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2018 Patriots Season Thread
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 22, 2018 15:19:25 GMT -5
That’s big on a lot of levels - like now James White doesn’t have to be run into the ground It looked awful at first, but he at least was putting a little weight on it coming off the field. Maybe just an MCL? It's rumored to be a MCL sprain. He'll be out a month to a month and a half if that's the case. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 22, 2018 20:51:15 GMT -5
Just have to ask, you put two short TDs that came after turnovers on the D? Heck even that Brady interception gave them a short field and resulted in a TD. That was 21 points off of turnovers and short fields. The longest they went for a TD was 63 yards, the Patriots had 3 drives longer than that for TDs. Heck that last drive was a special teams mistake. Bill turned down a FG to pin them deep and Allen just kicks it into the end zone. Ball went from 38 to 25, instead of trying a 55 yard kick. Our special teams have been rather bad this year. Allen has a good leg, but sucks on short kicks. I agree with all of this except your last point on Allen. He messed up big yesterday, like it wasn’t even close, but pinning teams is what he’s good at. His punting yardage averages are not very good but he’s generally good at pinning teams inside the 10. Yea in the past, he has sucked this year though. The numbers back that up, he only has 5 punts inside the 20 all year, well below what he has done in the past. He was in the 23 to 31 a season the past four years. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 23, 2018 10:56:28 GMT -5
Patriots are exploring a deal for Patrick Peterson according to Peterson himself. Also, Belichick stopped talks once Peterson told the world. 😂
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Post by beasleyrockah on Oct 23, 2018 11:49:19 GMT -5
Patriots are exploring a deal for Patrick Peterson according to Peterson himself. Also, Belichick stopped talks once Peterson told the world. 😂 They'd have to make a move or two first to clear the cap space, and I'd put cornerback relatively low on the needs list, but he'd change the entire defense. It still feels unlikely, but Josh Gordon seemed unlikely too, so we can dream. The Gilmore/Peterson tandem would likely be the best CB pair in the Belichick era. The Gilmore signing really doesn't get enough credit, he's the rare big ticket FA at a glamour position that has been worth the money (even with his shaky start). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2018 8:05:46 GMT -5
Bentley has a torn biceps so he’s not returning this year.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 24, 2018 13:56:00 GMT -5
Patriots are using one of the two IR return spots on CB Duke Dawson. So the crazy slim chances at Peterson just got even smaller.
The fact no RB has been added has to me they are looking heavy at trading for one. Big names like Jordan Howard and Derrick Henry keep getting brought up by ESPN and others as available. They are basically run only type players though and clearly we have seemed to shift away from those guys. Just look at Barner over a bunch of run only RBs.
My under the radar pick is C. J. Prosise on the Seahawks. He's burried by all the depth they have, can run and catch. Was actually a slot receiver before moving to RB at Notre Dame. He's also a little bit bigger at 6'1" 225 and fits perfectly in our new outside running style, where we keep pulling the guards.
I've also seen Duke Johnson Jr. name a ton, but after they traded Hyde I don't think he's an option.
The highly unlikely, but worth a thought guy is David Johnson. He just doesn't seem to fit in the new offense and its almost like they don't know how to use him. They'd have to eat a ton of money and we'd be on the hook for like 6 million next year. So its a crazy long-shot, but interesting idea.
I'd also guess Eric Rowe and our two young corners might be available. You can't add another CB without getting rid of one can you?
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2018 14:28:13 GMT -5
Peterson withdrew his trade request today as well.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 26, 2018 9:44:10 GMT -5
RapSheet (and others) reporting that Obi Melifonwu is visiting the Pats today. No idea about his talent or health but, IF healthy, he would certainly bring athleticsm to a group that could definitely use it.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 26, 2018 17:54:38 GMT -5
I like Obi as a smaller LB type player. Only thing is he was always more of an athlete and lacked football instincts. Which isn't great for the Patriots. Yet he should be a great special teams player.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 27, 2018 10:59:06 GMT -5
PS eligible too. Not sure who you let go. Grissom, I suppose.
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Post by texs31 on Oct 27, 2018 10:59:25 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Michel practiced today
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 27, 2018 13:57:33 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Michel practiced today Where am I? What month is this?  |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 28, 2018 0:19:14 GMT -5
Great news, we still need another RB. Doesn't have to be a stud, but we need the depth.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 28, 2018 12:43:21 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 28, 2018 14:49:49 GMT -5
I’m sure they are working on a lot of things; takes two to tango so if you can’t get the defensive player you need then adding a top receiver isn’t a bad idea. Not trying to get one because you got Gordon is a bad idea. Right now, Gronk is banged up so if you lose Edelman or Gordon you’re screwed. Adding a guy who can make that not an issue AND make you even better now isn’t the worst thing in the world. |
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Post by texs31 on Oct 28, 2018 15:06:40 GMT -5
Kyed also suggested that this may also be due to future needs. Gordon, Hogan, Dorsett and Patterson (if you even want to include him) all FAs this offseason. Think Gordon may be restricted but could easily see BB choosing to NOT be the guy to commit to him long term.
Add in Edelmans injury history, Gronk being dinged up and Gordon 1 misstep away from another suspension and it makes sense.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 28, 2018 16:02:50 GMT -5
Kyed also suggested that this may also be due to future needs. Gordon, Hogan, Dorsett and Patterson (if you even want to include him) all FAs this offseason. Think Gordon may be restricted but could easily see BB choosing to NOT be the guy to commit to him long term. Add in Edelmans injury history, Gronk being dinged up and Gordon 1 misstep away from another suspension and it makes sense. Gordon is restricted and will likely be back on a one year deal next year if he stays in line. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 28, 2018 17:16:06 GMT -5
Then why not look at TE's if you worry about Gronk? I really hate the idea of trading high draft picks for aging WRs that are being paid a lot of money. Would I mind taking a flier on Thomas for a low cost? Nope, just not a high pick! Rather draft a young guy or two for next year. We really need that. Garcon is old and keeps on getting injured, but could be a better fit. Again for a low cost sure, not a high draft choice. Tate is likely the best fit, certainly wouldn't mind him, but again not for high draft choices. If your trading high choices it needs to be younger guys, unless the writer doesn't get what high draft picks are. For me those are first and second round picks, 3,4, 5th are mid and 6th and 7th are late rounders
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 28, 2018 17:57:10 GMT -5
Then why not look at TE's if you worry about Gronk? I really hate the idea of trading high draft picks for aging WRs that are being paid a lot of money. Would I mind taking a flier on Thomas for a low cost? Nope, just not a high pick! Rather draft a young guy or two for next year. We really need that. Garcon is old and keeps on getting injured, but could be a better fit. Again for a low cost sure, not a high draft choice. Tate is likely the best fit, certainly wouldn't mind him, but again not for high draft choices. If your trading high choices it needs to be younger guys, unless the writer doesn't get what high draft picks are. For me those are first and second round picks, 3,4, 5th are mid and 6th and 7th are late rounders Like I said, it takes 2 to tango. You can’t just decide what to trade for; another team needs to be willing. Also, I wouldn’t trade for Thomas for ANYTHING. The guy is a losing player. Yes, he was on the team who’s defense won the Super Bowl, but he’s still a loser. Drops everything. I can’t stand him. Belichick isn’t trading a first round pick for the guys named so don’t worry on that. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 28, 2018 18:01:41 GMT -5
Apparently Patriots are considering bringing back Collins
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 29, 2018 13:08:25 GMT -5
Then why not look at TE's if you worry about Gronk? I really hate the idea of trading high draft picks for aging WRs that are being paid a lot of money. Would I mind taking a flier on Thomas for a low cost? Nope, just not a high pick! Rather draft a young guy or two for next year. We really need that. Garcon is old and keeps on getting injured, but could be a better fit. Again for a low cost sure, not a high draft choice. Tate is likely the best fit, certainly wouldn't mind him, but again not for high draft choices. If your trading high choices it needs to be younger guys, unless the writer doesn't get what high draft picks are. For me those are first and second round picks, 3,4, 5th are mid and 6th and 7th are late rounders Like I said, it takes 2 to tango. You can’t just decide what to trade for; another team needs to be willing. Also, I wouldn’t trade for Thomas for ANYTHING. The guy is a losing player. Yes, he was on the team who’s defense won the Super Bowl, but he’s still a loser. Drops everything. I can’t stand him. Belichick isn’t trading a first round pick for the guys named so don’t worry on that. Color me confused, your takes two to tango crap, right after you act like there's nothing to worry about because they won't trade a high pick for those guys. Yet those are the guys available, which is why I was confused and worried. I shouldn't dream on something else, but that seems to be exactly what you are doing. I'm not a huge Thomas Fan, but he was drafted by McDaniels while he was the coach. So I'm a lot more worried than you are. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 29, 2018 13:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 29, 2018 13:13:47 GMT -5
Like I said, it takes 2 to tango. You can’t just decide what to trade for; another team needs to be willing. Also, I wouldn’t trade for Thomas for ANYTHING. The guy is a losing player. Yes, he was on the team who’s defense won the Super Bowl, but he’s still a loser. Drops everything. I can’t stand him. Belichick isn’t trading a first round pick for the guys named so don’t worry on that. Color me confused, your takes two to tango crap, right after you act like there's nothing to worry about because they won't trade a high pick for those guys. Yet those are the guys available, which is why I was confused and worried. I shouldn't dream on something else, but that seems to be exactly what you are doing. I'm not a huge Thomas Fan, but he was drafted by McDaniels while he was the coach. So I'm a lot more worried than you are. I don’t know how those are contradictory. I just don’t believe the reports. There’s a lot of crap reported that’s not true. When has Bill ever traded a high draft pick for a player? Cooks who was incredibly young, good and had 2 years left on his rookie deal. He’s not trading a first or second for a loser like Thomas or an old expensive guy like Garçon. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 29, 2018 13:14:44 GMT -5
Yes, he’s the type of guy, despite his age that Bill would deal something of value for. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 29, 2018 13:46:15 GMT -5
Color me confused, your takes two to tango crap, right after you act like there's nothing to worry about because they won't trade a high pick for those guys. Yet those are the guys available, which is why I was confused and worried. I shouldn't dream on something else, but that seems to be exactly what you are doing. I'm not a huge Thomas Fan, but he was drafted by McDaniels while he was the coach. So I'm a lot more worried than you are. I don’t know how those are contradictory. I just don’t believe the reports. There’s a lot of crap reported that’s not true. When has Bill ever traded a high draft pick for a player? Cooks who was incredibly young, good and had 2 years left on his rookie deal. He’s not trading a first or second for a loser like Thomas or an old expensive guy like Garçon. Mainly because you are just believing the parts you want too, getting another WR. While overlooking the rest of the report. Frankly I don't buy any of it, which is why I made my comments of being confused. It makes zero sense that the Patriots would be highly motivated to add another WR days away from the deadline. Yea it could make sense as a fallback option, but not our main goal. I'd bet they checked in on one player they really liked, were turned down and then we get this report. Yet if you got a report on every position they checked on you could likely do reports like this for almost every position. |
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