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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 28, 2019 12:26:34 GMT -5
From Ainge's interview today, and Brad's recent interviews, it is clear that the team is in a weird spot - there are no clear answers how to fix things. With the regular season rushing by, a total lack of consistency, a total consistent lack of buy in, absence of any team chemistry formation - the conclusion may be this is a cast of characters that simply can't gel together, despite the individual talent levels. They stopped playing Brad's offense, there's no system in place for long stretches. You have Kyrie, Smart, Morris and Horford all taking bad contested shots and then you have one possession that makes sense and then it's back to f*ckball. Say what you will about his job managing the personalities, but Luke Walton has done a much better job than Stevens at getting his young guys comfortable to perform. Ingram and Kuzma are at best as good as Tatum and Brown and yet they're scoring at a much higher level. That happens because guys are not looking to get others involved, it's all about my shot. There's no Rondo on this squad, there's no system either. There's nothing, there's an underachieving soft team with weak leadership. I guess I'm saying that if Morris starts until the season is over then Brad deserves to be fired. It's that simple. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 28, 2019 12:35:45 GMT -5
How about some guys like Irving, Hayward, and Horford get Jordan to demand his release and sign with us! He's helping the Knicks win games and they can't want that. Jordan, Horford, Tatum, Smart, and Irving as starters.
If not make Baynes a starter when he comes back. In the meantime try something different like insert Brown into the Starting lineup. Heck insert Hayward and have him run the offense. Try something, heck anything. Heck why not start Robert Williams? He's raw and likely not ready. But he can makes plays on D, rebound, and most importantly add energy. Hey Brad simply changing substitution patterns slightly isn't going to do crap! Make a bold move! Heck insert Semi for Morris. We need to add a guy that doesn't need to score or have the ball while also increasing our D.
I'd also bench any Veteran for one game that calls out a young guy. Teach them, give constructive criticism, don't keep calling them out. That is the coaches jop and is destroying our chemistry. Wouldn't hurt to for them to go out as a team and do something fun. Some type of team building crap. Go race some go-karts, heck go to a strip club whatever they like.
Good news is we are going to get a higher pick. 😁
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 28, 2019 12:58:29 GMT -5
What a frustrating team, I just don't get it. Beginning to think that Kyrie is the problem and that sucks!! Hope I'm wrong but this is getting old.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 28, 2019 18:22:44 GMT -5
From Ainge's interview today, and Brad's recent interviews, it is clear that the team is in a weird spot - there are no clear answers how to fix things. With the regular season rushing by, a total lack of consistency, a total consistent lack of buy in, absence of any team chemistry formation - the conclusion may be this is a cast of characters that simply can't gel together, despite the individual talent levels. They stopped playing Brad's offense, there's no system in place for long stretches. You have Kyrie, Smart, Morris and Horford all taking bad contested shots and then you have one possession that makes sense and then it's back to f*ckball. Say what you will about his job managing the personalities, but Luke Walton has done a much better job than Stevens at getting his young guys comfortable to perform. Ingram and Kuzma are at best as good as Tatum and Brown and yet they're scoring at a much higher level. That happens because guys are not looking to get others involved, it's all about my shot. There's no Rondo on this squad, there's no system either. There's nothing, there's an underachieving soft team with weak leadership. I guess I'm saying that if Morris starts until the season is over then Brad deserves to be fired. It's that simple. I actually think Luke Walton is a really good coach - he just has to deal with a narcissistic nitwit who’s willing to torpedo his team’s season to get his way. Small sample size and all, but the Warriors played cleaner basketball when he was coaching than at any point when Kerr has been at the helm. And I don’t think there’s a bigger Stevens critic on this board, but he most certainly should not be fired, lol. He’s an excellent coach whose had a really bad season. It can happen with coaches just like it does with players. |
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 28, 2019 18:29:28 GMT -5
Has anyone ever asked Stevens why he never changes anything when nothing is working or why he doesn't take a timeout in the middle of an 18 point run for the other team? I mean why even have a coach?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 28, 2019 19:09:05 GMT -5
From Ainge's interview today, and Brad's recent interviews, it is clear that the team is in a weird spot - there are no clear answers how to fix things. With the regular season rushing by, a total lack of consistency, a total consistent lack of buy in, absence of any team chemistry formation - the conclusion may be this is a cast of characters that simply can't gel together, despite the individual talent levels. They stopped playing Brad's offense, there's no system in place for long stretches. You have Kyrie, Smart, Morris and Horford all taking bad contested shots and then you have one possession that makes sense and then it's back to f*ckball. Say what you will about his job managing the personalities, but Luke Walton has done a much better job than Stevens at getting his young guys comfortable to perform. Ingram and Kuzma are at best as good as Tatum and Brown and yet they're scoring at a much higher level. That happens because guys are not looking to get others involved, it's all about my shot. There's no Rondo on this squad, there's no system either. There's nothing, there's an underachieving soft team with weak leadership. I guess I'm saying that if Morris starts until the season is over then Brad deserves to be fired. It's that simple. Just a few things Boston offensive rating is 10th, defensive rating is 5th, LA is 21st and 12th. Those LA guys play more minutes and take more shots while playing less D. Before they got Bullock only four guys on LA averaged over 10 points, Boston has six players and that doesn't include Smart or Rozier. So I wouldn't give Walton that much credit. Those young guys struggled so bad when LeBron went down. They put up points in a ton of losses. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 28, 2019 19:29:18 GMT -5
I actually think Luke Walton is a really good coach - he just has to deal with a narcissistic nitwit who’s willing to torpedo his team’s season to get his way. Small sample size and all, but the Warriors played cleaner basketball when he was coaching than at any point when Kerr has been at the helm. And I don’t think there’s a bigger Stevens critic on this board, but he most certainly should not be fired, lol. He’s an excellent coach whose had a really bad season. It can happen with coaches just like it does with players. Huge Walton fan here as well and I agree with you. He's been dealt a bad hand in LA, got a rebuilding team and then he got notorious coach killer Lebron James for his troubles. He hasn't shown much when it comes to defense, but I'm still high on him. And I don't want Brad to be fired either, but seriously he's downright negligent with his line-ups right now. I was exaggerating, it's just so frustrating to watch. Just a few things Boston offensive rating is 10th, defensive rating is 5th, LA is 21st and 12th. Those LA guys play more minutes and take more shots while playing less D. Before they got Bullock only four guys on LA averaged over 10 points, Boston has six players and that doesn't include Smart or Rozier. So I wouldn't give Walton that much credit. Those young guys struggled so bad when LeBron went down. They put up points in a ton of losses. Agree on them playing defense, but on offense they're putting up numbers and having the opportunity to do so. You watch Kuzma and he's playing loose, Tatum still feels too shy on offense. They go through stretches of really terrible offense and there's no reason for that with a roster that talented. The ball doesn't move around, but guys don't move either and I think it's because they're marginalized on offense. For one game I'd like to see Brown and Tatum putting up like over 15 shots each just to see what would happen. I'd also like to see a game where nobody takes 15 shots. A game where they play 7SOL offense, a game where they go full Grizzlies. The lack of experimentation on this team is so annoying, just go nuts a bit. Maybe it doesn't work, but maybe guys would have fun. It's so tense right now. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 1, 2019 13:16:40 GMT -5
Yea I've just never seen it with Walton. He had his Stevens moment when LeBron went down. Stevens got Tatum, Brown, and Rozier almost to the finals. The Lakers went from mid seed to like 10th in the West with LeBron out. That stretch inflated those young guys numbers but produced very few wins. Guys like Stevens and Rivers excell with those limited rosters when coaching means a lot more. Walton did nothing. The guy just can't win games. His teams have no identity every year. Maybe in time he can be ok, he just needs a lot more experience.
Stevens hasn't been great this year, but he's like 3 tiers above Walton in my book as a coach. Maybe I'm dead wrong but I feel Stevens hands are kinda tied because of Irving. They want him to resign, so they are trying to make him happy. He wants to play with Morris, so Morris starts and likely will the rest of the year. I don't like it one bit, but that seems to be what's going on. Plus I feel they have kid gloves on with Irving, when he needed to really lay down the law at ond point when he just kept calling out the young guys for like a month straight.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 1, 2019 16:29:35 GMT -5
Yea I've just never seen it with Walton. He had his Stevens moment when LeBron went down. Stevens got Tatum, Brown, and Rozier almost to the finals. The Lakers went from mid seed to like 10th in the West with LeBron out. That stretch inflated those young guys numbers but produced very few wins. Guys like Stevens and Rivers excell with those limited rosters when coaching means a lot more. Walton did nothing. The guy just can't win games. His teams have no identity every year. Maybe in time he can be ok, he just needs a lot more experience. But those guys were playing under pressure of a trade, it's been a sh*tshow in LA this season and I really don't pin that on Walton. It's all front office and Lebron. How can anyone still consider him as GOAT is truly besides me. |
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2019 18:03:58 GMT -5
I can't decide if I hate Kobe or LeBron more. Probably the rapist.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 1, 2019 20:46:45 GMT -5
I can't decide if I hate Kobe or LeBron more. Probably the rapist. Yeah, it's an easy choice but Lebron is an asshole nonetheless. He got lucky Pat Riley is a mafia man and had the balls of steel to tell him to go f*ck himself when he wanted to fire Spoelstra otherwise he'd be looking at 0 championships right now. |
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 1, 2019 21:19:05 GMT -5
Nice to see zero lineup adjustments by Bimbo Brad.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 1, 2019 21:33:35 GMT -5
Guess which player took the most shots thus far.
Yes.
It's Marcus Morris. This is ridiculous.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 1, 2019 21:57:48 GMT -5
I am not watching or listening - just took a look at the box score. Knock me over with a feather about them giving up 36 in the third quarter. Also, getting out to a nice first quarter lead then squandering it down to barely anything with 8 min left in the 4th quarter. They may very well win this game - they certainly should. Maybe it will be a step in the right direction. But - Brown, 2 for 8 with 7, Rozier 1 for 4 for 2, Hayward - yikes - 0 for 1, 2 points in 18 minutes, Tatum only 10 points - even if we win, there are some significant issues yet to be fixed.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 1, 2019 21:59:36 GMT -5
Well would you look at that, team is playing well with the young guys leading the charge. They haven't been impressive or anything, but it's better than Marcus Morris being a black hole.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 1, 2019 22:13:52 GMT -5
Good - looks like they decided to play out the game, turn it on and we have one to build on (boy, have I said that a lot this season)....let's see what happens next.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 15:48:47 GMT -5
Irving a turnover machine already.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 15:59:04 GMT -5
This is simply sad. There are players out there in Celtic uniforms, but it is in no way a team...horrible D, no clue on O
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 16:04:11 GMT -5
Baynes and Brown came to play at least
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 16:36:59 GMT -5
So many airballs, ugly misses... I think it is time to shut Hayward down, too. And this is a home game?!
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 3, 2019 17:23:21 GMT -5
If the Celtics don’t have a new starting lineup for next game, Stevens deserves a swift punch to the throat.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 17:27:20 GMT -5
If the Celtics don’t have a new starting lineup for next game, Stevens deserves a swift punch to the throat. Not sure what should be done at this point. Most of the team looks lost today. |
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 3, 2019 17:47:00 GMT -5
I feel like Tatum and Brown should be driving to the basket constantly. They go way too long without doing that and are so good at it.
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Post by wcp3 on Mar 3, 2019 17:48:09 GMT -5
If the Celtics don’t have a new starting lineup for next game, Stevens deserves a swift punch to the throat. Not sure what should be done at this point. Most of the team looks lost today. Removing Morris from the starting lineup for either Baynes or Brown is a good start. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on Mar 3, 2019 17:55:05 GMT -5
I feel like Tatum and Brown should be driving to the basket constantly. They go way too long without doing that and are so good at it. If they played in the 1st 3 quarters like they did in much if the 4th, that would help. They seem to rely on turning it on only when desperate. Frustrating team |
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