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Post by Addam603 on Jun 22, 2018 15:29:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 17:40:55 GMT -5
What happens if they go over their cap +5%?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 22, 2018 17:45:02 GMT -5
What happens if they go over their cap +5%? You can find that information on our "Draft History" page. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 17:47:59 GMT -5
Oh, okay then.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 22, 2018 17:58:46 GMT -5
For a team working to rebuild a depleted farm system, it's the loss of draft choices that limits what they'll spend, not the money. This really approaches the status of a hard cap on that spending. There is no open marketplace for that talent given those allotments.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2018 20:20:00 GMT -5
For a team working to rebuild a depleted farm system, it's the loss of draft choices that limits what they'll spend, not the money. This really approaches the status of a hard cap on that spending. There is no open marketplace for that talent given those allotments. Yeah, nobody's ever gone over it. It's basically a hard cap. |
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Post by SALNotes on Jun 23, 2018 11:49:27 GMT -5
Great work fella's, I just read all 13 pages. I don't follow the amateurs at all but this seems like a solid haul. Particularly excited about Northcut. To pair with Casas and Decker. Potentially 3 impact bats is definitely a reason for optimism. Feldman sounds great too.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 23, 2018 19:28:38 GMT -5
Baby Huey in house.  |
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 24, 2018 5:49:01 GMT -5
Kid is going to have Popeye forearms. I laughed when I read your comment. Thats the first thing I had thought about seeing the picture. A couple that was sitting next to me on a flight last year's son was drafted very high by the Blue Jays. They were going back home after spending time with John Gibbons. Anyways, the first comment the guy made to me was saying that I had to have been a baseball player due to my forearms lol. He was right, but didnt know people had "baseball player" forearms haha. |
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 24, 2018 6:10:45 GMT -5
Thinking Feltman is going to be a major league shutdown reliever this season is really setting up for disappointment. I think he's got a chance to be good, maybe even very good. But if he was ready, doesn't it make sense to ask why all those contenders all passed on him at least twice? Proximity to the majors isn't necessarily going to be the top concern with a team's first-round pick. But, like, you think the Dodgers are passing on a clone of Craig Kimbrel, who is about to make like $80 million dollars, just sitting there with the 68th pick in the draft? I know I'm a broken record, but people really, really, really love relievers who they haven't seen give up runs yet. I think Feltman makes a impact mid season next year. The Sox can't count on anything from him this year. It's just too soon. Let this kid build up some innings this year and go from there. You can't blow out this kid's arm too soon all because you have a need at the major league club. You'd just would have a tough time bringing him into back to back games, high leverage innings (even if he looked ready), and a full half season's workload too soon. At least I would hope the Sox seemed like they would have a tough time managing something like that in the major leagues with this kid. He probably pushes through the farm system pretty easily, but at least give him that chance first. Relievers need to learn the workload of being warmed up multiple times, pitching back to back days, building small pitch counts (even in one inning stints, because every outing isn't going to be pretty). They need this kid in the future with the uncertainty of Kimbrel especially. Well said. I kind of cringe when I keep hearing people talk about rushing him to the majors. That and loving him before he steps foot on the minor league rubber. I think he will be good, but the sox definitely need to let him take his licks. I know hes not an exact comparison, but this all reminds me of Daniel Bard (electric stuff). The article the other day on Ty Buttrey explains this perfectly. He was basically getting by throwing his fastball 80% of the time. This is ok in the minors, but most likely will not translate to the majors. They look to get him to a 60/40 split of fastballs and secondary. So numbers (velocity, k/9, era etc.) can be deceiving when determining if a player is majors ready. Luckily, Feltman does have a plus fastball and plus secondary which helps, but im sure he was very FB reliant in college. Does any one have a way to find out what his pitch splits were for TCU? |
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Post by ramireja on Jun 24, 2018 23:51:34 GMT -5
So for what its worth, it looks like Machamer is seeing some longer looks at the Cape (went 4 innings in his first appearance and scheduled to make another start). Giving the Red Sox an opportunity to see him start makes more sense to me as to why he'd quickly jump to the Cape Cod league after being drafted with no indication of signing/not signing. They probably discussed with him a wait-and-see type approach to the signing period. It seems like the Sox could get another 2-3 looks at him before making a final offer, which at this point can max out around 225K. It will be interesting to see if they can get him signed.
A definite best case scenario (as in, don't hate me if this doesn't happen) for the rest of the signing period would be Shugart at 125K, Machamer at 200K (comparable to Brakeman), and Howell for something around 150K (comparable to Dearden).
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 25, 2018 17:22:18 GMT -5
So for what its worth, it looks like Machamer is seeing some longer looks at the Cape (went 4 innings in his first appearance and scheduled to make another start). Giving the Red Sox an opportunity to see him start makes more sense to me as to why he'd quickly jump to the Cape Cod league after being drafted with no indication of signing/not signing. They probably discussed with him a wait-and-see type approach to the signing period. It seems like the Sox could get another 2-3 looks at him before making a final offer, which at this point can max out around 225K. It will be interesting to see if they can get him signed. A definite best case scenario (as in, don't hate me if this doesn't happen) for the rest of the signing period would be Shugart at 125K, Machamer at 200K (comparable to Brakeman), and Howell for something around 150K (comparable to Dearden). You cut that one fine! That takes them $435 over the allotment+5%, so they back off a few dollars to tuck everyone in there. "Something around..." as you say! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 10:18:37 GMT -5
Potential Red Sox offers:
Shugart: 150k
Machamer: 175k
Howell: 125k
Poland: 150k
I don't see them going over 125k to get Howell, if he turns that down, let him go to college. If Poland turns down 150k, offer Machamer 200k, and if Machamer turns that down (in which case let him go to college) or has accepted 175k, offer Poland 175k. Let any leftovers go to Shugart, but at least 150k. Also, this is more of a hope than an expectation; as in I would be surprised if it doesn't happen, but also wouldn't be surprised if it does.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 27, 2018 7:28:43 GMT -5
The Red Sox signed UDFA Robbie Baker, a redshirt senior RHP from the University of Richmond.
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Post by lennsakata on Jun 27, 2018 8:54:46 GMT -5
The Red Sox signed UDFA Robbie Baker, a redshirt senior RHP from the University of Richmond. Looks like he had a little breakout his Sr year after being ineffective his first three years at Richmond...2.55 era/1.04 whip, good control and nearly a k per inning. Sounds...crafty. richmondspiders.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1576 |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2018 16:26:49 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 27, 2018 16:38:46 GMT -5
That was expected. I think I would preferred Howell to Howlett, but I am not an expert on thee guys nor will I pretend to be. I guess Howlett has more power, but also a lot of swing and miss. Hopefully the Sox can help with that.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2018 17:19:47 GMT -5
That was expected. I think I would preferred Howell to Howlett, but I am not an expert on thee guys nor will I pretend to be. I guess Howlett has more power, but also a lot of swing and miss. Hopefully the Sox can help with that. Well, if Howell would've signed for $185k he'd probably be in Ft. Myers right now. They had the room. Although I guess we don't know what Shugart or Reyes got. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 27, 2018 17:29:04 GMT -5
That was expected. I think I would preferred Howell to Howlett, but I am not an expert on thee guys nor will I pretend to be. I guess Howlett has more power, but also a lot of swing and miss. Hopefully the Sox can help with that. Well, if Howell would've signed for $185k he'd probably be in Ft. Myers right now. They had the room. Although I guess we don't know what Shugart or Reyes got. I agree 100% |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 28, 2018 15:50:03 GMT -5
MLB.com updated with bonuses for everyone, so we've updated as well: www.soxprospects.com/dh.htm Confirms nobody else, so far (plus Reyes, who they list as done at $20k) got over slot. I'm in the camp that thinks Shugart won't get over slot. Machamer's made 2 starts for Brewster: 8.0-7-3-1-3-5 Do we know where Selman's playing? I've found he was in the Northwoods League last year. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 28, 2018 15:57:36 GMT -5
MLB.com updated with bonuses for everyone, so we've updated as well: www.soxprospects.com/dh.htm Confirms nobody else, so far (plus Reyes, who they list as done at $20k) got over slot. I'm in the camp that thinks Shugart won't get over slot. Machamer's made 2 starts for Brewster: 8.0-7-3-1-3-5 Do we know where Selman's playing? I've found he was in the Northwoods League last year. So they could offer Machamer $229,565 if my math is correct. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 28, 2018 16:31:37 GMT -5
That's also what I have. Here's the printout from the spreadsheet I've been updating. The Allotment +/- +5% (upper right hand corner) shows what the team has left after the additions and subtractions from the last row (green or red). That total accounts for the 5% they're allowed to go over allotment without incurring draft choice penalties. That comes in at $104,565. So yes, if you add the $125,000 they could give Machamer without any additional vigorish, that comes to your total (click to expand). |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 1, 2018 20:52:13 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Jul 1, 2018 21:46:19 GMT -5
Awesome news! That could very well be the last signing of a pretty nice draft haul!
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Post by borisman on Jul 2, 2018 8:45:01 GMT -5
Awesome news! That could very well be the last signing of a pretty nice draft haul! That's the capper, for sure. Nice one though! I was hoping for either him or Shugart. That'll do, pig. That'll do. |
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