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Post by greatscottcooper on Nov 6, 2018 8:30:25 GMT -5
We played so great down the stretch last year without Kyrie or Hayward I just assumed this team would get off to a terrific start this year as well. Really, they played great all year. But they're 6-4 and not playing their best ball. I'm 100% confident this team is going to be rolling over everyone in the east by the time we're on the other end of the schedule.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 6, 2018 9:10:57 GMT -5
Tatum and Brown just need to play better. Ideally we wouldn't have to rely on them so much to play better along Kyrie, but Hayward is rusty and Horford... Man I don't even know what to say about Horford anymore. I couldn’t be less worried about Horford. He’ll be fine when the big games (aka playoffs) come around. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 6, 2018 10:30:14 GMT -5
Brad is either going to have to find a rotation that works better, or some of our talent may end up having to settle for less time - will be interesting to see how he ends up working with the perhaps-too-talented group of players. I trust that Stevens will find a way to get the best out of this team and that we will be there where we need to be at the end.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 6, 2018 15:29:36 GMT -5
I couldn’t be less worried about Horford. He’ll be fine when the big games (aka playoffs) come around. By fine you mean eventually have a big night or 2 and then do the small things in the other games. |
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Post by texs31 on Nov 6, 2018 16:32:43 GMT -5
Few will understand but Horford is the one guy we can't afford to lose for an extended period of time.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 6, 2018 18:04:38 GMT -5
I couldn’t be less worried about Horford. He’ll be fine when the big games (aka playoffs) come around. By fine you mean eventually have a big night or 2 and then do the small things in the other games. Yikes, what a misrepresentation of how good he was in the playoffs last year. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 7, 2018 7:05:37 GMT -5
Holy crap, did anyone watch Duke destroy Kentucky? I only saw the first half... Duke either just played their best game or they might just walk over people this year.
Barrett or Zion would look good in Green
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Post by jmei on Nov 7, 2018 11:45:29 GMT -5
Zion Williamson has the most impressive combination of size and athleticism that I think I've ever seen, and that sentence is a disservice to how skilled he is.
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 7, 2018 12:41:54 GMT -5
Zion Williamson has the most impressive combination of size and athleticism that I think I've ever seen, and that sentence is a disservice to how skilled he is. He probably will go in the top 4. We have potentially, Kings, Clippers and Grizzlies picks. Kings and Clippers are each 6-4 while Memphis is 5-4. Yup it's way early but to get a Williamson, we'll need to see those teams drop off considerably. (Clippers top 14 protected). |
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 7, 2018 13:56:26 GMT -5
Zion Williamson has the most impressive combination of size and athleticism that I think I've ever seen, and that sentence is a disservice to how skilled he is. It’s hard to say what’s most impressive. 285lbs and a 45 inch vertical is out of this world, but the fluidity of how he moves with the ball is insane. However, I was most impressed with his passing skills. Some of his feeds looked like a polished point guard. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 7, 2018 14:52:43 GMT -5
www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draftIts crazy early and I don't expect this to stay the same, but right now we have picks 19, 21, 22, and 23. Barrett and Zion going 1 and 2 in the draft. Talk about a crap start, the Celtics own pick is too high. The Kings pick is crazy. While I was in a way hoping for a late lottery Griz pick, a pick in the 20s is like worst case scenario stuff. The only one I'm happy about is the Clippers pick. I'll take that wherever we can get it before it turns into two second rounders. The hope was two lottery picks and maybe two latter first rounders gave you the ammo to get whoever you wanted. The last thing this team needs is a bunch of mid round picks!
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Post by texs31 on Nov 7, 2018 15:17:02 GMT -5
In an admittedly, non-scientific exercise, I've been ranking each team on:
Pre-Season Win Projections - accounting for early flukes (ie do we already believe the reality is that far from expectations)
Current Record - Obvious
Basketball References Simple Rating System - accounting for point differential and strength of schedule
Avg Power Ranking across ESPN, CBS, NBA and Bleacher Report - Best proxy for "current adjusted expecations" though each builds there PR's in different ways who knows if it makes any sense to include this.
Then I average those rankings and rank those averages to get a "Combined Rank". I use that to create standings and draft order.
The idea is not to over-react to early records but still "track" where projected picks may land. I'm sure there are obvious flaws to this methodology but it's just for fun.
As of today, this results in:
11. via Sac
13. via Mem
22. via LAC
26. own
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 7, 2018 16:47:22 GMT -5
Shocking that he thinks the Clippers are for real that much more than the Grizz. The Clippers have great depth, but a bunch of guys that always get injured. The Grizz lack depth, yet are back to being a very good defensive team. I really like Jackson. He's raw and up and down, but wow he fits that team and has massive upside. If they still had Evans they could be sneaky good.
Kinda still feels horrible our pick wasn't really a worry, win on the Clippers pick. Yet the two biggest picks we have both being late lottery would be horrible.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 7, 2018 17:08:48 GMT -5
Shocking that he thinks the Clippers are for real that much more than the Grizz. The Clippers have great depth, but a bunch of guys that always get injured. The Grizz lack depth, yet are back to being a very good defensive team. I really like Jackson. He's raw and up and down, but wow he fits that team and has massive upside. If they still had Evans they could be sneaky good. Kinda still feels horrible our pick wasn't really a worry, win on the Clippers pick. Yet the two biggest picks we have both being late lottery would be horrible. The only truly horrible thing about the Kings pick would it being number 1. Everything else is a complete bonus for the Celtics. They took it away from the Sixers. I fully expect thag pick to be a top 8 pick. The Magic started 6-1 last year too. The Kings certainly look better than expected but they aren’t competing for a playoff spot. Danny is smart too, he will probably end up with Cam Reddish and Tre Jones slipping down draft boards because they are sharing a team with Zion and RJ. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 7, 2018 17:19:52 GMT -5
Holy crap, did anyone watch Duke destroy Kentucky? I only saw the first half... Duke either just played their best game or they might just walk over people this year. Barrett or Zion would look good in Green Long time Duke fan/Kentucky hater here. What I witnessed last night was not what I expected. Loved every single second of it..... |
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 7, 2018 18:20:44 GMT -5
Shocking that he thinks the Clippers are for real that much more than the Grizz. The Clippers have great depth, but a bunch of guys that always get injured. The Grizz lack depth, yet are back to being a very good defensive team. I really like Jackson. He's raw and up and down, but wow he fits that team and has massive upside. If they still had Evans they could be sneaky good. Kinda still feels horrible our pick wasn't really a worry, win on the Clippers pick. Yet the two biggest picks we have both being late lottery would be horrible. The only truly horrible thing about the Kings pick would it being number 1. Everything else is a complete bonus for the Celtics. They took it away from the Sixers. I fully expect thag pick to be a top 8 pick. The Magic started 6-1 last year too. The Kings certainly look better than expected but they aren’t competing for a playoff spot. Danny is smart too, he will probably end up with Cam Reddish and Tre Jones slipping down draft boards because they are sharing a team with Zion and RJ. All of which is to say that a Williamson is likely out of our picture (currently)....We've started below expectations and the teams where we have their 2019 1st round picks have so far outperformed our hopes. 4 picks mid to late 1st round probably does not translate to Williamson or his like. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 8, 2018 0:27:16 GMT -5
Shocking that he thinks the Clippers are for real that much more than the Grizz. The Clippers have great depth, but a bunch of guys that always get injured. The Grizz lack depth, yet are back to being a very good defensive team. I really like Jackson. He's raw and up and down, but wow he fits that team and has massive upside. If they still had Evans they could be sneaky good. Kinda still feels horrible our pick wasn't really a worry, win on the Clippers pick. Yet the two biggest picks we have both being late lottery would be horrible. The only truly horrible thing about the Kings pick would it being number 1. Everything else is a complete bonus for the Celtics. They took it away from the Sixers. I fully expect thag pick to be a top 8 pick. The Magic started 6-1 last year too. The Kings certainly look better than expected but they aren’t competing for a playoff spot. Danny is smart too, he will probably end up with Cam Reddish and Tre Jones slipping down draft boards because they are sharing a team with Zion and RJ. With all these picks and trade options, you could use say Brown and two or 3 first round picks to move up into the top 3 of the draft board potentially too. That would be awesome. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 8, 2018 12:16:35 GMT -5
Zion Williamson has the most impressive combination of size and athleticism that I think I've ever seen, and that sentence is a disservice to how skilled he is. He's a tank and how he moves shouldn't even be possible. Lebron might be the ultimate speed and power combo, but you can see how Lebron manages to be fast because his frame is just perfect. Zion is like a horror movie beast. He's going to be a PLAYER. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 8, 2018 17:26:31 GMT -5
The only truly horrible thing about the Kings pick would it being number 1. Everything else is a complete bonus for the Celtics. They took it away from the Sixers. I fully expect thag pick to be a top 8 pick. The Magic started 6-1 last year too. The Kings certainly look better than expected but they aren’t competing for a playoff spot. Danny is smart too, he will probably end up with Cam Reddish and Tre Jones slipping down draft boards because they are sharing a team with Zion and RJ. With all these picks and trade options, you could use say Brown and two or 3 first round picks to move up into the top 3 of the draft board potentially too. That would be awesome. I hate that you even are saying something like that after the way Brown played in the playoffs. He raised the bar for me, he just took over a bunch of games. Yet given his play this year it makes sense. We need to pick up the pace and get back to the run and gun offense we had in the playoffs. Everyone thought I was crazy the Rozier ran our offense better, but it seems rather clear watching the team this year that he did. With Irving its a much slower pace and much more of a halfcourt style of play. I'd think real hard about making Irving play SG a lot more and let Rozier and Smart run the team. |
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 8, 2018 21:23:00 GMT -5
Stevens is really working wonders this year.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 8, 2018 21:31:12 GMT -5
22-10 down to the 2-8 Phoenix Suns (and yes it is only the 1Q) but....Celts really in a funk at the moment.
4 minutes left in the first half
Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Horford 0 for 13, zero points....Kyrie at a -22. 48-27
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 8, 2018 22:00:19 GMT -5
You cannot overstate how bad of a job Stevens has done so far this year, but it doesn’t help that this team lacks any semblance of a killer instinct.
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Post by Don Caballero on Nov 8, 2018 22:22:49 GMT -5
Yeah, down 20 at the half against the Suns. If they lose tonight, it has to be the absolute lowest point of Stevens tenure right?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 8, 2018 23:29:58 GMT -5
And of course they come back to tie it on a Morris 3 as time runs out - OT. Would be nice if they showed up ready to play in the 1st quarter. But - showing grit tonight
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 9, 2018 2:52:36 GMT -5
Kyrie with his best game of the season. Clutch shooting by Morris. Just need some wins at this point to keep pace up with the conference.
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