yusniel Padron-Artiles (signed)
23 Ryan Fernandez (signed)24 Logan Browning (signed)25 Caleb Ramsey (signed for $125k)26 Korby Batesole (signed for $2,500027 Gregorio Reyes ( reportedly signed) 28 Kris Jackson (signed)
31 Connor Berry (signed)
32 Bramdon Perez (signed)Total spent towards cap using these projections: $5,979,900 Red Sox Cap: $5,723,300 Red Sox Cap +5%: (no draft pick penalty): $6,009,465 On the Bubble 16 Chris Machamer (unclear, playing in the Cape League) 20 Kason Howell ( on the fence, seems more likely to go to Auburn) 33 Adrian Torres ( seems very excited to sign, but not 100%) 34 Jared Poland ( likely headed to Louisville) 35 Jeremiah Boyd ( on the fence) 37 Davis Wendzel ( playing in the Cape League, likely headed back to Baylor) 39 Shane Selman ( Draft & Follow, which means likely returning to McNeese State) Not signing 14 Nick Lucky ( had a change of heart, will be headed to Coastal Carolina) 29 Mason Ronan ( re-committed to Pitt) 30 Ryan Bliss ( will not sign, re-committed to Auburn) 36 Jake Dukart ( re-committed to Oregon State, will not sign) 38 Art Joven ( will not sign, headed to Bakersfield) 40 Zach Watson ( headed back to LSU) |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2018 13:31:49 GMT -5
$262,265 remaining. So, $387,265 to one guy, average of $256,132 to two guys, etc. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 22, 2018 13:54:52 GMT -5
Great info as always! Gotta love guys like Howlett at $185,000. It just seems like a great deal.
Really want to see both Shugart and Machamer sign. That alone would cap a great draft. Nevermind maybe adding Howell or Poland also. By paying Marrero and Howlett at those numbers, you likely have to go over $125,000 to sign Shugart now.
Shugart $175,000
Machamer $300,000
Leaves you a little extra, but won't likely get you Howell or Poland, but thats ok. The class can use those two pitchers.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 22, 2018 14:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 22, 2018 14:19:04 GMT -5
Great info as always! Gotta love guys like Howlett at $185,000. It just seems like a great deal. Really want to see both Shugart and Machamer sign. That alone would cap a great draft. Nevermind maybe adding Howell or Poland also. By paying Marrero and Howlett at those numbers, you likely have to go over $125,000 to sign Shugart now. Shugart $175,000 Machamer $300,000 Leaves you a little extra, but won't likely get you Howell or Poland, but thats ok. The class can use those two pitchers. If they did this, they would be $120,435 over their bonus + 5%. They won't be doing that. If Shugart gets $200k, they'd have $150k to offer another round 10+ guy (with $4,565 left over). I doubt that gets you Machamer. Maybe Kason Howell? Maybe that's what Adrian Torres is looking for? Now, if Shugart is only getting $125k (I just cannot imagine this), then you have $225k to offer (or $100k over the $125k limit to be split between 2 guys). But still doubt this is enough to get Mochamer. He's just a Sophomore and if he goes back to school and pitches well, he has a good chance to get much more next year. |
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Post by ramireja on Jun 22, 2018 14:20:32 GMT -5
$262,265 remaining. So, $387,265 to one guy, average of $256,132 to two guys, etc. Are you including Howlett in this new total? I'm coming up with $5,905,000 spent, leaving $104,465 remaining under the $6,009,465 cap. Could still get Machamer at $225K or two guys near $175K. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 22, 2018 14:29:24 GMT -5
$262,265 remaining. So, $387,265 to one guy, average of $256,132 to two guys, etc. Are you including Howlett in this new total? I'm coming up with $5,905,000 spent, leaving $104,465 remaining under the $6,009,465 cap. Could still get Machamer at $225K or two guys near $175K. Shugart has said his farewells to Longhorn Nation, so he's coming. It will be really interesting to see what he gets. Obviously it's $125k at least, but opinions range from $125k to $200k around here. Just hard to believe he'd get less than Elih Marrero. They can only offer $225k to Machamer if Shugart is on board for $125k. That would be a serious coup. But I think it's highly unlikely it breaks like that. I hope I am wrong. 2 solid aarms like that would help the system. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2018 14:32:13 GMT -5
OK getting the math out there, because I'm probably screwing it up.
Casas: $2,552,800
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Decker: $1,250,000
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Feltman $559,600
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Cottam $375,000
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Ward $275,000
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Granberg $40,000
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Duran $189,800
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Marrero $157,700
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Brown & Williams $5,000
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Northcut $440,000 ($565,000-$125,000)
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Howlett $60,000 ($185,000-$125,000)
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$5,904,900
Slot + 5% = $6,009,465
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$5,904,900
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$104,565 left. So I was definitely off. I wasn't subtracting Marrero from the number we currently have on the Draft History page. So yeah, not much left to go around.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 22, 2018 14:32:23 GMT -5
Here's my excel spreadsheet where you can play with the numbers. There's not much left to play with though. I've shown $200k to Shugart with $29k and change remaining. 2018 Sox draft.xlsx (22.68 KB) |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 22, 2018 14:56:36 GMT -5
Great info as always! Gotta love guys like Howlett at $185,000. It just seems like a great deal. Really want to see both Shugart and Machamer sign. That alone would cap a great draft. Nevermind maybe adding Howell or Poland also. By paying Marrero and Howlett at those numbers, you likely have to go over $125,000 to sign Shugart now. Shugart $175,000 Machamer $300,000 Leaves you a little extra, but won't likely get you Howell or Poland, but thats ok. The class can use those two pitchers. If they did this, they would be $120,435 over their bonus + 5%. They won't be doing that. If Shugart gets $200k, they'd have $150k to offer another round 10+ guy (with $4,565 left over). I doubt that gets you Machamer. Maybe Kason Howell? Maybe that's what Adrian Torres is looking for? Now, if Shugart is only getting $125k (I just cannot imagine this), then you have $225k to offer (or $100k over the $125k limit to be split between 2 guys). But still doubt this is enough to get Mochamer. He's just a Sophomore and if he goes back to school and pitches well, he has a good chance to get much more next year. Well that sucks, Machamer was my third favorite arm after Feltman and Ronan. I certainly agree he was likely 300,000 if not a little more. Just went by Chris numbers. Darn, Marrero better be good if he might have cost us Machamer. That Marrero signing is a little bit of a head scratcher. Not only takes away money for Machamer, but could very well raise what Shugart gets. Oh well still not a bad class, just a little disappointed. I really wanted both Shugart and Machamer after Ronan decided to go to College. Would have helped balance out the class. |
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